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RNC to NV GOP: pick delegates our way, or else! A direct threat to Ron Paul's people. Can they do that?

Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/05/03 20:38:41
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Last night the Republican National Committee sent an astounding letter to Michael McDonald, head of the Nevada Republican Party. (The Las Vegas Sun got a copy; see also this article from The Hill..)
John R. Philippe Jr, the general counsel, warned McDonald not to try to
“un-bind” the delegates from Mitt Romney or any of the others. Mitt
Romney won 50 percent of the primary vote, Newt Gingrich 21 percent, Ron Paul about 19 percent, and Rick Santorum 10 percent. Thus Romney has
14 delegates, Gingrich 6, Paul 5, and Santorum 3. Gingrich and Santorum
have each suspended their campaigns, so the RNC seems to believe that
Mitt Romney should get 20 delegates, and Paul 5. (The last 3 delegates
are superdelegates; they may vote for whom they please.)


Lawyer Philippe also demanded something new: that McDonald let “authorized representatives” of the candidates vet
any delegates pledged to vote for them. If not, said Philippe, a
candidate could “contest” the selection. Philippe then went further: if
the Nevada Republican Party does not do exactly as he says, then Convention officials might refuse to seat any delegates from Nevada.


CNAV reviewed the Rules of the Republican Party. Not one word
in them says, or implies, that State conventions may not appoint
delegates as they see fit, so long as the delegates know that they must
vote for particular candidates on the first ballot. The rules say that
State conventions shall appoint, assign, and bind delegates according to
State law and their own rules, so long as those rules do not conflict
with national rules. A delegate or alternate must be eligible to vote in
Republican primaries or take part in Republican caucuses. These rules
say nothing about candidates sending “authorized representatives” to vet delegates or alternates.


The RNC knows that Ron Paul’s supporters took over the Massachusetts
convention and appointed several delegates pledged to vote for Romney on
the first ballot but loyal to Ron Paul on second, third, or later
ballots. They want to avoid another Massachusetts in Nevada. The
question is: by what authority does “National” tell a State convention that they must let candidates vet State convention picks for delegates or alternates?


Philippe also clearly implied that he expects Mitt Romney to inherit
the delegates that Rick Santorum or Newt Gingrich would have gotten. But
Rick Santorum never endorsed Romney. Newt Gingrich made a long, rambling speech in which he might have endorsed Romney, but even that was not clear.


Developing…

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  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/05/03 20:41:13
    No
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +11
    Just who does John R. Philippe, Jr, general counsel to the RNC, think he is? "Grounds for contest may exist" if candidates do not personally vet all delegates and alternates? Where does that appear in the rules? (Follow the links; I have a link to the GOP rules. The key is Rule 15, "Selection of Delegates.")

    This has gone far enough.

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  • dreamhippy 2012/05/12 07:46:46
    No
    dreamhippy
  • the_old_coach 2012/05/06 20:44:45
    No
    the_old_coach
    +4
    Not legally.

    fly in the ointment
  • DJL 2012/05/06 06:29:02
    Yes
    DJL
    Any state that violates the rules and does not pick delegates in proportion to the pimary/caucus voting results will not have any delegates seated at the convention.
  • Windy DJL 2012/05/12 16:24:39
    Windy
    +1
    Which would be breaking the RNC's own rules.

    They'll do ANYTHING to prevent a restoration of Constitutional governance, perhaps even up to and including assassination of the only Constitutional candidate in the race. The members of the RNC who are doing these things should all be imprisoned in the cells now occupied by non-violent drug "offenders".
  • mindy.maucelli 2012/05/05 01:36:23
    No
    mindy.maucelli
    +5
    THEY CANNOT DO THAT, AND ALSO THE DELEGATES are not bound EITHER. THEY CAN VOTE, OR NOT VOTE ON THE FIRST ROUND (PER RNC RULES)
  • Arizona1950 2012/05/05 01:02:37
    Yes
    Arizona1950
    +3
    Because the DEM/GOP Party are allowing it as they push the Obamaromney down the throats of We the People ...

    I wrote a blog titled "Who has the final say - government or the people"

    69% said We the People do ... but yet look how many will vote for Romney because the government tells them to by making him the nomination for the Republican Party ... are there any Americans left in this country?

    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
  • Lady Whitewolf 2012/05/04 11:18:30
    Undecided
    Lady Whitewolf
    +2
    Dunno, because I myself an democrat, but why dont they tell this John R. Philippe guy to STFU?
  • 2sly 2012/05/04 09:32:57
    Undecided
    2sly
    I don't know if they can do this or not but the way I see it is Ron Paul is pretty much done. He should give it up as he won't make it for the nominee. He didn't come out of the gate running back at the beginning of all this.
  • Walt 2012/05/04 08:13:40
    Yes
    Walt
    +2
    Apparently, the RNC can do that. Will they get away with it? Will they be allowed to get away with it? I don't think so.

    There have been other documented occurrences of the RNC trying to manipulate or ignore established state systems in order to game delegate votes away from the RP camp.
  • Wolfman 2012/05/04 06:17:37
    Yes
    Wolfman
    The party, the convention and the rules belong to the Republican party. They can set the rules however they see fit. They don't even have to have a convention if they don't want to; they can just appoint a winner.
  • Walt Wolfman 2012/05/04 08:14:55
    Walt
    +3
    If the RNC does not maintain the facade of respecting the system as previously established, it will bite them hard on the ass.
  • Gary Walt 2012/05/04 14:38:33
    Gary
    +3
    If the RNC continues down this path they will hand the election to 0bama AGAIN.
  • Elleryqueen 2012/05/04 02:41:14
    Undecided
    Elleryqueen
    +3
    Don't think that legally they can, but not sure. Personally I think this lawyer is full of sheit. The people choose, not RNC lawyers. Starting to sound like the very thing that we are trying to vote out. Anyway, who the hell is he to be demanding anything.
  • Gary 2012/05/04 02:32:11
    No
    Gary
    +5
    One would say no but it appears they did. It's up to the people to physically take back our country, these lowlifes have no intentions of offering a fair election.
  • Lady Wh... Gary 2012/05/04 11:15:26
    Lady Whitewolf
    +2
    well said!

    It's supposed to be "We the PEOPLE" not "We the WEALTHY"
  • Balladeer-PWCM-POTL 2012/05/04 02:01:06
    Undecided
    Balladeer-PWCM-POTL
    +1
    Paulpukes can't make up the rules as they go
  • Temlako... Ballade... 2012/05/04 16:47:15
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +2
    Doesn't look as though they did this time. The rules didn't anticipate anyone sending a delegate who would dutifully cast the "bound" first-ballot vote and then vote differently in subsequent ballots. So if "national" wanted each State to let the candidates send in their favorite people and tell the State conventions, "Send these folks," they should have written that into the rules to begin with. They didn't. Now Lawyer Philippe is trying to do that after the fact.
  • EdVenture 2012/05/04 01:24:29
    Yes
    EdVenture
    +2
    And thats how they'll administer their agenda and ill-will. Reptiles for sure, that why they wouldn't give Paul the floor.
  • Tink123 2012/05/04 00:59:00
    Undecided
    Tink123
    +4
    They can try - we'll just see how effective it is for them.
  • WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB 2012/05/04 00:18:43
    No
    WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB
    +4
    Criminals can only do what we let them. I'm willing to spend my last dollars going down there and confronting these "oh so comfortable, three piece suit beeotoches" face to face.
  • CMackley ~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/05/03 23:17:29
    Yes
    CMackley ~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +3
    They can do it since they basicly make the rules but I doubt if any Paul supporters will listen. Pauls team has used guerilla tactics before and with some success. They swooped on Louisianna that way when no one was looking. They are looking now.
  • Seeker of Truth - War Wizard 2012/05/03 23:16:29
    No
    Seeker of Truth - War Wizard
    +5
    My understanding is that it is up to the state to decide how they are going to apportion their delegates...
  • Temlako... Seeker ... 2012/05/04 01:29:40
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +6
    And select them. That arrogant lawyer presumed to tell the Nevada Republican Party how to select delegates--that is, how to fill the slots with warm bodies.
  • mike j 2012/05/03 23:15:07
    No
    mike j
    +6
    This kind of top down National Washington D.C. we know best crap is why we are in this nationwide mess here in 2012. Wether you are Republican ,Democrat , Independant or Ron Paul supporter or someone else , this top down kicking states around should concern you and make you mad . If we are not going to have fair systems of Government elections , then why not just let Washington D.C. declare a dictator and be done with it and not even worry the Citizens with an election charade . Cone on RNC National Convention , trust We The People , or are you afraid of We The People?
  • Artist~PWCM~ 2012/05/03 23:06:56
    Undecided
    Artist~PWCM~
    +3
    I guess the RNC is willing to put up with obama for another four years...oh Lord!
  • Doc 2012/05/03 23:06:18
    No
    Doc
    +4
    This is a tactic of the left, when you don't like the outcome of the game, you try and change the rules retroactively.
  • Gary Doc 2012/05/04 14:45:32
    Gary
    +4
    Looks like it's a tactic of both sides now. I keep saying there is no difference between the two big box parties.
  • Doc Gary 2012/05/11 22:34:46
    Doc
    +2
    There is, in my mind, a slight difference.
    The left wants all the power, so the can take all the money
    The right wants all the money, so they can take all the power.
  • Red_Horse 2012/05/03 22:52:11
  • Gary Red_Horse 2012/05/04 14:47:00
    Gary
    +2
    Don't forget to turn over so your backside is pointing up. LOL!
  • Red_Horse Gary 2012/05/04 20:29:17
  • jacob crim 2012/05/03 22:50:48
    Undecided
    jacob crim
    +3
    I am not sure if its within the law or not but it seems pretty illegal to me, looks like the establishment is shaking :)
  • mk, Smartass Oracle 2012/05/03 22:47:55
  • Doc mk, Sma... 2012/05/03 23:07:52
    Doc
    +3
    stupid computer won't let me rave you
  • mk, Sma... Doc 2012/05/03 23:36:04
  • Doc mk, Sma... 2012/05/04 00:05:42
    Doc
    +2
    And now I can!
  • Temlako... Doc 2012/05/04 01:31:07
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +3
    You might want to visit the Site Errors forum in the Sodahead Support Group. Believe me, we know about the faulty rave script. And the repeat Happenings.
  • Doc Temlako... 2012/05/11 22:35:44
    Doc
    +1
    Does this mean kicking my computer doesn't work?

    lol?

    Thank you for the info.
  • mk, Sma... Doc 2012/05/04 14:10:30
  • Katfish 2012/05/03 22:20:51
    Undecided
    Katfish
    +2
    Sure they can but only defines them more as frauds

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