Judge Rules: Family’s $80 Million Gold Coin Collection Belongs to the Government. Right or wrong?
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Joan Langbord and her family, in 2003
opened a safety deposit box that belonged to Langbord’s father,
Philadelphia coin dealer Israel Switt, they found a valuable coin
collection. When they asked the Philadelphia Mint to authenticate the
collection, the coins were then seized without compensation and taken to
Fort Knox.
The 1933 Saint-Gaudens double
eagle is “one of the most sought-after rarities in history,” according
to Courthouse News. Originally valued at $20 each, one owned by King
Farouk of Egypt reportedly sold for as much as $7.5 million at a
Sotheby’s auction in 2002.
This gold is not stolen gold, or robbed
from a bank…. The government said “Hey our bank buddies are failing so
we need all the people who own gold to sell it to us at a % of what its
really worth”
This should be an eye opener for anyone
“Investing” in gold. This is not the first time the government has
stolen gold from its people in our nations history and it wont be the
last.
The federal government keeps pushing and
pushing by violating the Constitution, and by making up laws as they go
along. If there coins were stolen from the government, fine, but I
seriously doubt that’s the case.
The Langbords unsuccessfully
sued the government in 2011, alleging that the coins are rightfully
theirs, and now they have lost the appeal.Jacqueline Romero, assistant U.S. attorney
in Philadelphia, explained that the coins legally belonged to the
government after Franklin Delano Roosevelt ordered citizens to exchange
their gold for cash in an effort to keep the banks afloat during the
Great Depression.“Those coins were all in a vault and were supposed to be melted,” she asserted.
Apparently the government ‘meticulously’
tracked the paper-work, and I imagine they meticulously track it about
as well as they do veteran’s military records when they say a fire
destroyed a building that had your records in it.
When we are careening toward bankruptcy any
asset the Feds can lay there hands on is fair game! We are also in the
era of multimillion dollar fines. Just a little redistribution of
wealth! After all why should anyone have an 80 million dollar asset?
The family maintains that in
another seizure of the valuable coin, the government split the proceeds
with the original owner after it sold for $7.59 million in 2002, and
that the coins escaped the Mint legitimately through a “window of
opportunity” between March 15 and April 5, 1933, the Huffington Post
relates.However, U.S. District Judge Legrome Davis
Jr. wrote in his decision: “The Mint meticulously tracked the ‘33 Double
Eagles, and the records show that no such transaction occurred…What’s
more, this absence of a paper trail speaks to criminal intent. If
whoever took or exchanged the coins thought he was doing no wrong, we
would expect to see some sort of documentation reflecting the
transaction, especially considering how carefully and methodically the
Mint accounted for the ‘33 Double Eagles.”“Nobody witnessed the disappearance of the
10 coins, but the jury could – and did – properly infer criminal
intent,” Davis added.Barry Berke, the family’s attorney, concluded for ABCNews.com: “This is a case that raises many novel legal questions, including the limits on the government’s power to confiscate property.”
These government leaches could have gotten
taxes on the proceeds when these coins were sold .. but that isn’t
enough for them — they don’t want a cut of what you have … THEY WANT IT
ALL!
And it all started with an unconstitutional executive order by FDR that was never challenged.
The judge enforced an unconstitutional and
unjust law. We all know what the GOV will do with the money anyway–SPEND
IT! Anyone think they‘ll invest it somehow for America’s good or even
use it to help pay of some of the DEBT it has incurred?!?
Read More: http://resistance.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=260...
Top Opinion
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Boris Badinov 2012/09/09 08:54:03Wrong.



















Kinda makes me glad I don't have any gold in my teeth.
Let's look at it from a different angle:
In the military, if you are given a direct order to shoot civilians, does that make the "law" just? What if you disobey orders, anyway, to spare women and children? Does that make the law any more just because it was the law, and you disobeyed it, and are therefore "wrong?" Sounds pretty bassackwards to me.
Besides, the supposed "need" for the gold to be confiscated ended about 80 years ago. Does that give the Federal government the right to "re-confiscate" it again? I think not.
Your example of military orders is not relevant as none of these coins were in the public's hands to be demanded back by the government. Other gold coins, yes; not these.
Arguing the validity of the confiscations is an whole other discussion.
LOL...serious.
In any case, I get the feeling we're both trying to play raquetball with a curtain - nothing is getting lobbed back at us anymore and I think they quit the match.
Still no reason to throw around insults.
The fact is, I just get on here to have fun from time to time. I couldn't give half a flying crap about $8M coins, since none of them are in MY pocket...lol. Most of the things on here, I feel the same about, and it really isn't worth letting some sock or another get me all riled up over...essentially Nothing. If they choose to get all bent out of shape, that's their problem, but I don't have to :) It's all about controling your "child-impulses."
You have time enough to come here and make smarmy comments but not enough time to google up 1933 double eagle and read the first response. Literally took me 2 minutes to brush up on this stuff as I was only vaguely familiar with it.
Oh yeah...
"the US Numismatic somethingorother" (and I directly quote you).
How precise you are in your quest for knowledge.
The fact of the matter is, this really isn't important enough an issue for me to get excited about, or even care much at all about. I have too many other things going on. But apparently, for you, it is.
If you mean the "raquetball with a curtain" comment...if somoene stirs something up and then goes AWOL, then what else would you call it? Is it really even worth talking to dead air? That's not an insult...that's an attempt at good time management.
AWOL in this case is midnight. Funny that you can go through your laundry list of how busy you are but I go "AWOL". It was insulting.
Let me ask you this, if they passed a law legalizing bank robbery, would the government continue investigating past robberies, or would they prosecute admitted bank robbers?
See I think the problem is that people look at this story through today's eyes and try to offer other scenarios to justify their positions. The reality of the times was that gold coins were simply currency. The price of gold was pegged to specific amounts. For quite some time it was pegged at $20 per ounce and so $20 gold coins merely represented an ounce of gold in the form of legitimate, recognized currency. In 1933 FDR altered that pegged value to $35.00 per ounce. I think that was the reason those coins had to be melted down.
Please elaborate on your scenario. How does bank robberies equate to these coins? Do we really want to get into a discussion based upon a law that will never exist? I understand a need to back ones' position but this is really reaching.