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Is there really a difference between organic foods and regular foods? Other than the price?

lucythetooth 2012/07/01 01:06:22
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  • FeedFwd sglmom 2012/07/01 05:09:22
    FeedFwd
    +3
    Or grow some of your own!
  • sglmom FeedFwd 2012/07/01 05:11:49
    sglmom
    +4
    Ah .. yes, forgot to add ..
    grow your own victory garden!
  • Dana 2012/07/01 03:47:35
    Yes. The difference is...
    Dana
    +2
    it is a matter of eating poisons or not.
  • FeedFwd Dana 2012/07/01 05:11:02
    FeedFwd
    +2
    Some things that are poisonous in large doses are harmless in small doses. Chances are that if you wash your food well, you won't be poisoned by modern growing techniques.
  • Dana FeedFwd 2012/07/01 05:31:05
    Dana
    +1
    All adds up. We have more diseases like cancer than ever before. Auto immune diseases like lupus and type 1 diabetes. Multiple sclerosis and Alzheimer's are in epidemic proportions, and these are just a few.

    Toxins are everywhere, in the air, in our homes, and in our foods, and they are adversely affecting our health and our pets health too.

    Dogs and cats are getting cancer much more frequently, horses with cancers and toxin related health issues like insulin resistance and laminitis, and immune issues... on and on... we live in a toxic world. Trying to avoid as many toxins as possible, helps.

    Taking zeolite to remove heavy metals and toxins also helps. I have seen the results first hand, and every little bit helps.
  • FeedFwd Dana 2012/07/01 05:36:46
    FeedFwd
    +1
    No argument... but don't forget that we live longer thanks to modern medicine and many people live to adulthood that would have never survived birth or childhood thanks to modern medicine. I'm sure that explains some of the diseases we see today that used to be rare. Maybe modern medicine is to blame and now with Obamacare, we may see more medicine than we ever wanted. ;)
  • Dana FeedFwd 2012/07/01 05:44:06
  • FeedFwd Dana 2012/07/01 17:19:34
    FeedFwd
    +1
    I could care less about Obama, but the health care law known as Obamacare mis-motivates everybody from health care providers to health care consumers to manufacturers of health care products and yes, even health insurers.

    I sympathize with your child's health problems and your plight. The new laws have pluses and minuses, but overall is a negative for almost everybody. Without intending to sound insensitive or disrespectful, I doubt you would consider amputating an arm to cure a hangnail as appropriate. IMHO that is Obamacare. I would never try to discourage anybody from taking personal attention to their health and lifestyle habits. Many self-destructive behaviors have become commonplace because "somebody else" will pay to clean up the mess and modern medicine has created "cures" for many of the symptoms and problems associated with poor health choices. We wouldn't be having this conversation 50 or 100 years ago because health care was not as capable as it is today. So forgetting those born with chronic problems (many of whom may never have survived pregnancy or early childhood in days past), we should be focusing on discouraging the choices that lead to poor health and not on how to pay for reactive health care. If everybody paid more out of their pocket at the point of se...
    I could care less about Obama, but the health care law known as Obamacare mis-motivates everybody from health care providers to health care consumers to manufacturers of health care products and yes, even health insurers.

    I sympathize with your child's health problems and your plight. The new laws have pluses and minuses, but overall is a negative for almost everybody. Without intending to sound insensitive or disrespectful, I doubt you would consider amputating an arm to cure a hangnail as appropriate. IMHO that is Obamacare. I would never try to discourage anybody from taking personal attention to their health and lifestyle habits. Many self-destructive behaviors have become commonplace because "somebody else" will pay to clean up the mess and modern medicine has created "cures" for many of the symptoms and problems associated with poor health choices. We wouldn't be having this conversation 50 or 100 years ago because health care was not as capable as it is today. So forgetting those born with chronic problems (many of whom may never have survived pregnancy or early childhood in days past), we should be focusing on discouraging the choices that lead to poor health and not on how to pay for reactive health care. If everybody paid more out of their pocket at the point of service, for example, then consumers would be encouraged to make choices that avoided the need for a doctor;s visit and would be more likely to shop for the best deal for a health care provider. And doctors would need to compete for patients and spend a lot less processing insurance forms. Just an example.
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  • Dana FeedFwd 2012/07/01 18:34:21
  • FeedFwd Dana 2012/07/01 21:51:24
    FeedFwd
    +1
    I would argue that it doesn't allow more care, it requires more care. Or at least it requires you to pay for more care whether you use it or not. That is no way to motivate people to take care of themselves. Two of the leading causes of health problems are smoking and diet. Another leading cause is lack of moving. All of those are personal lifestyle decisions. If people really cared about their health, they would give up smoking, eat less and eat better, and exercise more. So consciously, people may not want to get ill, but they would rather sit on the couch watching TV and eating chips and take the chance of falling into poor health than move around and watch what they eat. Yes, there are exceptions. I have a colleague who is diabetic. He is in excellent shape and does triathalons and watches his diet very carefully. He isn't fat or even slightly overweight. And yet he has to take diabetes medication. It runs in his family and is obviously genetic. But the exceptions are relatively rare compared to the people who simply won't make the effort to take care of themselves. So just like the people who work hard, make good choices, and earn a decent living wonder why they must subsidize slugs who refuse to get a job or make good choices in life, people who work hard to be healthy w...

    I would argue that it doesn't allow more care, it requires more care. Or at least it requires you to pay for more care whether you use it or not. That is no way to motivate people to take care of themselves. Two of the leading causes of health problems are smoking and diet. Another leading cause is lack of moving. All of those are personal lifestyle decisions. If people really cared about their health, they would give up smoking, eat less and eat better, and exercise more. So consciously, people may not want to get ill, but they would rather sit on the couch watching TV and eating chips and take the chance of falling into poor health than move around and watch what they eat. Yes, there are exceptions. I have a colleague who is diabetic. He is in excellent shape and does triathalons and watches his diet very carefully. He isn't fat or even slightly overweight. And yet he has to take diabetes medication. It runs in his family and is obviously genetic. But the exceptions are relatively rare compared to the people who simply won't make the effort to take care of themselves. So just like the people who work hard, make good choices, and earn a decent living wonder why they must subsidize slugs who refuse to get a job or make good choices in life, people who work hard to be healthy wonder why they must subsidize those who refuse to take good care of themselves.

    And who is this "we" that will be hiring more people? It sounds a lot like the taxpayers who will see no additional benefit from the extra jobs.
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  • Dana FeedFwd 2012/07/02 01:25:48 (edited)
  • Dana FeedFwd 2012/07/02 01:27:21
    Dana
    +1
    On the jobs... just makes good sense. If a clinic or hospital has more patients than it can handle... they will hire more doctors, more nurses, etc... that means more jobs.
  • Ron in ... Dana 2012/07/01 14:53:07
    Ron in Oregon
    +1
    Tell us more about zeolite?
  • Dana Ron in ... 2012/07/01 16:08:29
    Dana
    +1
    It is basically a natural mineral that is mined in several parts of the world. It is actually quite a large industry, and different qualities of zeolite are used in many things, even water purification. But the stuff that is sold for people, is usually organic, free of any chemical, etc.., sometimes it is sold in liquid form, sometimes in the powder form.

    It attracts and traps heavy metals and toxins and removes them from your system. Liquid zeolite is a much smaller molecule, so will trap even smaller parts to remove from your body, down to about 1 micron in size. Powdered, can be any micron size, from 4-6 microns, up to looking more like sand particles (40+ microns in size). The smaller the micron, the more toxin removal benefits.

    The stuff that looks more like sand is helpful for bone growth and is sold for horses for that purpose. I have also seen the smallest powdered micron available for horses and dogs and is sold for detox benefits and I buy it for my horses at $60 for a 15 lb bag. I have seen lesser quality powder sold for people at $60 for 1 lb! So... it is worth shopping around for.

    The liquid is sold by many different companies, some are multi level marketing things if you like that kind of thing.. Waiora is one, and theirs was very expensive and only 1/2 ounce bo...
    It is basically a natural mineral that is mined in several parts of the world. It is actually quite a large industry, and different qualities of zeolite are used in many things, even water purification. But the stuff that is sold for people, is usually organic, free of any chemical, etc.., sometimes it is sold in liquid form, sometimes in the powder form.

    It attracts and traps heavy metals and toxins and removes them from your system. Liquid zeolite is a much smaller molecule, so will trap even smaller parts to remove from your body, down to about 1 micron in size. Powdered, can be any micron size, from 4-6 microns, up to looking more like sand particles (40+ microns in size). The smaller the micron, the more toxin removal benefits.

    The stuff that looks more like sand is helpful for bone growth and is sold for horses for that purpose. I have also seen the smallest powdered micron available for horses and dogs and is sold for detox benefits and I buy it for my horses at $60 for a 15 lb bag. I have seen lesser quality powder sold for people at $60 for 1 lb! So... it is worth shopping around for.

    The liquid is sold by many different companies, some are multi level marketing things if you like that kind of thing.. Waiora is one, and theirs was very expensive and only 1/2 ounce bottles I think. (I do not personally want to deal w/ the BS of the multi level schemes but to each their own.. ) but I have used the liquid also. But for me, it was still too pricey, but some very good ones I tried were called ZeSol and Zeolite Enhanced, I think.. not sure, but I believe they were about $45 for a 1 ounce bottle of drops. Instead now I just use the same powdered I buy for the critters and I feel a very positive difference for me, so I am good with that.
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  • FeedFwd Dana 2012/07/01 17:26:33
    FeedFwd
    +1
    I would avoid liquid zeolites. It is a ridiculous concept and some believe it is a scam. Zeolites have a surface charge that attracts certain toxins and a porous structure (like a sponge) to provide additional surface area. Some zeolites have a pore structure that has narrow holes leading to larger canyons and allow only certain molecules to pass for added selectivity. That is how water is removed from liquids and gases with larger molecular structure like removing water from ethanol after it has been distilled to 95% pure ethanol. Activated carbon has much the same effect. Basically, toxins in your digestive track are absorbed and expelled when you poop. (technical term)
  • Dana FeedFwd 2012/07/01 18:35:46
    Dana
    +2
    So why did you ask me?

    I myself said I use the powdered zeolite, works fine for me and is a hell of a lot less expensive.
  • FeedFwd Dana 2012/07/01 21:52:56
    FeedFwd
    +1
    Sorry, I thought I was answering Ron. Just adding more info to your response, which I thought was good.
  • SebaTheSociallyAwkwardPenguin 2012/07/01 03:45:16
    Yes. The difference is...
    SebaTheSociallyAwkwardPenguin
    +3
    the way they're grown
  • La 2012/07/01 03:37:08
    Yes. The difference is...
    La
    +2
    Less chemicals >.>
  • brewmaster411 2012/07/01 02:42:52
    Yes. The difference is...
    brewmaster411
    +4
    Fertilizers and pesticides. Wash the food, no problem. Organics tend to have lots of bugs and parasites on them.
  • La brewmas... 2012/07/01 03:37:37
    La
    +2
    Good sign ;) Bugs won't go on it if it's full of chemicals :)
  • FeedFwd brewmas... 2012/07/01 05:14:13
    FeedFwd
    +2
    I'm not sure where you are shopping. Many bugs in the fields, perhaps, and most of them beneficial. Few if any at the market, or at least no different that non-organic foods.
  • brittany 2012/07/01 02:36:46
    Yes. The difference is...
    brittany
    +3
    yeah, organic foods taste different and are healthier.
  • FeedFwd brittany 2012/07/01 05:16:40
    FeedFwd
    +3
    Usually that is more a characteristic of locally grown crops which can use more flavorful varieties and let them fully ripen in the field. Crops that are shipped cross country need to be chosen to survive storage and shipping and are usually picked early so they appear ripe at the grocery. Tomatoes are a classic example. They are worth growing your own, if you grow nothing else.
  • Dana FeedFwd 2012/07/01 05:37:36 (edited)
    Dana
    +2
    Try carrots and apples. Organic vs not... and taste them... HUGE difference. Organic carrots are very sweet, the others literally have a bitter taste to them. Apples... organic incredibly vibrant wonderful flavor, while the regular ones have less than half the taste.

    Meat is another biggie... all the growth hormones literally make us fat too. Try an organic steak vs the regular.... and you will never go back.

    Also, when it says "natural" on the package in the meat dept... that does not mean organic... only means the animal was not given drugs, hormones etc in the last 3 months of his life. (Pleas double check that timeline w/ your grocers meat dept... but 3 months is what I remember.)

    Organic meat is fed organic feed, never given hormones, antibiotics or other drugs to enhance growth. They are not covered in pesticides to keep flies off.. are on farms that generally use fly eliminating parasites, so that they do not have to cover the animal w/ chemicals.
  • FeedFwd Dana 2012/07/01 17:32:56
    FeedFwd
    +1
    I understand all of that. I still say that flavor is less about pesticides and more about varieties selected for flavor rather than for storage and shipping properties and organic growers tend to sell locally or at least grow in smaller quantities allowing the products to ripen more fully than commercial, large scale farming allows. I usually pick organic produce like apples where the skin is to be eaten, but less often for things like bananas where the skin is not eaten. How do you feel about wild caught vs farmed fish?
  • Dana FeedFwd 2012/07/01 18:41:56
    Dana
    +2
    On fish... I have no opinion at all... know nothing about it, never eat it. Just not into "fish food" :)

    On produce, i do not disagree with you at all. They say that fruits and veggies w/ skin you peel, is definitely safer than those you eat as is. Better to buy organic w/ apples, grapes, celery, potatoes, carrots, etc and ok for Avocados, bananas, onions, etc to not necessarily be organic.

    I can not afford to buy organic all the time, wish I could, just wish for better for my kids. But when I can, I do. For meats, we try and buy beef from local farmers who raise their own critters, and the animals are not fed or given any garbage. This is not organic in the USDA certified labeling, but is a hell of a lot better than what is in the store. Also, we are not keen on factory farming, the cruelty to the animals, just plain do not want to support it. So we stopped buying pork and bacon, etc... will wait to fill freezer when local guy whose pigs run the fields has some extra for us to buy.

    We are far from perfect, but we do the best we can.
  • FeedFwd Dana 2012/07/01 21:58:10
    FeedFwd
    +2
    Same here. I can definitely agree and respect that! Except that we are bacon fiends! There isn't enough bacon in the world for my family! ;)

    We also enjoy lamb and cabrito as well as chicken and turkey. I like duck and goose, but my wife does not, so I rarely have it. I don't hunt like I used to, so we don't get much small game. But I know quite a few folks who hunt more deer than they can eat, so we get some venison from them.
  • brittany FeedFwd 2012/07/02 01:13:58
  • the fuze 2012/07/01 01:47:50
    Other.
    the fuze
    +2
    I'm not entirely sure. Sometimes I think it's a ploy... other times, maybe. It does seem kind of over-priced.
  • overseanancy 2012/07/01 01:29:08
    Nope. That's just a ploy to get you to buy higher priced food.
    overseanancy
    +1
    Definitely true; the human body is made of chemicals so why should those be harmful?
    ( regular food).
  • La oversea... 2012/07/01 03:38:24
    La
    +3
    Cyanide is a chemical >.> Insecticide is a chemical >.> Detergent is a chemical >.> Swallow a bottle of detergent and then tell me all chemicals are good for the human body.
  • FeedFwd La 2012/07/01 05:25:08
    FeedFwd
    +2
    If you wash your fruits and vegetables, you won't get much if any chemicals that were sprayed on the crops. Organic growers are allowed to use some pretty nasty chemicals as well. The only difference is they are plant derived instead of synthetically produced in a chemical plant. Take a look at what exactly pyrethrins and rotenone are.
  • Ron in ... FeedFwd 2012/07/01 14:58:21
    Ron in Oregon
    +1
    As a kid I went out in the apple orchard and sprayed lead arsenate on the trees in the wintertime. No mask either.
  • FeedFwd Ron in ... 2012/07/01 17:41:32
    FeedFwd
    +2
    Are you suffering any health issues as a result? I siphoned gasoline through a hose and sucked the hose to get the siphon started when I was a kid. In Mexico kids try to earn a few pesos by putting on fire-breathing displays along the side of the road where they take a mouthful of gasoline and spray it out of their mouth and ignite it. Talk about ignorant! Many of us have done or will do stupid things out of ignorance or a lack of appreciation of just how long adulthood can be when you suffer self-inflicted health problems. :(
  • oversea... La 2012/07/05 06:05:05
    overseanancy
    +1
    Yes some are harmful. Still regular foods don't have a tendency of containing all of these chemicals in great amount
  • FeedFwd oversea... 2012/07/01 05:18:54
    FeedFwd
    +2
    Some chemicals are toxic, carcinogenic, mutagenic, etc at high enough exposures. Some people are more sensitive than others at lower exposures. Your liver has to process most of the toxins.
  • Wayne TH G 333 2012/07/01 01:20:09
    Yes. The difference is...
    Wayne TH G 333
    +3
    Organic foods are more likely to contain bugs due to the lack of pesticides used!

    bug in fruit
  • lucythe... Wayne T... 2012/07/01 01:22:12
    lucythetooth
    +4
    Hmmm. That could be a marketing ploy. "Our foods have added protein!" LOL
  • FeedFwd Wayne T... 2012/07/01 05:27:50
    FeedFwd
    +1
    People won't buy bug damaged food, no matter how organic it may be and stores and markets won't tolerate deliveries contaminated with bugs. So growers need to control bugs and they do. There may be a few more bugs, but there are organic techniques for dealing with them. I think you are a bit off base.

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