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Is the Middle East Peace Process a Lost Cause?

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The Middle East peace process, between Israel and Palestinians, may have just hit the wall, after leaked documents show the desperation of the Palestinian Authority and the intractableness of the Israelis.

The documents, released by the Arab news organization Al Jazeera, give an inside view of past negotiations, with the Palestinians willing to give much of the land that encompasses Jerusalem to the Israelis. Palestinians have long-publicly said East Jerusalem would be their capital when they became a state.

The now-public concessions and pliant attitude from the PA went far beyond any public announcements they made and appear to go way beyond demands their own people would agree to. The release of the documents will certainly hurt the now moderate, political party and could damage any type of peace offerings for the foreseeable future.

While the documents don't show Israel conducting its negotiations differently behind closed doors, it does show that Israel’s claim that the Palestinians were not willing to concede much was in fact exaggerated if not completely untrue. It also gives an upper hand to the rival Palestinian party Hamas, which opposes negotiation.

The U.S. seems distant in the negotiations, unwilling to confront Israel while pushing for the Palestinians to concede more. The Palestinian Authority has responded to the leak with predictable outrage.

"The report aired by Al-Jazeera is an intentional mixing between the many Israeli proposals and the Palestinian positions," President Mahmoud Abbas said, according to CNN.

"We do not have anything secret to hide," he added. "All our negotiations and meetings and every issue discussed were presented to Arab countries with documents."

An aide called the leak a "smear campaign."

"What happened is a manipulation of the documents and a misrepresentation of the facts and a true distortion, just for mockery and defiance," the aide said.

Read More: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/23/palest...

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  • Lanikai 2011/01/24 18:46:00
    Undecided
    Lanikai
    +9
    It is time to stop trying to force Israel to be peaceful with people who keep bombing them. It is time to stop blaming israel for the lack of peace, or stop trying to force Israel to give up more land in the hope of peace.


    israel has sacrificed land, and people in the name of peace. The other side has sacrificed nothuing, gained a lot and STILL bombs Israel. So, how about we let Israel create it's own peace?

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  • themadhare ~IJM 2011/02/14 04:41:07
    Yes
    themadhare ~IJM
    +1
    it has been for about 600 years
  • templer003 2011/01/27 03:10:31
    No, it's never a lost cause
    templer003
    +1
    When people learn to live together then there will be peace and not until then.
  • Isma'ila (God has heard)! 2011/01/26 01:07:38
    Yes
    Isma'ila (God has heard)!
    True peace will never happen.
  • Dagon 2011/01/25 19:12:59
  • Bex 2011/01/25 19:05:58
    No, it's never a lost cause
    Bex
    +1
    The Middle East will not be resolved with just one treaty or just one more round of talks. Quite frankly it is such a mess because the allies carved it up after WWII. We (mostly Europe) had no business changing boundaries that had been set for thousands of years. We should stay out now and refrain from choosing sides.

    When you rob an indigenous people of their heritage, they are bound to resent you. Before you say "It says so in the Bible, so it must be," think that the Palestinians had lived in Israel for 2,000 years after the Romans put the Jews out. The fact is that the Palestinians have become an indigenous people of that area who were unceremoniously put out of their homes. Israelis have made their country prosperous. I don't fault the Jewish people for wanting to move to Israel, but they could have bought land like everyone else.
  • observer Bex 2011/01/25 21:28:57
    observer
    +1
    "think that the Palestinians had lived in Israel for 2,000 years"

    There is no such thing as "Palestinians". The Arabs conquered the lands where today are Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Iraq, etc. from Byzantine Empire in 7th century AD, which is 1300 years ago.
  • pinkflo... Bex 2011/01/26 01:08:37
    pinkfloyd65
    For your education: Palestine is the name the Roman Empire called the Land of Israel. At the time the Romans (and the Greeks) called that land, Palestine, the only inhabitants there were JEWS (the nomadic Arab bedouin tribes were pagans living in the Arabian Peninsula). Therefore, if you already mention "Palestinians", the Jews are the true "Palestinians".
  • Gary 2011/01/25 19:04:47
    Yes
    Gary
    Let them work it out.
    It's time to cut the apron strings to Israel anyway.
  • juice 2011/01/25 18:56:22
    Undecided
    juice
    I don't trust the Palestinians or the whole Middle East actually....I have people tell me that Israel is wrong and bad, killing young children, greedy and that they are bullies! They have dual citizenship (one for Israel and US) so many things what's true and what is not? I just wish god would take away all of the very bad people in this world and we could trust again and live in peace! Amen
  • morrisonist 2011/01/25 18:21:48
    Yes
    morrisonist
    Long live Armegeddon
  • patrick 2011/01/25 17:52:18
    Yes
    patrick
    +2
    No Arab has ever wanted to have total peace anywhere they have ever been. It's not in their makeup. Until Allah is worshiped by all peoples of the world, Arabs will be at war, even if it's on a low key effort. They have a goal and that goal alone is the driving force in everything they do. Never seen such a brainwashed group of people as are the Muslims of this world. They actually believe all the hogwash the Koran and the mullahs throw at them. What a joke. A dangerous joke, but a joke nonetheless.
  • MBSVirginia BN-2 2011/01/25 17:02:26
    No, it's never a lost cause
    MBSVirginia BN-2
    +1
    Yet another attempt by the palestinians to blow smoke up our proverbial a$$. Terrorists, whos' goals are to see the end of Israel and push extreme Islam on the world, is the only thing you can rely on from the PA. They terrorize their own people and keep them starving and needy. That is how they control their territory and keep the people under their thumbs. How can anyone believe terrorists?
  • PDenoli 2011/01/25 16:56:49
    Yes
    PDenoli
    Both sides speak of "peace", but are merely using it as an excuse to obtain a better strategic position for war. I'm disappointed in any politician that wastes our time with this nonsense.
  • pinkfloyd65 2011/01/25 16:51:52
    Undecided
    pinkfloyd65
    +1
    Time to understand that only the parties involved will reach the agreement with which they'll have to live forever. Untie Israel's hands and let it defend itself properly. That way, the Arabs will understand (once and for all) that the Jewish State is a reality with which they must live in peace, turn away from terrorism and hate and work together for a better Middle East.
  • bob 2011/01/25 16:33:05
    Yes
    bob
    Middle east peace is and has been a lost cause for ever since I could remember. The conflicts will last for generations to come.
  • mzemma 2011/01/25 16:30:54
    Yes
    mzemma
    Seems all we do is speed our wheels.. for years. So, that only makes me think Hillary is wasting tax dollars. Come on, most on this stuff is were theatrics for us anyway. Our government works for super big business like oil and auto, drug and banks/finance on Wall Street.. oh and the big M chemical seed company, funny chemical and seed used to be two totally different commodities - not any more. Greed and corruption runs the show from behind the scenes. The Fed owns by the very big money I mentioned prints money when they want. The horrendous Wall Street criminal activities that went on in 08 were a no lose situation for them.. First of all the government, bought by big money, lifted regulations so their wrongful ways would not be illegal and just gave them the green light to rip people off knowing they would makes lots of money and if they didn't tax payers would cover the bill. and Paulson gets a seat in high places to boot. See "The Inside Job" produced by Matt Damon. See "Iraq for Sale: War for Profiteering" see "Gassole and "Who Killed the Electric Car". Read "Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein
  • James 2011/01/25 16:25:20
    Yes
    James
    It was never our business to begin with. Let the people fight it out.
  • jacktown kid 2011/01/25 16:24:31
    No, it's never a lost cause
    jacktown kid
    Push forward towards peace in the Middle East
  • buzzwald juneberry 2011/01/25 16:20:14
    Yes
    buzzwald juneberry
    Heh, don't get me started.....
  • JustonTalley 2011/01/25 15:59:33
    No, it's never a lost cause
    JustonTalley
    To anwser the call of rage, preludes only ones own destruction; but if we forgive, may we also be forgiven, and respected.
  • JeffSnavely 2011/01/25 15:34:51
    Yes
    JeffSnavely
    Leave the region and support neither side.
  • Flowers 2011/01/25 15:28:34
    Yes
    Flowers
    It's always been a lost cause, and will always be a lost cause. There is no peace between people who have been fighting for centuries and can't compromise
  • MG-42 2011/01/25 14:19:16
    No, it's never a lost cause
    MG-42
    +3
    Jerusalem will never be given to the palestinians by Israel. And I don't blame them. It belongs to Israel. We can all argue, but that land belonged to Israel thousands of years ago. Palestinians would have a good life in Israel if they would quit listening to the terrorists.
  • JeffSna... MG-42 2011/01/25 15:39:59
    JeffSnavely
    Belongs? I'm not sure I agree with you.

    The country has existed for 63 years and has been fought over for millennium. Who it "belongs" to depends on your view of history.
  • MG-42 JeffSna... 2011/01/25 19:32:23
    MG-42
    History has shown that the Israelis were driven from their lands many times.
  • JeffSna... MG-42 2011/01/27 14:49:55
    JeffSnavely
    There you go with the "their land" argument again. Why is it automatically theirs and not any of the other groups who have occupied it? If you go back far enough, didn't "their god" steal it from the original inhabitants?

    I'm not alone when I say I'm just not interested in fighting this battle for them. There are similar areas of the world that we do not feel inclined to intervene in, so the moral argument goes out the window.
  • NataliaK 2011/01/25 14:12:54
    Undecided
    NataliaK
    It is not just about people and their differences, it is about religion as well,
    just talking and treats won't work for long term
  • Some Guy 2011/01/25 13:48:05
    Yes
    Some Guy
    +1
    God's chosen people did not obey his commands that's why their in this mess.
    Nothing we can do to fix that it's up to God.
    We need to stop supporting either side and fix our own mess here at home.
  • Artist 2011/01/25 13:42:45
    Yes
    Artist
    +3
    It always was since there is no such thing as palestinians.
  • tikiteek 2011/01/25 13:16:01
    Yes
    tikiteek
    +1
    We should have been minding our own business all along.
  • irish -liberty or death! 2011/01/25 13:01:33
    Yes
    irish -liberty or death!
    it never existed. it was all a facade!

    "We are left with a number of revelations that are not surprising or new. Israel is not interested in an equitable two state solution, preferring a one state in which the Palestinians are controlled without democratic recourse. The Palestinian Authority is an effective instrument of Israeli occupation which is not representative of Palestinians. Finally, the United States is a dishonest broker who is acting like Israel’s lawyer and main supplier of aid. Again nothing new, now we just have concrete proof. These documents do not represent the death of the two state solution, they show that it never really began."


    stop all aid to israel and force the closing of the world's biggest concentration camp!


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  • James R... irish -... 2011/01/25 15:33:22 (edited)
    James Rowntree
    +4
    the Arabs have only ONE aim... to destroy Israel.
    They are not interested in any peace that leaves ANY kind of Jewish state in existence.
    The Arabs don't want a two state solution... they want one state only = 'palestine' as an Arab only, Jew-free Islamic terrorist state bult on the ruins of a destroyed free and democratic Israel.
    In Gaza, the Arabs voted for Hamas,the Islamic terrorists who want genocide and war against Israel and the Jewish people. That is what the Arabs want... they will have to live (and die) with the consequences of their bad choice. Israel will survive no matter what. God bless Israel.
  • irish -... James R... 2011/01/25 15:39:30
    irish -liberty or death!
    wrong. stop pushing the israeli lies. israel began ethnic cleansing in 1948. the arabs have offered peace many times,israel refuses. they put a condition on the palestinians that they must recognize israel,another paltry excuse. palsetine has repeatedly said they will recognize israel at the 1967 borders. israel refuses ,they want all the land and have no intention of trying for peace. the terrorists are the israeli's who want a jews only ,racist ,apartheid state. were you against south african apartheid? then why accept it in palestine? the palsestinians have beed defending themselves from invaders for over 60 yrs, but simpleton americans who fund israel because the govt says so believe the lies of israel.
    israel is the worst terrorist state in the world and our tax dollars fund it.
    after all the nazi's were zionists and created the horrors of ww2. now they have moved to palestine. god?? so your god advocates murder of innocent people??
  • MBSVirg... irish -... 2011/01/25 16:36:51
    MBSVirginia BN-2
    +4
    You dare show pictures of the Holocaust to prove your skewed point of view!!! Are you serious?? Israel does not have death camps, they do not force the "palestinians" to starve in work camps and use them for experiments. They have bent over backwards to give them land and a place to live. Gaza is a thriving area with a government that is denying it's own people their basic human rights. Go figure, they are terrorists!
  • irish -... MBSVirg... 2011/01/26 12:59:44
    irish -liberty or death!
    all of gaza is a death camp! are you that delusional?? who is blocking gaza ?? israel . forcing how many millions to live in an enclosed area?? the pope even called it shameful and the worlds largest concentration camp. and no their rabbis are advocating gassing the palestinians!
    wow you are brainwashed!


    Merriam-Webster defines racism as "a belief that
    race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that
    racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."
    It was the basis of South African apartheid and Nazi "master race"
    superiority above others, especially Jews.

    Israel has no constitution. Basic Laws substitute, including
    statutes affirming exclusive rights for Jews. One is the right of return,
    granting them automatic citizenship. Goyim are denigrated and not wanted,
    especially Arabs. David Ben-Gurion once said:

    "This is not only a Jewish state, where the majority
    of the inhabitants are Jews, but a state for all Jews, wherever they are,
    and for every Jew who wants to be here....This right is inherent in being
    a Jew." It applies to no one else.
  • JeffSna... James R... 2011/01/27 14:51:41
    JeffSnavely
    +1
    So... the "arabs" are wrong for wanting the jews gone, but the jews are not wrong for wanting the arabs gone?

    h i p o c r i s y ?
  • MBSVirg... irish -... 2011/01/25 16:26:00
    MBSVirginia BN-2
    +3
    Have you ever been to Israel? The Arab Israelis are very happy there. They are free to do as they please, they own businesses, raise their families, enjoy their culture without fear of retribution. How do you believe Israel is a "concentration camp"? The Palestinians are squatters, they are ruled by a terrorist regime that does nothing for the people but force them to live in fear. The Israelis have been very magnanimous, giving up the land that has been thiers for thousands of years.
    The palestinian government cannot be believed or trusted, that has been the problem with the peace efforts.
  • irish -... MBSVirg... 2011/01/25 16:39:52
    irish -liberty or death!
    gaza is a concentration camp,even the pope said it. hello?? the palestinians are not squatters. they have lived there for thousands of years. the israeli's are squatters however.
    israel magnanimous????ROFLMAO!!!!!!!... they steal peoples land and homes . what world do you live in??
    israel is and always has been the problem with peace and everything else.
    http://www.thewe.cc/thewei/im... land homes world live israel peace httpwww thewe cctheweiim israelis destroy farm land land homes world live israel peace httpwww thewe cctheweiim israelis destroy farm land land homes world live israel peace httpwww thewe cctheweiim israelis tear  down palestiniand  homes
  • MBSVirg... irish -... 2011/01/25 17:07:28
    MBSVirginia BN-2
    +3
    So if the Pope says it's so, it must be...LOL!!! Unless you haven't heard, the ORIGINAL palestinians WERE the Jews!!! The old testament was around LONG before the Qu'ran and the references to the Israelis, at that time, were Palestinians and Israel, Palestine. So, who has been there thousands of years? The Israelis who, by the grace of God, have been promised the land where they have lived far longer than anyone!!
  • irish -... MBSVirg... 2011/01/25 17:12:34
    irish -liberty or death!
    no,the fact that even someone like him acknowledges the horror of palestine.
    hello,the original palestinians are the iraqis.
    oh geee book that plagiarized older more advanced cultures is your source?? the hebrews were nomads,you know ,NO LAND!
    the israelis are from eastern eurpoe ,look it up. they are converts to judaism. they are NOT FROM THE MIDDLE EAST! sheesh! just becasue they follow the religion of another group doesn't mean they are from there! no they were not promised anything except by the zionists who made an agreement with hitler when the jews refuse to leave germany!
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