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If devout Muslims are supposed to lie to spread Islam then how can they ever be trusted?

Tee Quake 2012/07/18 23:21:00
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They cannot ever be trusted, They hate the USA and infidels and would just as soon kill you as blow their nose according to a strict construction of tiquyya
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  • none 2012/07/18 23:23:20
    They cannot ever be trusted
    none
    +4
    I'd never trust them to put America first, it's always going to be their violent religion before anything else.

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  • Ross in Oz 2012/09/20 10:55:29
    They cannot ever be trusted
    Ross in Oz
    The hate non-muslims. Don't let them try to tell you otherwise.
  • kiwimac 2012/07/23 09:41:55
    None of the above
    kiwimac
    Taqiyya is a Shi'te doctrine rather than a Sunni one, it is to be used only in life or death situations.
  • Thomas 2012/07/20 08:48:29
    They cannot ever be trusted
    Thomas
    When they're supposed to lie, then an apologist, a devotee, or faithful within the Ummah would be a liar. If they weren't lying they wouldn't be a practicing Muslim.
  • kiwimac Thomas 2012/07/23 09:42:17
    kiwimac
    Rot!
  • GeorgeAMartini 2012/07/20 08:40:52
    They cannot ever be trusted
    GeorgeAMartini
    Which is sad, because I'm sure there must be some good ones, but given the commandment to spread Islam by any means, it makes it kind of difficult to trust them.
  • weirdchickalert 2012/07/20 05:45:07
    None of the above
    weirdchickalert
    I dont think that i should say anything ><
  • Larry weirdch... 2012/07/20 09:14:26
    Larry
    you're entitled
  • weirdch... Larry 2012/07/21 08:04:21
    weirdchickalert
    Oh okay, well uh......i have no idea! what to think of this ><
  • ronbo51 2012/07/19 23:50:12
    They cannot ever be trusted
    ronbo51
    +1
    never trust the sharp edge of a hidden sword!
    arab sword
  • BobbyOdd 2012/07/19 21:44:25
    They cannot ever be trusted
    BobbyOdd
    +1
    always have your gun ready.
  • 2sly 2012/07/19 09:17:29
    They cannot ever be trusted
    2sly
    +1
    I don't trust any of them. And to think we have them in our Government. And Obama turns a blind eye to the Muslim Brotherhood that are basicaly terrorists and is inviting them to the White House.
    NOBAMA 2012
  • kiwimac 2sly 2012/07/23 09:42:47
    kiwimac
    What a crock of foetid dingos kidneys!
  • Seiryuu 2012/07/19 05:40:34
    None of the above
    Seiryuu
    Because other major religions haven't ever done the same thing. Right.
  • tristarr 2012/07/19 05:04:25
    None of the above
    tristarr
    +1
    you can't say "muslims" as a whole,just like any other religion,they all have different feelings towards different things.i encounter muslims everyday,and most of them are perfectly delightful people,with families just trying to be.
  • doctorwhofan~Tatae~BN-4 2012/07/19 03:14:13
    Undecided
    doctorwhofan~Tatae~BN-4
    +1
    If devout Christians are supposed to spread Christianity how can they ever be trusted?
  • Thomas doctorw... 2012/07/20 08:50:11
    Thomas
    If you're so indoctrinated you're beyond stupid I trust you cannot be correct on accident.
  • Larry doctorw... 2012/07/20 09:17:30
    Larry
    lol that's funny, never know you might get someone to bite on that
  • Christopher Brady 2012/07/19 02:59:53
    Hold your horses, all the "moderate Muslims" the MSM yammers on about would l...
    Christopher Brady
    They can be trusted as much as any Christian or Jew. Both religions have ALSO lied to get followers. NO ONE is clean here.
  • Helmholtz 2012/07/19 02:32:27
    Hold your horses, all the "moderate Muslims" the MSM yammers on about would l...
    Helmholtz
    +1
    Even if what you think Islam is is what Islam actually is, I doubt very much that that's what every person who claims to be a Muslim practices. Look at how so many self described Christians act and believe.
  • tristarr Helmholtz 2012/07/19 05:07:03
    tristarr
    +2
    true!i am christian,i believe in god,jesus,the works,BUT i dont go to church,don't judge other's life styles and don't tip badly.
  • Tim Upham 2012/07/19 01:38:09
    Hold your horses, all the "moderate Muslims" the MSM yammers on about would l...
    Tim Upham
    I have dealt with Muslims overseas, and here in the United States, and none of them every tried to force me to convert to Islam, They never tried to kill me either. All of the participates who said "yes" have never even met a Muslim. I have met a lot of them, and none of them were ever dangerous to me. It shows how dangerous bigotry and prejudice really is. Remember when blacks were suppose to break into your house? And Jews controlled all of the wealth? Get away from the typecasting, it is just a form of provincialism. If people tell me "you are sick for being around Muslims!" I will say was Charlemagna sick for being around Muslims? "You the hell was she?" He got a pet elephant from them. WHITE CHRISTIAN AMERICA FOREVER! I wonder how many of the participates on this survey are black or Asian?
  • Seiryuu Tim Upham 2012/07/19 05:39:32
    Seiryuu
    Let's not forget anyone that's Chinese is a god-forsaken communist.
  • Tim Upham Seiryuu 2012/07/19 16:52:25
    Tim Upham
    But what about the Chinese living in the United States? Are they evil communist infiltrating American values? Within China itself, only their government is Communist, but their economy is anything but. When I was in China, the White Cloud Temple was very much well attended, and I saw a large number of Buddhist monks in the cities. So both Taoism and Buddhism are very much alive within China. Go to San Francisco, you can find a large number of Chinese Buddhist temples there.
  • Seiryuu Tim Upham 2012/07/19 16:58:29
    Seiryuu
    PROTIP: T'was sarcasm. I'm Chinese and I live up in North Mexico.
  • Tim Upham Seiryuu 2012/07/19 17:09:26
    Tim Upham
    Be proud of what you are. We all should be.
  • jcadla 2012/07/19 01:02:14
  • kiwimac jcadla 2012/07/23 09:43:57
    kiwimac
    Please provide proof in the form of verses from the Quran in their contexts.
  • jcadla kiwimac 2012/07/27 18:02:16
  • kiwimac jcadla 2012/07/28 03:34:56
    kiwimac
    Here is verse 51 of sura 5 in part of it's context:


    ...48. And to you We have revealed the Book with the truth confirming the Book that was revealed before it, and a guardian over it. Therefore, give judgment among them in accordance to what Allah has sent down and do not yield to their fancies from the truth that has come to you. We have ordained a law and a Path for each of you. Had Allah willed, He could have made you one nation but that He might try you by that which He has bestowed upon you. Race with one another in good works, to Allah you shall all return and He will declare to you what you were at variance.

    49. And judge among them in accordance to that which Allah has sent down and do not be led by their desires. Take heed lest they should turn you away from a part of that which Allah has sent to you. If they reject your judgment, know that Allah wants to scourge them for some of their sins. Many of the people are wrongdoers.

    50. Is it pagan laws that they wish to be judged by? Who is a better judge than Allah for a nation whose belief is firm?

    51. Believers, take neither Jews nor Nazarenes for your guides. They are guides of
    one another. Whosoever of you takes them for a guide shall become one of their number. Allah does not guide the wrongdoers.

    The whole sura deals with...

    &
    Here is verse 51 of sura 5 in part of it's context:


    ...48. And to you We have revealed the Book with the truth confirming the Book that was revealed before it, and a guardian over it. Therefore, give judgment among them in accordance to what Allah has sent down and do not yield to their fancies from the truth that has come to you. We have ordained a law and a Path for each of you. Had Allah willed, He could have made you one nation but that He might try you by that which He has bestowed upon you. Race with one another in good works, to Allah you shall all return and He will declare to you what you were at variance.

    49. And judge among them in accordance to that which Allah has sent down and do not be led by their desires. Take heed lest they should turn you away from a part of that which Allah has sent to you. If they reject your judgment, know that Allah wants to scourge them for some of their sins. Many of the people are wrongdoers.

    50. Is it pagan laws that they wish to be judged by? Who is a better judge than Allah for a nation whose belief is firm?

    51. Believers, take neither Jews nor Nazarenes for your guides. They are guides of
    one another. Whosoever of you takes them for a guide shall become one of their number. Allah does not guide the wrongdoers.

    The whole sura deals with relationships between various people and in the case of these verses those who were guided compared with the Muslims. These verses are simply saying, " this community is a new community, it is different from these others, do not mix the beliefs..." Just like the OT tells the Jews not to mix with the Canaanites or how the Christians separated from the Jews in the 2ndC CE.

    As for Muslim friends, I have friends in the muslim, baha'i & ahmaddiyah communities.
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  • ♥dreamer-leigh♥ 2012/07/19 00:57:03
    None of the above
    ♥dreamer-leigh♥
    +1
    Would not trust them as far as I could skip a rock across a pond..no way
  • sammanilla 2012/07/19 00:18:11
    They cannot ever be trusted
    sammanilla
    +1
    Learned from years of experience, even if you think you're friends, don't believe what they say, don't trust them, don't expect them to fulfill their promises.
  • Christian 2012/07/19 00:17:01
    They cannot ever be trusted
    Christian
    Religious fanatics are just that, fanatics! Don't ever turn your back on any of them, ever. Ever heard of Jim Jones?
  • Thomas Christian 2012/07/20 08:58:21
    Thomas
    +1
    Jim Jones was a Communist, Marxist, Atheist, and Leftist Liberal who was friends with Harvey Milk. Jim Jones helped get George Moscone elected in San Francisco. In return, the Mayor appointed Jones to the San Francisco Housing Authority. I've "heard" of Jim Jones. Apparently you haven't.
  • Christian Thomas 2012/07/20 17:11:12
    Christian
    The Jim Jones I know spiked cool aid with cyanide and killed almost a thousand people.
    I guess there are two, there may be a few thousand. The Jim Jones I'm talking about was a sick freak that murdered innocent people because he wanted to be God. I hope he burns in hell the bastard.
  • jcadla Christian 2012/07/21 03:14:34
  • Christian jcadla 2012/07/21 03:19:37
    Christian
    Thank You.
  • Larry 2012/07/18 23:51:38
    They cannot ever be trusted
    Larry
    +1
    never ever
  • tommy 2012/07/18 23:50:37
    None of the above
    tommy
    +1
    Getmmmm outttta hereeeee
  • ♥dreame... tommy 2012/07/19 00:57:44
    ♥dreamer-leigh♥
    Agree
  • Catch224u 2012/07/18 23:48:20
    They cannot ever be trusted
    Catch224u
    +1
    Of course you already knew that.

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