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High school Girl Showers with boys. Was her punishment fair

CXRX 2011/07/23 00:30:31
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A high school valedictorian, stripped of her honor by school officials
after a shower with several male students she insists was just "good clean fun", is taking the school to court for what she considers overzealous punishment.

Last
month, senior Leslie Shorb pulled all her clothes off and jumped into a
shower in the boy's locker room along with five naked male classmates.

She did it "for the heck of it, honestly," she told The Early Show Co-anchor Braynt Gumbel on Thursday.

"I didn't do it to prove a point or do anything like that," she said.

Powers
High School officials in southwestern Oregon didn't think the bare-all
coed shower stunt was funny, nor very becoming behavior of a
co-valedictorian representative of the school.

As punishment,
school officials suspended Shorb for 10 days and took away her privilege
of addressing her graduating class of 16 at the commencement ceremony.
She also was banned from after-school activities, the senior prom and
the senior trip to Mexico.

But the final insult, Shorb said, and
the reason the 18-year-old will take her argument to court, was when her
valedictorian standing was yanked.

"I thought I would be
given punishment, but like three days of in-school suspension. I had no
idea that it was going to be this severe,"
said Shorb. "I definitely wasn't expecting being stripped of my valedictorian status."

The
reason for the April 11 shower incident is a major point of contention
between Shorb and her co-valedictorian – who also happens to be her
cousin, Anna Shorb.

After Anna leaked the details of the
locker-room shower party to school officials, Shorb initially claimed
she did it because she wanted to show supervision was lacking at the
high school.

Anna contested her cousin's argument and Shorb since has said the nude encounter actually was a harmless prank.

But Shorb's shoulder-shrugging defense of the skin-baring affair has turned many in the community against her and her antics.

The Herald, a daily newspaper in nearby Everett, Ore., took an editorial stab on May 5 at the teen's decision to challenge her high school.

"One
might surmise the only lack of supervision in this young woman's life
is that of parental and self. Shorb's behavior epitomizes the negative
stereotype of teens today - that of self-indulgent, reckless youth with
the moral sense of shrubbery.

"It will be difficult for her to
earn people's respect after this, if that's even what she wants. Then
again, perhaps she'll follow in the footsteps of America's favorite
millionaire bride, Darva Conger, and prove her point all the way to Hugh
Hefner's mansion."


The school superintendent, who also is
the principal, would not comment, saying he is prohibited by law from
talking about student records or disciplinary actions.

Shorb and
the five boys, also punished by being banned from extracurricular
activities, claim there was no hank-panky in the shower. And since
Powers is a small town with about 600 residents and they've all known
each other since childhood, they said the clothes-less encounter is no
big deal.

In fact, Shorb says the sextet had skinny-dipped together in nearby lakes and streams when they were younger.

As part of her defense, the teen-ager's attorney contends the girl's locker room was without soap at the time so she "went down to borrow some soap" from the boy's shower.

David
Hans Schmidt said he will file a temporary restraining order in an
Oregon court against the school board to seek immediate re-instatement
of her title as co-valedictorian.

"Nowhere in the history of
jurisprudence within a school set have they gone to this extreme amount
of punishment that they've handed down in this situation,"
said
Schmidt, who also represented infamous ice skating Olympian Tonya
Harding and currently lists Paula Jones, President Clinton's accuser, as
a client.

He added, "It's a material right. It's not a
privilege as they're trying to portray it. This is a right that she won
on the merit of her grade point average."


Shorb, whose grade
point average hovers near a perfect 4.0, has received a scholarship to
attend Oregon State University and said she plans to enroll for this
fall.

Asked if the university has reconsidered accepting her as a student due to her recent notoriety, Shorb said, "They haven't sent me any denial or anything like that."
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  • T. James H 2013/02/07 06:52:25
  • JD 2013/01/16 06:56:36
  • The Aging Yankee Liberal Do... 2012/12/03 04:31:37
    no
    The Aging Yankee Liberal Douche
    +2
    i dont think the guys would exactly complain if she was pretty. and even if she wasnt, its not like she bullied someone or harmed anyone in any way.
  • GoDucks5 2012/12/03 04:22:37
    no
    GoDucks5
    +1
    Was she pretty?
  • simba.isaac 2012/12/03 03:25:15
    yes
    simba.isaac
    +1
    lover boy!!!
  • Dave The Canuck 2012/02/24 21:06:58 (edited)
    no
    Dave The Canuck
    +1
    To me, what Leslie did was maybe mildly inappropriate, but it was just a bit of innocent fun nonetheless. There was no sexual activity and her male friends did not have a problem with her showering with them. Still, what she did was inadvisable because it was against school rules and there were other boys who felt uncomfortable changing around her. I feel Leslie should have received a reprimand from the principal, with having to write a statement acknowledging the error of what she did. I do not feel, however, Leslie should have received any suspension and definitely should not have been stripped of her right to be valedictorian. If Leslie enjoys innocently skinnydipping and showering in a mixed setting, maybe she should join a nudist club, where people do that all the time.
  • Dr. Sliptinschit 2012/01/22 07:51:22
    yes
    Dr. Sliptinschit
    +2
    This is what happens when hippies have children!
  • Philo-Publius 2012/01/21 13:23:52
    no
    Philo-Publius
    +1
    I don't want to live in a world where high school girls aren't allowed to spontaneously undress and participate in simulated, slippery, sud-drenched group sex on school property.
    indian
    (If I were her principal, I MAY have mildly reprimanded her for not including other female pupils in the faux orgy, however. Students, by the time they leave high school, should at least know how to share.)
  • Dave Th... Philo-P... 2013/01/16 06:58:30
    Dave The Canuck
    +1
    They didn't have sex. They just showered; nothing more.
  • jgh57 2012/01/21 04:09:47
    yes
    jgh57
    +2
    If she was my daughter she would have other things to worry about like sitting down.
  • Pocahontas 2012/01/20 23:19:58
    Undecided
    Pocahontas
    +2
    There are rules. You follow the rules and don't do things "for the heck" of them at school.
  • Flowers 2012/01/20 20:17:06
    no
    Flowers
    +1
    Class of only 16? Damn, that is a tiny school!! I Laughed out loud when I read "the superintendent, who is also the principal"
  • Amasaman 2012/01/20 15:25:35
    no
    Amasaman
    +2
    Small town people are much closer in friendship and life than big city folks. When I was growing up, many families had group saunas. It was a Finnish tradition and way of life, and those traditions were carried over and honored here as well. Men, women, boys and girls, of all ages, all naked, all in the sauna. There was nothing sexual about it, just the traditional weekly sauna.
  • ♚Littlɘ Ǫuɘɘn~Phaet's Own 2012/01/20 15:02:55
    no
    ♚Littlɘ Ǫuɘɘn~Phaet's Own
    +5
    The punishment is over-kill.

    They couldn't have punished just any student who might have committed this act with the stripping of valedictorian honors so the punishment is automatically cruel and unusual. She represents only herself in being valedictorian, not the student body.
  • iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~ 2012/01/20 09:41:07
    yes
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +2
    I MEANT NO!

    Valedictorian is a status earned through one's work - it's not a granted privilege, and doesn't require anything other than a GPA to determine.
  • Gracie ~Gun Totin' Gracie~ 2012/01/20 07:20:13
    yes
    Gracie ~Gun Totin' Gracie~
    +2
    Morals are turning out to be a thing of the past... This is nasty and if a boy would have done this they would tar and feather him. She is nasty.
  • Dr. Sli... Gracie ... 2012/01/22 07:56:59
    Dr. Sliptinschit
    +2
    Very good point!
  • Gracie ... Dr. Sli... 2012/01/22 08:08:17
    Gracie ~Gun Totin' Gracie~
    She should be ashamed of herself....If I was a parent of one of the boys I would raise
    all kinds of haiiiiiiiiiil!
  • NatAlex23 2012/01/20 06:54:54
    yes
    NatAlex23
    +6
    Hit the wrong button. I meant to vote "NO"

    This is bogus. She earned the grades. Obviously she should be punished for what she did, but this isn't fair. The suspension I agree with. The after-school activity ban, I agree with. The senior trip, I can understand. But losing her valedictorian status is excessive. The valedictorian is the person with the best grades. Period. Not the person who had great grades but also had a clean record. Of course, it's nice to be a model student, but there is no requirement.
  • Dr. Sli... NatAlex23 2012/01/22 07:59:50
    Dr. Sliptinschit
    +1
    She's probably a liberal... it's not like she isn't going to end up on welfare and drugs anyway!
  • joshua Dr. Sli... 2012/12/20 07:29:22
    joshua
    +6
    i think that you shuald have sex in the shower
  • Artist~PWCM~ 2012/01/20 06:45:04
    Undecided
    Artist~PWCM~
    +1
    Perhaps a bit over the top but you have to admit that was pretty damn stupid! It may not be like cheating on your SATs but you pretty much guarantee that much desired University isn't going to like this.
  • NatAlex23 Artist~... 2012/01/20 06:58:12
    NatAlex23
    +5
    Please. The university we're talking about is a state school. Shenanigans of this sort are commonplace at state schools. They care about 2 things: money and grades.
  • Artist~... NatAlex23 2012/01/20 13:53:00
    Artist~PWCM~
    +1
    Guess she wasn't reaching high enough. But then how great can your grades be out of a class of 16? Valedictorian in name only, huh?
  • Pixie·Ÿ... Artist~... 2012/01/20 20:07:01
  • Artist~... Pixie·Ÿ... 2012/01/21 00:03:47
    Artist~PWCM~
    +2
    4.0 in a class of 16 is very different than in a class of 200. Academics, resources and yes, averaging against the rest of the class makes a big difference. I imagine the students in her high school got more one-on-one attention but the challenges might not have been there much less the competition in such a smaller school.
  • Melizmatic Artist~... 2012/01/20 20:12:59
    Melizmatic
    +3
    So... if one has a 3.5 GPA or above, but the graduating class size is very small, then all the time & work put into earning such high marks is somehow "invalidated?"

    That makes no sense to me at all.
  • Artist~... Melizmatic 2012/01/21 00:56:29
    Artist~PWCM~
    +1
    I never said it was invalided but see my comment above...
  • Melizmatic Artist~... 2012/01/21 02:27:07
    Melizmatic
    +2
    The highest GPA is still the highest GPA, even in a class of two.
  • Artist~... Melizmatic 2012/01/21 06:45:30
    Artist~PWCM~
    +1
    Yeah, but in some schools, the highest GPA is more equal than others.
  • Melizmatic Artist~... 2012/01/21 09:29:09
  • Cthulhu 2012/01/20 06:42:18
    no
    Cthulhu
    +2
    Seems pretty harmless.
  • Dr. Sli... Cthulhu 2012/01/22 08:03:25
    Dr. Sliptinschit
    +1
    She sounds like a liberal and liberals spread STD's

    I don't think spreading STD's is harmless!
  • XXrawwwrXX 2011/08/07 04:32:55
    no
    XXrawwwrXX
    +2
    hmmm, i'd wonder what'd they do if they found out a student was sleeping (just sleeping nothing else) in the same bed as another student everyday? lol
    she should have maybe gotten a 3 day ISS or OSS.
  • jsnsprincess 2011/08/04 08:30:44
    yes
    jsnsprincess
    +3
    I read the article and looked at this situation from a different perspective. What if the student that jumped into the showers was a male student and it was the female showers and there were 5 females showering at the time? If that were the situation the male would have been punished more severe, AND people would be outraged, he would have probably gotten charged with a criminal offense and if found guilty would have had to register as a sex offender.
    Without knowing exactly how long she was in the shower with these boys and their reaction to her showering with them I wonder if the punishment for the boys was a little harsh. They didn't do anything wrong, they were showering and SHE is the one that crossed the line. I think her punishment was fair and when imposing punishment I hope they took into consideration what the punishment would have been if in fact the gender roles had been reversed. Women want equal rights (myself included) then they should also be willing to accept equal rights when it comes to negative situations.
  • NatAlex23 jsnspri... 2012/01/20 06:48:35
    NatAlex23
    +3
    Even if this was switched around, the grades were earned.
  • hill. 2011/08/01 21:15:26
    no
    hill.
    +1
    she should only of had an school suspension and not be allowed to do after-school activities.
  • sweetgreatmom 2011/07/29 04:20:42
    yes
    sweetgreatmom
    +1
    She should never have done this.
  • Hukaatir 2011/07/27 12:26:54
    no
    Hukaatir
    +1
    Ridiculous

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