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Does the Koran Approve Killing non-Muslims? YES IT DOES



The ill-informed on Sodahead and elsewhere (and this includes the pro-Islamic propagandists) constantly repeat the untruth that the Koran [Qur’an] do not advocate killing the infidel or unbeliever.


YES, the Koran [Qur’an] DOES advocate murder, and here are the pertinent verses:


Qur'an: 9:88 "The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause."


Qur'an: 9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."


Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."


Qur'an: 9:29 "Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."


Qur'an: 8:39 "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."


Qur'an: 8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."


Ishaq: 325 "Muslims, fight in Allah's Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious."

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  • mr jiggs 2009/11/12 16:28:41
    mr jiggs
    +4
    Can't get any plainer than that !!!!!!!!!!!!!! They want to take over the world and they would kill us all that do not believe.

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  • John 2010/07/25 15:51:53
    John
    +2
    I am neither pro-Muslim or anti-Muslim, but many of these verses have been taken out of context. If you read the verses before and after Qur'an 9:5 for example, It is pretty clear that the pagans have broken their treaties with the Muslims and the Muslims are being instructed to retaliate against the pagans for that reason. It also states in verse four that the pagans who have acted peacefully with the Muslims are not to be attacked. It says in verse 6 that the Muslims must give asylum to any pagan that asks for it. I am not going to go into the rest of the verses, but at least some of them are also taken out of context.
  • IndyLinda John 2010/07/25 16:03:36 (edited)
    IndyLinda
    Dhimmitude. EDIT: Just checked -- you had to create a sock to post this, which means you were already blocked by me for Islamist spam.
  • boltfox20 IndyLinda 2013/04/27 18:44:03
    boltfox20
    Dude, this isn't "islamist spam" it's a post correcting errors. I'm not for muslims either (I'm an Atheist, as a matter of fact) but I can tell even without reading the surrounding verses that some of those listed were taken out of context. That's not a reason to block someone, that's a reason to look over your own post and make sure you haven't done exactly what they are claiming you did. If you are posting something inaccurate and claiming it to be the truth, don't you have an obligation to make sure you're right?

    I know I'd feel bad if I was putting out false information.
  • jackolantyrn356 2009/11/14 15:51:23
    jackolantyrn356
    +2
    Sounds likea troop of theives and robbers. I'm probably laying my life open to murder for saying this.
  • Alicia jackola... 2009/11/16 05:11:29
    Alicia
    +1
    Yep we're all on a list to get our heads chopped.
  • xphile 2009/11/13 05:17:13
    xphile
    +1
    I started a blog just the other day on this issue, check it out!!

    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
  • xphile 2009/11/13 05:16:03
    xphile
    +1
    Main Post

    Terrorism is an act of theater, and must acquire and audience. Free publicity is the best way for the terrorist groups to acquire their audience in a large scale. The best example of this is the shooting at FT. Hood last week. Even thought the attack on American soldiers was not a planned attack, orchestrated by any one group, the media’s broadcast and the opinion of much of the West shapes it as so. Major Nidal Malik Hasan’s backround and ties did not help in this spread of terror and even if the Major had no ties to Islamic extremists just his religion alone would have resulted in the same effect. In this scenario the actual terrorist groups did not lift a finger and reaped all the benefit of the publicity from the incident. As a nation in love with broad band media, Americans are feeding into the hands of the terrorist groups (Combs C. 2006).

    Terrorist groups can gain strategically with the use of publicity as well. Once the public is made aware of certain details regarding attacks, inadvertently the terrorists have succeeded in turning the public against its own government or national security and even first responders. In a nation where we all feel we know more about national security and world politics than everyone else, this is inevitable. The attacking g...









    Main Post

    Terrorism is an act of theater, and must acquire and audience. Free publicity is the best way for the terrorist groups to acquire their audience in a large scale. The best example of this is the shooting at FT. Hood last week. Even thought the attack on American soldiers was not a planned attack, orchestrated by any one group, the media’s broadcast and the opinion of much of the West shapes it as so. Major Nidal Malik Hasan’s backround and ties did not help in this spread of terror and even if the Major had no ties to Islamic extremists just his religion alone would have resulted in the same effect. In this scenario the actual terrorist groups did not lift a finger and reaped all the benefit of the publicity from the incident. As a nation in love with broad band media, Americans are feeding into the hands of the terrorist groups (Combs C. 2006).

    Terrorist groups can gain strategically with the use of publicity as well. Once the public is made aware of certain details regarding attacks, inadvertently the terrorists have succeeded in turning the public against its own government or national security and even first responders. In a nation where we all feel we know more about national security and world politics than everyone else, this is inevitable. The attacking group can also determine through the media how successful the attack was, and how they can improve on future attacks (Combs C. 2006).

    Terrorist groups understand that their cause and methods of obtaining their end goal are unfavorable by the majority of the rest of the world. It is important for them to seek some sort of favorable understanding of their cause from the rest of the world through empathy. This is a useful tactic for the groups in that they succeed in creating opposing views which creates turmoil among the publics they target. A classic example of this is after 9-11 many of the opposing views of persons who actually were victims or family members of victims blamed and still do blame the American government and or law enforcement agencies for the attacks. We are a much divided nation, and this will only help achieve their ultimate goal (Combs C. 2006).

    Legitimacy and identity are very important for obtaining support from other nations or individuals that may share the same end goal, or political and social beliefs. This is obtained through the acts (bombings, kidnapping, assassinations) themselves. The message that is sent must be clear and identify their purpose for all to hear, in able to gain more support and recruits. This is also obtained through the publicity (Combs C. 2006).

    One of the most major goals in the terrorist attacks themselves is what they refer to as “destabilizing the enemy”. To be completely honest, I was quite young and naive when 9-11 happened and my first thought was that I felt our government could not protect us. I thought the whole time we were untouchable. Instead of allowing that feeling to turn to fear and panic, which is their goal, I allowed it turn to thoughts of revenge and a possibility to help my nation secure itself against these radicals that seek to harm us. However, in that, they did succeed in the goal of creating a panic, and much of America still feels this way. The terrorist groups succeeded in turning a lot of citizens against its own foreign policy and national security policies (Combs C. 2006).

    Reference:

    Combs C. 2006. Terrorism in the Twenty-First Century. Boston, MA Pearson Custom Publishing.
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  • IndyLinda xphile 2009/11/15 04:31:42 (edited)
    IndyLinda
    +2
    Xphile, you really ought to blog these excerpts and title them "Terrorism is an act of theater"!!!
    Edit: 10,000 raves!!!!
  • xphile IndyLinda 2009/11/18 11:28:02
    xphile
    +1
    Thanks man, I will work on my blog naming. LOL
  • TruBluTopaz 2009/11/13 03:50:13
    TruBluTopaz
    +1
    Muslims have centuries of bad faith and treachery in their history. Some of their bloodiest battles were simply based on killing those who disagreed with who was the hereditary heir to Mohammed. They feel they have nothing to lose, and that they do not have to abide by promise, contracts or treaties made with infidels. They charge "the people of the Books" better known as Christians and Jews, a tax to worship when living in their country. They destroy the icons of other religions and have caused some of the bloodiest long term wars in human history. For all that the culture of the Middle East has given to the world in terms of literature, mathematics, science and history, the practice of traditional Islam has killed more humans in its name in a comparatively short time than other religions. What other religion can bully cartoonists, media and politicians to withold criticism based on just the idea that the though of criticism is an article of war? Islam is no more the religion of peace than Hitler's final solution was a solution to anything. They use religion as a tool to push their political agenda. And that agenda includes the minimizing of women and children to the status of objects that are owned rather than humans in their own right. While I know wonderful people who happ...
    Muslims have centuries of bad faith and treachery in their history. Some of their bloodiest battles were simply based on killing those who disagreed with who was the hereditary heir to Mohammed. They feel they have nothing to lose, and that they do not have to abide by promise, contracts or treaties made with infidels. They charge "the people of the Books" better known as Christians and Jews, a tax to worship when living in their country. They destroy the icons of other religions and have caused some of the bloodiest long term wars in human history. For all that the culture of the Middle East has given to the world in terms of literature, mathematics, science and history, the practice of traditional Islam has killed more humans in its name in a comparatively short time than other religions. What other religion can bully cartoonists, media and politicians to withold criticism based on just the idea that the though of criticism is an article of war? Islam is no more the religion of peace than Hitler's final solution was a solution to anything. They use religion as a tool to push their political agenda. And that agenda includes the minimizing of women and children to the status of objects that are owned rather than humans in their own right. While I know wonderful people who happen to be Muslim, this is not the religion they claim to practice. American Muslims are not similar to the creatures bred in the Middle East. But that also doesn't mean that they are immune to the lure of charismatic clerics who preach power, revolution and death as their creed and sharia law is their banner.
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  • IndyLinda TruBluT... 2009/11/13 04:22:38
    IndyLinda
    10,000 RAVES!
  • Alicia IndyLinda 2009/11/16 05:12:53
    Alicia
    +1
    You can just award Peace Prizes instead of raves.
  • philip ... TruBluT... 5 days ago
    philip paquet
    +3
    When Mohamed dictated the Koran in the 7th century he was composing and speaking to a vast audience of unbelievable number of religious sects.. The believers of the new religion clashed with many of their regional adversaries. It appears that even before Mohamed had completed his religious directive he and his followers were already under attack. The commands to fight and kill the opposition appears in the Koran well into the document which gives me the impression that these aggressive passages were dictated as an important tactic to save the religion. They were inserted by Mohamed before the Koran Canon was completed.

    Did the new new religion meet with unimaginable violent opposition? If so, that would explain the language in these passages. What I see, and I may be wrong, are detailed orders on how to win the war against the defending or attacking opposition.
  • BRUCE aka WAR GOAT 2009/11/12 18:34:27
    BRUCE aka WAR GOAT
    +2
    what kind of people would condone honor killings of their own family, that's all i need know about them, i don't need to read the koran.
  • IndyLinda BRUCE a... 2009/11/12 22:55:09 (edited)
    IndyLinda
    Yes; the quotes are for use when atheists and liberals call it the religion of peace, claiming it's so superior to Christianty or Judaism.
  • Alicia BRUCE a... 2009/11/16 05:15:02
    Alicia
    +1
    I've never understood that and never will. How a parent could harm their own child, it goes against the laws of nature animal parents will die protecting their young and these people kill their children because they feel the have caused dishonour.
  • ©TransAmTam~Metal Queen \m/ 2009/11/12 18:17:09
  • IndyLinda ©TransA... 2009/11/12 18:22:18
    IndyLinda
    +1
    I love you, Tam! You've made my day!
  • ©TransA... IndyLinda 2009/11/12 18:23:44
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