Does anyone know how to use Adobe Illustrator?

by DJL Posted 2011/04/30 09:55:49

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There was a Washington Times Radio story that says if you open the Obama birth certificate PDF in Adobe Illustrator that you can see different layers of the document showing the certificate used to fake Obama's.

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Artist 2011/04/30 10:13:29

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I don't use Illustrator, I use Corel Draw. But I do this sort of thing daily...well not forgeries but graphics so when I saw the document I wasn't surprised it was fake. Looked too new. No aging, tool marks, smudges...nothing to suggest it was half a century old. Pretty dumb to put the original (digital) document out the with all the tags, layers and selections sets any graphic program can detect. Should have turned it into a jpeg first. Or spilled some tea on it at least...really, really dumb.
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theunbubba 2011/05/03 14:12:33

What a load of hooey. I want you to take your own birth certificate and scan it into your computer. Convert it into a PDF. Then use illustrator to open the file. You will get the same thing. Adobe PDF separates text into a separate layer for clarity. It does not do it on command, it's automatic.

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Andrew 2011/05/02 19:07:56

No, sorry.

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jr 2011/05/01 13:45:48

The dog and pony show convinced me the BC was a fake. It also revealed Obama is not a natural born citizen

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dodol duren 2011/05/01 12:13:30

Well, I guess we can wait for someone who comes up with technical explanations.

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ruthannhausman 2011/05/01 04:37:09

No, not clever enough to use any of the neat things these computers can do. But if what they're saying is true, and knowing how many zillions of computer experts there are out there, why in the world would the man even consider using a forgery? Good grief, that's fodder for the naysayers for sure. Science is too far advanced for dumb criminals anymore.

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Jackie 2011/05/01 02:03:09

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No but of course it is fake. It says so right on it. it says it can be a abstract of whatever is on file. so a note from his grandmother announcing his birth for newspapers. Could have been turned into this document on april 25, 2011 when it was created. A real BC is a photocopy of the orginal document and has the seal of the state impressed on it. Like yours.

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Bob DiN 2011/05/01 00:50:02

I don't use it but friends who do say it is very possible it's a forgery.

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Patriot Unit 2011/05/01 00:37:34

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Who can afford it?

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ladyjane 2011/04/30 21:30:07

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What is this really all about? What's he hiding? It's going to come out - I just hope it's soon enough...

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Munster 2011/04/30 19:49:00

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I use Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop daily as I'm a Graphic Artist. I haven't seen the PDF but I have no doubt that if it is a fake it can be proven with any good photo editing software. Being an artist, we always work with several layers instead of one to prevent mistakes and sometimes to give different effects to different sections or add elements in different places.

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ray 2011/04/30 16:51:02

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Such an obvious fake, all attention focused on the BC. The question is what is happening behind the scenes while we are focused here?

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Cathy 2011/04/30 16:11:00

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No, I never used Adobe Illustrator.

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RichJ 2011/04/30 15:15:57 (edited)

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The fakery is so obvious that it has to be an attempt to keep this issue alive. It must be serving as some sort of distraction keeping us birther's actively engaged in something that he is sure will be fruitless. I am not convinced that he is born legitimately but I am convinced that in two plus years he could have done a near perfect job of faking a BC - heck I could have. He just needed a number that was close to the right sequence, and unused, or belonging to a person deceased. He must have the "good forgery" stashed somewhere else. This is an armature's fake and that is a concern.
All you experts - when something is scanned into a pdf document and made searchable - would that cause the layers? The background on that thing is so obvious compared to the BCs released by the twins.

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eNewsAl... to RichJ 2011/05/01 02:23:49

I am a novice, but I do not think it would cause the kind of layering they are talking about.

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Rick fr... to eNewsAl... 2011/05/01 02:29:14

I use another software and I can make layered documents. It is not difficult at all. Just follow the buttons in the software.

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Albannach 2011/04/30 12:47:37

I use it, when you scan a document with both text and graphics (handwritten signatures are recognised as a graphics) with an OCR software like ABBYY FineReader and most others, it structures the Adobe PDF document into multiple layers containing the different elements. e.g. tables, logos, signatures, borders, and text. Depending on the complexity of the document I've seen more than 12 layers needed to reconstruct a scanned image into a PDF document.

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Tau_Seti 2011/04/30 11:52:34 (edited)

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Fox News article explaining authenticity.

http://www.foxnews.com/politi...

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BadDog to Tau_Seti 2011/04/30 14:57:46

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WOW! even fox says it's legit! won't wonders never cease!

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Tau_Seti to BadDog 2011/04/30 15:01:44

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That was my thought as well.

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Artist to Tau_Seti 2011/04/30 16:25:29

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Sorry but scanners especially OCRs don't act that way. If the document were in a bound format like the image suggests then an OCR wouldn't work properly anyway. The file would be created in a 'Rich' format and quite literally photographed the image as is. The background would not be added automatically either.
It's still a fake...question is why bother?

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Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2011/04/30 11:34:27

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This is more than amateur time. Obama did this deliberately, just to get our goat, while he's busy destroying the country. Nothing and no one is going to call him to account for his fraud, until the next election. And we will win the election on his wrongheaded policies, favoritism, and Cloward-Piven agenda, not on this.

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BadDog to Temlako... 2011/04/30 14:52:43

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""we will win the election""
with who as the GOPer? trump?

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Rick fr... to BadDog 2011/05/01 02:32:51

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Too early to tell. Or, are you just trying to be funny?

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BadDog to Rick fr... 2011/05/01 12:57:50

not funny, but I don't see any worthwhile candidates. trump? palin? lol!

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Artist 2011/04/30 10:13:29

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I don't use Illustrator, I use Corel Draw. But I do this sort of thing daily...well not forgeries but graphics so when I saw the document I wasn't surprised it was fake. Looked too new. No aging, tool marks, smudges...nothing to suggest it was half a century old. Pretty dumb to put the original (digital) document out the with all the tags, layers and selections sets any graphic program can detect. Should have turned it into a jpeg first. Or spilled some tea on it at least...really, really dumb.

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RichJ to Artist 2011/04/30 15:34:13

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Artist - that is what I would have done after creating the fake. I sure he has people much more adept in forgery than I am. Adding that fake safety background was too much of a giveaway.

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Artist to RichJ 2011/04/30 16:19:20

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It was just so unnecessary. He's probably really screwed his reelection chances now, lol!

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RichJ to Artist 2011/05/01 00:43:10

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Hope so!

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eNewsAl... to Artist 2011/05/01 02:21:17

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That was the first thing I thought of. I am about the same age and have the same copy I have always had and it looks a hundred years old. If it is an original or even a recent copy of an original it wouldn't look that new.

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Artist to eNewsAl... 2011/05/01 04:55:32

I'm slightly older and I got a copy from my hospital as a replacement and it looked like hell!
No way is that the original!

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