Do you think math is the language of the universe? Why or why not?

Everything can b put into a algorythem.

It's one of them.

What else need be said? (Note to those who don't get that that question is rhetorical: It is rhetorical. If you don't know what that means, use a dictionary.)

EVERY SEA SHELL HAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LINES ON IT EVERY FLOWER A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF PETALS AND EACH HAS THEIR OWN SPECIFIC NUMBER PATTERN THAT GOES PERFECTLY TOGETHER.

Sadly I don't speak it... Damnit! I'm screwed when the aliens land!

I changed my mind as soon as I clicked.

If it were universal, we'd be able to use it to communicate with dolphins and whales. And, for that matter, dogs and horses and garden slugs and slime mold.

It seems like the most likely way to construct a bridge of communication with another sentient species (which dolphins, at least, probably are), but it's far from "universal".

I honestly don't know. I will read all your comments and learn.

I have no idea...it could be since it can be really deep but it's not for me as I ABHOR it totally and I'm terrible at it. History and English...a cinch! Math...forget it!

I think it is because almost everything in the universe can have an origin dealing with numbers.

I think that may be taking things a bit far.

Numbers are just a mental construct. They can be incredibly useful, but they're just imaginary tools for creating maps.

It's a huge mistake to confuse a map with the territory it describes.

Or were you saying something totally different and I just read it wrong?

No. I didn't really mean that literally, but I get what you're saying.

All comes back to the numbers

everything we do every day is some how related to math

I'm torn about that answer.

There are some obvious direct applications, like exchanging money.

And there are some more subtle ones. Driving a car involves a lot of physics, which uses the math as its language. So it is somehow related, but it's a pretty tenuous connection.

No matter what you are doing for a job or recreation, your subconscious is always calculating in mathematical ways. Atoms have a mathematic structure, planetary movement can be calculated, and the list goes on.

I think I mostly agree with you, but not quite the way you phrased your response.

Our subconscious solves a lot of problems that can also be described by complex mathematical equations (like, say, catching a ball). But it doesn't think in numbers. It's a much more intuitive and less precise sort of thing.

Atoms most definitely do not "have a mathematic structure". I suppose they (theoretically, at least) have a structure that can be usefully described using math.

Just because we can calculate planetary movement doesn't really mean much. That's getting into physics, not really math. The planets would go happily spinning in their orbits even if no one had ever invented/discovered math.

I understand what you are saying, but if we didn't call it "math" we would call it something else. Physics is explained with math. Seroiusly, we process things in mathematecal ways more than we think.

I both agree and disagree

I think of "math" as a really formal language that describes things on some sort of ideal domain where everything can be defined in concrete terms.

I think it falls apart when we try to translate it into the real world. This is probably just quibbling on my part. I probably spend too much of my time trying to translate.

any technological race has to understand math and math has universal truths and laws that are the same every where so it is the choice for building a vocabulary

Physics for some species may be a given and not an unknown quantitative meant to be analyzed. Math is no more the universal language than is music for a species with no auditory nerves.

Never. To many people are really bad at it.

maybe

we can understand sth like '∵' without learning another language.

if you think about it, everything has something to do with numbers.

math is important for us

If it is, it's no wonder I'm so confused.

Yes because almost everyone learns how to count and hopefully more than that. People sure learn the math behind money at an early age, and we all know money talks.

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everything is base on Math like 1- 10 are Universal numbers.

Symbols (including numbers) aren't the language of the universe. The likelihood that another species would decide on the same symbols to mean the same thing is so very unlikely, but these symbols are most widely understood on Earth. As far as concepts go, though, I think it is probable that they'd stumble upon the same ones given infinite time. (different cultures think differently and face different philosophical needs so some may never find the need for certain principals.)
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clarified sentence structure.

I hope not......if it is.....I am Deaf and Dumb!

You don't need a translator and math doesn't have an accent.

Mathematics is an idea that we humans invented to try to describe the universe. It is not something that is inherently present. Language is a human construct; as such, so is mathematics.



Also, mathematics is not actually able to describe *everything* in the universe, at least in a way that makes perfect sense to us: the idea of infinities, irrational numbers, imperfect ratios, the idea of limits (approaching a number but never actually reaching it), etc. And as the *real* world is overflowing with such imperfections that mathematics cannot perfectly describe - from the most massive black holes to the interactions of tiny particles that make up everything we can see, to very fabric of the universe itself - it cannot be the inherent "language" of the universe. Mathematics does not describe the world; it only estimates it.

It is the language of creation, whether you are creating a ball, or a "universe," more accurately called a "verse," because there are countless number of them. Of course, what used to be created with a slide-rule, pencils, and brains, only 40 years ago, is now done by computer on Earth.

Other cultures have machines creating machines to do the work, allowing the biological beings to explore, create, and become more than they were before. Of course, they don't have a greedy illuminati or cabal of the few who control and milk their own species for life's comforts to the demise of the masses.

It's the way all sentient beings can learn about their location. If not for math, we wouldn't be able to calculate anything about the universe, the galaxies, the stars and our own solar system. We wouldn't be able to build bridges, buildings, technological items, or even calculate the volume of water needed to fill a swimming pool.

Actually, math is the language of science and we humans use science to detect and explain the fundamental laws of the universe.

The universe itself can be explained, described, comprehended and experienced from a variety of perspectives (or "languages," if you will), from science and mathematics, to religious belief, to philosophical disputations, to simple appreciation of its beauty, and to the awe we experience when contemplating the utter vastness and complexity of the universe.

The chaos theory comes first. Math takes in to account the randomness but isn't absolute.

Math is the basis to physics,which is the basis to everything else.

Knew a math professor that went to bed with a math problem on his mind,woke up with the solution in his had.

If it is, I am well on my way to being a mute.