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Do You Agree With the Supreme Court’s Health Care Decision?

ABC News U.S. 2012/06/28 14:46:55
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In a surprising 5-4 decision, the Supreme Court voted to uphold President Obama's health care law, commonly referred to as Obamacare. Do you agree with their decision?

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  • OneLastWord 2012/06/28 20:01:35 (edited)
    No
    OneLastWord
    +40
    Next, government will tell you, you have to buy this or that, or be$ fined.



    I wonder if this really goes into the toilet “financially” will the Democrats, Obama and the White House own up to this screw-up, or just blame Bush again, or Mitt Romney as it was his Massachusetts Governor-Ship health care bill that was used (mostly copied) by the 2009 Democratic controlled congress.



    The rest of the PORK in that bill was pure, liberal democratic, Obama radical W.H. socialistic crap.


    Added 7-3-2012
    Look at these people carrying signs Soda Head has posted here, they say "Protect the Law', yet these same people and liberals will be out in numbers protesting border patrol states that are trying to uphold the law and protest their borders and send illegal’s back to where they came from until they come into the country legally. But we know what that’s all about, right?
    All votes get counted if they are Democratic votes.

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  • irish -... Rich 2012/07/01 16:05:52
    irish -liberty or death!
    i strongly suggest you open your eyes and your mind.

    'there are none so blind as those who WILL not see"!
  • Rich irish -... 2012/07/02 03:06:19
    Rich
    I have studied this legislation, and I have the benefit of over 15 yrs in the health insurance industry. May I humbly suggest you take your own advice. How anyone can claim to be in favor of self-responsibility and oppose the mandate is beyond me. Anyone doing so is either uninformed or hypocritical.
  • irish -... Rich 2012/07/02 13:02:42
    irish -liberty or death!
    and? i have been in the healthcare industry for over 28 yrs and i say its a lie. this is about govt control and taxes. it has NOTHING to do with healthcare.
  • Rich irish -... 2012/07/02 14:47:36
    Rich
    Nothing to do with health care? Really?
    We're talking about covering people with preexisting conditions, allowing adult children up to age 26 to stay on their parents' policies, getting rid of the doughnut hole in Medicare Part D, and removing caps on claims. Yep, nothing to do with health care. What on earth could I have been thinking?
  • irish -... Rich 2012/07/02 16:27:55
    irish -liberty or death!
    tsk tsk tsk,i am surprised you can't tell when the govt is making a fool out of you.
  • Rich irish -... 2012/07/03 03:15:00
    Rich
    This is supposed to qualify as a rebuttal? Son, you need help, and I am not a clinical psychologist.
  • irish -... Rich 2012/07/03 12:16:06
    irish -liberty or death!
    aww,little girl,you are so ignorant that its not worth my time.
  • Politic... Haley 2012/06/28 20:55:20
    PoliticallyIncorrect
    +1
    With a conservative Congress he certainly can have it struck down.
  • Haley Politic... 2012/06/28 21:01:51
    Haley
    Yes I can see how they could defund the law if the GOP does take control of Congress in 2012 and Romney wins but that's not really getting rid of the law is it? Let's say in 2014 the Dems take back Congress, wouldn't they just revive the law?
  • Politic... Haley 2012/06/28 21:07:16
    PoliticallyIncorrect
    If the Republicans run on the threat that the Dems would restor it in 2014, do you really think they'd get control back, especially if the GOP comes up with a viable and beneficial option?
  • Haley Politic... 2012/06/28 21:40:02
    Haley
    If the GOP does come up with a separate plan that they argue is better, I'd be more than eager to learn about it. I think if they really hate this law as much as they say they do then they will have no choice but to provide an alternative. Otherwise this law will be fought about for all time. Being re-enacted and then fought against.
    But the pendulum swings in our politics. It is inevitable that at some point the Dem (the Repubs too) will control both congress and potus.
  • mich52 2012/06/28 20:31:34
    Yes
    mich52
    +6
    It doesn't really matter if people oppose it at this point.. I guess you so called right-wing Constitutionalist need to prep up on that little piece of paper... I already see the pathetic spin you people are putting on this ass beating the SCOTUS gave you..
  • CuresCa... mich52 2012/06/28 20:52:05
    CuresCancer
    +3
    The only pleasure I can take from your victory is knowing that this law will harm you as well as everyone else.

    There is no escaping the harm this causes, no matter where you are in the US and what you do for a living, whether you are working, on welfare or retired.

    Unemployment will go up, personal and business bankruptcies will go up, the cost of essentials will go up. Salaries will either stay the same or go down. Job security will go even lower. It could get so bad that food will be more difficult to obtain in the coming years when this goes into effect.
  • Luv♥Luv CuresCa... 2012/06/28 21:05:31
    Luv♥Luv
    It does not hurt the welfare. Billions are being taken from Medicare to pay for this health insurance, along with the taxpayers money. This was on the news today and many reports are out on this subject. Yes, the rest of us are screwed...not Welfare!
  • irish -... Luv♥Luv 2012/06/28 21:23:05
  • Luv♥Luv irish -... 2012/06/28 22:27:20
    Luv♥Luv
    +1
    Yep and I'm in one of those states...big time monster. Appreciate the map, may need it sooner than I thought or hell I might have to leave the great USA.
  • irish -... Luv♥Luv 2012/06/29 11:32:30
    irish -liberty or death!
    welcome. i agree,if you can.
  • CuresCa... Luv♥Luv 2012/06/30 15:58:33
    CuresCancer
    The people on welfare will suffer from this law because (a) they will have to wait much longer to see a doctor, since more people will be going to the doctor, and there will be fewer doctors due to this law, and (b) this law will drive up the cost of everything which has a telling effect on the poor.

    The point here is that while the poor might think this law helps them, they are in for an unpleasant surprise or two.
  • mich52 CuresCa... 2012/06/28 21:56:41
    mich52
    You people sure love talking out your ass's... You don't know anything for a fact..
  • Walt mich52 2012/06/28 22:06:28
  • Denny 2012/06/28 20:31:06
    No
    Denny
    +3
    Romney wins !! Republicans gain the Senate Majority!! Obummer Care repealed........Doesn't matter. What the Libs won today is that they can punish you by Taxation. Government Motors wants you to buy a Chevy Volt. Government says you do now or will. Only thing out of this one is never elect a lib again or get a new Chief Justice, neither of which is going to happen.
  • CuresCa... Denny 2012/06/28 20:58:03
    CuresCancer
    +2
    That is the only plus that comes with this news - if the votes are counted fairly. A major contributor to Obama is the CEO of a parent company that owns many of the voting machines. So now you have fair warning.

    Even if the law is repealed, the precedent stands which means Congress can add a tax to any law they pass, and this court will allow it. The tax clause will apparently preempt the aspects of the law that are unconstitutional, according to Roberts.

    The ruling means you can write an unconstitutional law, add a tax to it and voila, it's now legal! A horrible, horrible decision by Roberts.
  • Space Invader 2012/06/28 20:29:56
    No
    Space Invader
    +5
    A stealth Tax in the guise of HealthCare reform....I do not know which is worse; the TAX or the lie..
  • Luv♥Luv Space I... 2012/06/28 21:06:29
    Luv♥Luv
    +2
    Both and the raping of Medicare benefits.
  • JoeBob Scruggs 2012/06/28 20:29:41
    Yes
    JoeBob Scruggs
    +3
    God Bess President Junior for appointing Chief Justice Roberts! God Bless Justice Roberts for being unafraid to stand up to President Obama for trying to steal RomneyCare.

    I look forward to Romney to confront President Obama for stealing RomneyCare! It's about time Willard let every American citizen know that we only had this law upheld today because of his brilliant idea and implementation of RomneyCare while he was the Democratic Governor of Massachusetts,

    And BTW President Obama, you are subject to impeachment for idea theft and plagiarism. Go Republitards!

    bush roberts
  • Birthpangs 2012/06/28 20:28:08
  • Steve King 2012/06/28 20:26:35
    No
    Steve King
    +4
    It is a green light for people to be lazy and still get cheese...mine, yours and someone else's.
  • Character 2012/06/28 20:26:34
    No
    Character
    +4
    Read the opinion - if you have few hours you want to kill...

    http://www.supremecourt.gov/o...
  • ~HopelessRomanticM17~ 2012/06/28 20:26:31
    Yes
    ~HopelessRomanticM17~
    +3
    I honestly thought they would go the other way....
  • Rich 2012/06/28 20:24:46
    Yes
    Rich
    +3
    The mandate means people who can afford health insurance won't freeload on the backs of the rest of us.
  • irish -... Rich 2012/06/28 20:42:19
    irish -liberty or death!
    +3
    wrong.
    This mandate is involuntary servitude or slavery to the big banks and the insurance industries. The 13 amendment states:

    Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

    It benefits certain industries in a crony capitalist or a monopoly system is illegal in the Constitution under Article 1 section 8:

    No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another; nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.
  • Rich irish -... 2012/06/29 04:37:05
    Rich
    Dead wrong. In this country, if you are in dire need of medical attention, you get it. It doesn't matter whether you can pay for it or not. Without the mandate, people will freeload. The problem with your freedom argument in this instance is that your choice not to buy insurance impinges on my wallet. It's just as there is a limitation on free speech because shouting fire in a crowded theater impinges on the rights of others.
  • irish -... Rich 2012/06/29 11:34:06
    irish -liberty or death!
    what you don't seem to get is that this has nothing to do with healthcare,its a power grab couched in such a way that the blind cannot see.
  • Rich irish -... 2012/06/29 16:02:46
    Rich
    Our health care system is badly broken. Personally, the new health care law is not the one I would have written. But it's infinitely better than doing nothing and certainly not a power grab. That's just extreme paranoia. Rather, the new law represents a political compromise that was the best we could do that had the votes to pass.
  • irish -... Rich 2012/06/30 10:57:56
    irish -liberty or death!
    "The president's plan is about power, not healthcare. This program is about extending the reach of the government further and further into our private lives. This program is about the continuation of the Socialization of America. Obama and his cronies want a country that is spoon-fed everything by the federal government. To what advantage? Power."

    "This legislation also provides for access, by the appointees of the Obama administration, of all of your personal healthcare direct violation of the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution information, your personal financial information, and the information of your employer, physician, and hospital. All of this is a protecting against unreasonable searches and seizures. You can also forget about the right to privacy. That will have been legislated into oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th Amendments may provide..."

    is this what you want? obamacare  screws us
  • Rich irish -... 2012/06/30 16:03:47
    Rich
    I am not qualified to counsel someone this acutely paranoid. I suggest a qualified clinical psychologist is in order.
  • Not-A-RINO 2012/06/28 20:19:18
    No
    Not-A-RINO
    +10
    While I agree with Chief Justice John Robert's comments which state basically it isn't the Court's job of protecting citizens against the government they vote for, I STRONGLY disagree forcing free citizens to purchase anything by the federal government to be an affront to individual liberty. If the federal government can force a sovereign citizen to buy anything then federalism and the Constitution are totally worthless.
  • Bulanov... Not-A-RINO 2012/06/28 20:28:32
    Bulanova (Team Hargitay)
    +3
    Make no mistake about it, the people who are gloating and happy right now WILL be bitten by this ruling in the future. Their guy's not always going to be in power. It's going to hurt to say "I told you so."
  • irish -... Not-A-RINO 2012/06/28 20:41:56
    irish -liberty or death!
    +4
    This mandate is involuntary servitude or slavery to the big banks and the insurance industries. The 13 amendment states:

    Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

    . It benefits certain industries in a crony capitalist or a monopoly system is illegal in the Constitution under Article 1 section 8:

    No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another; nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.
  • Haley Not-A-RINO 2012/06/28 21:15:43
    Haley
    I don't think you have the right to not buy healthcare and then demand treatment when you get sick. But the thing is as a moral society we could never allow this ppl to die because of a poor decision/ lack of funds. Remember back in a GOP nominee debate when Ron Paul was asked if ppl should be allowed to die if they can't pay? He started to say no but the crowd screamed yes! Well, at least the crowd was being intellectually consistent. We cannot continue to provide free care because that will bankrupt us, but neither can we allow ppl to die because they can't pay; that's morally wrong. This is the solution to this problem. It helps protect the taxpayer by providing coverage. So if you don't want to pay for healthcare then DON'T! But know you will have to pay a tax to protect the other taxpayers when you do need a doctor.

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