Do You Agree With the Supreme Court’s Health Care Decision?

I believe those who vote for ObamaKare in the first place without even reading the whole thing, should be sent to a maximum security prison for the rest of their life. for treason.

Did any of you ObamaKare supporter notice, that the man-child in the White House didn't use his cadre of "Czars of Failure", to actually try and improve the tiny VA medical system before destroying one of the best medical systems in the world? No?
Hmmmm, those who can reason, would wonder "Why not?"

What those who *believe* in ObamaKare and the first Affirmative Action President (as well as leprechauns) haven't the intelligence to grasp, is that there are *NO FREE LUNCHES*: Someone always has to pay.

So to any ObamaKare supporter that may be reading, emote on this: If you had a job, and your employer told you on Friday: "Starting on Monday, you will have more responsibilities and more rules to follow, penalties will be imposed for failure to follow the Labyrinth of rules and regulations, oh, and you'll be receiving a 30% reduction in pay as well."
What would you do?

I personally know 5 doctors that have been preparing their offices to be closed should ObamaKare be allowed by the court.

Ever work at a "Welfare Hospital"? I have.
It use to infuriate me, to see an ambulance roll in, because of a baby . . . with diaper rash. 8+ hour waits in the Emergency rooms were the norm, because of such "emergencies" and "emergencies" like them.
Now, the whole ObamaKare medical system, will be the same.
What you will see; You will go in to the Emergency Room with a broken leg, and I will go in with a a terrible hangnail. But if I got in there before you, you'll wait until after me . . . or I'll file a racism grievance against he hospital. (Since neither is life threatening, they'll take me first to avoid the longterm aggravation.)

What people like Obama who has never held a position of responsibility before, and dumbasses like him, can't grasp: The Government can regulate, restrict, require, summons, fine, sanction and compel . . . but they *CAN'T* make the people, who happen to be doctors, practice medicine.

But let's say, that not a single doctor closed their office, not one.
What happens when *TENS OF MILLIONS* are added to the patient load?
Yeah, quality of care *WILL* suffer, and the waits will become much longer for procedures and treatment. Cancer case that were survivable before, will die now . . . like in Canada and England today. (Did anyone notice that the politicians and their families won't be covered by ObamaKare? If it was really as good as the dumbasses were told to believe, based on nothing, why would they want their loved ones to receive inferior care?)

How many small businesses, will go out of business now because they can't afford to meet the ObamaKare requirements of supplying medical insurance to their employees?
(Apparently the unemployment rates weren't already high enough to suit Obama.)

Where's the *MONEY* to finance ObamaKare going to come from?
No, "the rich" will probably simply go else where where the tax burden is less: Like John Kerry did when he bought his new Yacht a few years ago.

You clearly went to different schools than I did.. liars got away with plenty and constant troublemakers were slapped on the wrist and written off as pointless to deal with while other kids payed higher penalties for the same infraction.

And I do agree that the government has had a very large hand in the tobacco and marijuana issues.. too much so, and now if we want to try to change the laws we have much more to overcome thanks to all the scare tactics they employed.

So lets say we do have more of a free market approach to medical issues. How do we insure that the people get free access to ALL the important information so that they can make a real decision for themselves? How do we make sure that information is accurate? How do we make sure that those that disagree with the information have the ability to come forward freely?

I Live in an apartment complex. it's not great but it's not bad.. I've lived in worse and better.. it's pretty middle of the road but it's in a good location so here I am almost 5 years later.. BUT if you look on line the place is a nightmare with bugs and crackheads and illegal activities in every corner of the place.. the management is horrible and the maintenance workers haven't a clue how to change a light-bulb, let alone take care of the place. I know it's not true and I know that the place got bought out and a number of fired people have posted anonymous reviews of the place as a way to get back at the new management. I know this because of the timing on the really negative reviews but others are just going to see the page and run like mice.

It's a lie but it's the way of the free market... People seeing it don't have all the necessary information and can't make a truly informed opinion. If we can't have honesty about an apartment complex.. how can we have it about something like a new drug or a doctor's care?

Did you want to play with the liar? Did you trust the liar in the future? If you really think about it, the liars may not have gotten punished by authorities (or even rewarded), but once trust is lost, it is very difficult to participate in the currency of whatever social order you are in. I digress, though, because this is an analogy and they all break down somewhere.

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And I do agree that the government has had a very large hand in the tobacco and marijuana issues.. too much so, and now if we want to try to change the laws we have much more to overcome thanks to all the scare tactics they employed.

And all because a well-connected businessman used the government against the people. Hemp was poised to take over for wood in the paper industry, so what did they do, but use government funds to demonize it. This would not have been possible if it weren't for the aforementioned shady tactics and a government willing to piss on the constitution (and a populace willing to let them). Again, the answer to this problem is less government, not more.

How do we [ensure] that the people get free access to ALL the important information so that they can make a real decision for themselves?

That's easy: by leaving it up to them and their personal physician, who has a vested interest in providing the best possible care, or else he won't be in business very long. How do we ensure that the people get free access to the correct information from a government who has been known to purposefully lie? You don't. Which prompts the question, "why would we want to give more trust to government employees than we would want to give to private employees?" And, a follow-up to that question, "what makes a government employee more noble or less likely to be incompetent or corrupt?" I'll answer those questions. To the former, we wouldn't. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Also, the phrase, "close enough for government work," exists for a reason, which leads me to the latter. Simply put, if your choices are to produce well or go hungry, you are going to be more likely to produce well. If you will not be held accountable for your actions (a condition government employees enjoy all too well) then you are actually LESS likely to do your job with competence and integrity. Deceit, corruption, and manipulation are all forms of initiation of force. The libertarian prime directive is "never initiate force." Therefore, these things are against the prime directive. Once force is initiated, it is permissible to resist that force, using as much force as is necessary. That is why no matter who you talk to on the Libertarian/anarcho-capitalist side of things, we all agree that wrongdoers should be punished for wrongdoing. Libertarians insists that this is one of the very few roles of a legitimate government.

Every problem we have in this country can be traced back not to a true free market, but to government coming in and tipping the scales unfairly and taking away true free market forces. A true free market regulates commerce much better than any centrally planned system ever could. We have not had a true free market in this country in a very long time, if ever. What we have is crony corporatism that is being CALLED capitalism where well connected businessmen continue to get government to point guns at their competition and unfairly take away their ability to compete. Obamacare is simply more of the same, expanding the role of the ineffective, incompetent, and corrupt government rather than minimizing it so that true free market forces can do their job.

When you're done with Ruwart and Browne, I would highly recommend Ludwig Von Mises. Mises is a little dry and hard to read, but very good economic information.