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Sean Mathews 2012/05/31 13:25:59
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  • Matilda Walton 2012/05/31 21:53:06
    No.
    Matilda Walton
    +5
    NOW THIS IS WHAT GOD'S WORD SAYS ABOUT THE MATTER:

    "DO NOT BE UNEQUALLY YOKED TOGETHER WITH UNBELIEVERS( ATHEISTS). FOR

    WHAT FELLOWSHIP HAS RIGHTEOUSNESS( CHRISTIANS WHO BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST

    AND DOING THE WILL OF GOD) WITH LAWLESSNESS?( THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE

    IN JESUS CHRIST AND WHO DO NOT WANT TO DO THE WILL OF GOD) AND WHAT

    COMMUNION HAS LIGHT( MATTHEW 5:13-16; CHRISTIANS ARE THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD)

    WITH DARKNESS?( UNBELIEVERS ARE CHILDREN OF SATAN THE DEVIL, THE PRINCE OF

    DARKNESS......THE POWER OF DARKNESS......EPHESIANS 6;12, LUKE 22:53,

    COLOSSIANS 1:13. 1 JOHN 3:7-12) AND WHAT ACCORD HAS CHRIST( CHRISTIANS WHO

    ARE FOLLOWERS OF JESUS CHRIST, THE CHRIST) WITH BELIAL?( SATAN AND HIS

    FOLLOWERS) OR WHAT PART DOES A BELIEVER HAVE WITH AN UNBELIEVER?

    AND WHAT AGREEMENT DOES THE TEMPLE( GOD'S PEOPLE; 1 CORINTHIANS 3:16-17) OF

    GOD HAVE WITH IDOLS?( DEMONS, OR THOSE WHO ARE DEMONIC, ATHEISTS,

    JOHN 8:44), FOR YOU( CHRISTIANS) ARE THE TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD. AS GOD HAS

    SAID: "I WILL DWELL IN THEM( GOD'S SPIRIT LIVES IN CHRISTIANS) AND WALK AMONG

    THEM. I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE. THEREFORE, COME

    OUT FROM AMONG THEM( THE ATHEISTS) AND BE SEPARATE, SAYS GOD. DO NOT

    TOUCH WHAT IS UNCLEAN( ATHESISTS). AND I WILL RECEIVE YOU. I WILL BE A ...



    NOW THIS IS WHAT GOD'S WORD SAYS ABOUT THE MATTER:

    "DO NOT BE UNEQUALLY YOKED TOGETHER WITH UNBELIEVERS( ATHEISTS). FOR

    WHAT FELLOWSHIP HAS RIGHTEOUSNESS( CHRISTIANS WHO BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST

    AND DOING THE WILL OF GOD) WITH LAWLESSNESS?( THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE

    IN JESUS CHRIST AND WHO DO NOT WANT TO DO THE WILL OF GOD) AND WHAT

    COMMUNION HAS LIGHT( MATTHEW 5:13-16; CHRISTIANS ARE THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD)

    WITH DARKNESS?( UNBELIEVERS ARE CHILDREN OF SATAN THE DEVIL, THE PRINCE OF

    DARKNESS......THE POWER OF DARKNESS......EPHESIANS 6;12, LUKE 22:53,

    COLOSSIANS 1:13. 1 JOHN 3:7-12) AND WHAT ACCORD HAS CHRIST( CHRISTIANS WHO

    ARE FOLLOWERS OF JESUS CHRIST, THE CHRIST) WITH BELIAL?( SATAN AND HIS

    FOLLOWERS) OR WHAT PART DOES A BELIEVER HAVE WITH AN UNBELIEVER?

    AND WHAT AGREEMENT DOES THE TEMPLE( GOD'S PEOPLE; 1 CORINTHIANS 3:16-17) OF

    GOD HAVE WITH IDOLS?( DEMONS, OR THOSE WHO ARE DEMONIC, ATHEISTS,

    JOHN 8:44), FOR YOU( CHRISTIANS) ARE THE TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD. AS GOD HAS

    SAID: "I WILL DWELL IN THEM( GOD'S SPIRIT LIVES IN CHRISTIANS) AND WALK AMONG

    THEM. I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE. THEREFORE, COME

    OUT FROM AMONG THEM( THE ATHEISTS) AND BE SEPARATE, SAYS GOD. DO NOT

    TOUCH WHAT IS UNCLEAN( ATHESISTS). AND I WILL RECEIVE YOU. I WILL BE A FATHER

    TO YOU, AND YOU SHALL BE MY SONS AND DAUGHTERS, SAYS GOD ALMIGHTY".

    2 CORINTHIANS 6:11-18.........1 CORINTHIANS 6:12-20
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  • Sean Ma... hannah 2012/05/31 18:11:55
    Sean Mathews
    Aw. :(
    So you mean you've dated six atheists and it's turned out that way? Also, would you be the Christian or the atheist, j/c?
  • hannah Sean Ma... 2012/05/31 18:14:35
    hannah
    im chirstian
  • Sean Ma... hannah 2012/05/31 18:20:45
    Sean Mathews
    Well, I certainly hope that your views on atheist people haven't gone down that path of utter resentment yet...although I suppose it would be at least somewhat understandable if they started to, judging by your experiences you've shared.

    Not all atheists are pretentious and arrogant towards Christians. Well, at least, I'm not.
  • hannah Sean Ma... 2012/05/31 18:23:44
    hannah
    well this last guy he waznt happy wit me message me n ill tell u
  • JAA hannah 2012/06/11 10:44:47
    JAA
    ???? Kids are ruining their ability to communicate in an intelligent manner when they resort to text messaging for everything.
  • Jeff Vader 2012/05/31 17:18:45
    Yes.
    Jeff Vader
    +1
    From personal experience, yes. My mother is an atheist and so am I and my father is very religious. It can cause some friction at times like when my father wanted to send me to a private catholic school and my mother objected. I still got sent.
  • Sean Ma... Jeff Vader 2012/05/31 17:29:44
    Sean Mathews
    +1
    Ahh, bugger. I hope it works out well for you though :)
    Thanks for commenting
  • Jeff Vader Sean Ma... 2012/05/31 17:35:44
    Jeff Vader
    +1
    It worked out OK. When I was 12 I was sent a non denominational school when my parents moved back to the UK from the US. My father realised catholic school wasn't for me :)
  • Sean Ma... Jeff Vader 2012/05/31 18:03:11
    Sean Mathews
    +1
    Haha, well, I'm glad it did work out OK. Also, I'm curious about what you mean, how your dad "realized"? (or "realised", rather)
  • Jeff Vader Sean Ma... 2012/05/31 18:24:30
    Jeff Vader
    +1
    I would question religious teaching at my school, especially when it directly contradicted the science and history I was being taught at the same school. Several teachers took exception to this had private conversations with my father asking him to have a word with me. Ultimately to shut my mouth and not embarrass them.
  • Sean Ma... Jeff Vader 2012/05/31 18:27:33
    Sean Mathews
    Hahahaha
    Well it worked out for the school in the end too, it looks like. :P
  • JAA Jeff Vader 2012/06/11 10:46:11
    JAA
    Catholicism . . . that explains it.
  • antonio.beardall 2012/05/31 15:29:46
    Yes.
    antonio.beardall
    +3
    Love is better than any belief in a spirit that may or may not exist....
  • Sean Ma... antonio... 2012/05/31 15:56:43
    Sean Mathews
    +2
    All you need is love.
    -John Lennon

    Thanks for the input!
  • wolf sloan 2012/05/31 15:09:40
    Yes.
    wolf sloan
    +1
    it has been done before
  • Sean Ma... wolf sloan 2012/05/31 15:56:11
    Sean Mathews
    +1
    Indeed
  • jackie 2012/05/31 13:54:37
    Yes.
    jackie
    +3
    They can. But I wont. I want to feel 100% comfortable with a person, if they dont like my view then im not desperate enough to date them.
  • Sean Ma... jackie 2012/05/31 15:54:21
    Sean Mathews
    Well as long as nobody's being stoned or burned to death I don't see any problem with conflicting world-views :D
  • Scott 2012/05/31 13:48:51
    Yes.
    Scott
    +3
    Sure they can although I think the relationship is probably doomed. The Christian would likely tire of being challenged and being thought of as gullible or stupid by the atheist. The atheist would likely tire of the perceived hypocrisy of the Christian; constantly holding the Christian partner to Christ-like standards; which no human can attain, which is why we need Christianity in the first place.
  • antonio... Scott 2012/05/31 15:30:32
    antonio.beardall
    +1
    no, we cna be decent, kind, moral, loving and honest without being a christian, so no, it is not needed
  • Sean Ma... antonio... 2012/05/31 15:50:37
    Sean Mathews
    Well sure I already know that, because I'm an atheist! :D
  • JAA antonio... 2012/06/11 10:49:04
    JAA
    How did your comment relate to what Scott said above? No one said that atheists can't be be "kind, moral, loving & honest". It sounds like you may be a bit hypersensitive where this subject is concerned.
  • Sean Ma... Scott 2012/05/31 15:53:27
    Sean Mathews
    I really wouldn't see any sort of need for the Christian in that relationship to have their beliefs challenged by the atheist, nor do I see any incentive for the atheist to hold the Christian to the highest moral standards of their religion. Also, I don't really follow the very last statement made in your comment.
    But thanks for your input, all the same
  • Scott Sean Ma... 2012/05/31 16:27:03
    Scott
    +1
    Well then, perhaps if there is no tension between Christians and atheists - it was a more stupid question than I thought.

    You are kidding yourself Sean if you think that atheists don't challenge Christians. I recognize a lot screen names of atheists on this thread who are guilty as sin. (Purposeful Pun Intended)
  • Sean Ma... Scott 2012/05/31 17:26:20 (edited)
    Sean Mathews
    I never said there was no room for tension, I was saying that there isn't any hostility necessary between them, and that it's possible for them to build a strong relationship while having the understanding of where they both come from when it comes to how they view the world. That's it.

    Also, the comment at the end of the first paragraph there is also unnecessary and totally uncalled for. I don't know why there's need to be rhetorical--I'm not looking for trouble here.

    If you have some beef with some atheists on these forums who have attacked you and your religion with mockery and hostility, your frustration with that is justified and healthy and I understand that. People should not be tearing down other people for their own beliefs. You should take out your anger on *those* people. Not me--I never had anything to do with it.

    At the risk of boiling trouble, I think I should mention that I also am rather offended that you seemed to be lumping me into that category of people who are vitriolic to Christians and their religion. Although I do challenge the beliefs of some Christians on this forum every so often, I make a point to stay objective and rational, and understanding that we are discussing core-beliefs and it is a sensitive subject. I do not go around belittling theists with verbal hostility. I just wanted to clarify that.
    Again though, I appreciate your input
  • Scott Sean Ma... 2012/05/31 17:41:55
    Scott
    +3
    Sean, I appreciate your civil response. And I agree that people should not be tearing down other people for their own beliefs. Yet it happens here all the time. If you spend much time on topics involving Christianity vs atheism here on Sodahead, I think you would agree that the vitriol stems primarily from non-believers challenging Christians. For some reason it seems that atheists are not satisfied with their own dis-belief. They want me to know how ignorant they think I am for my beliefs.

    And for your question Sean, it seems to me that for such a relationship to work, one or the other or both are going to have to weak feelings about their position in order for the relationship to work.

    In fairness, you said dating, you didn't mention long term. I did. And for it to work long term, the two must come to a meeting of the minds. It's too deep to be ignored. It's a sore that would never heal.
  • Sean Ma... Scott 2012/05/31 17:56:15 (edited)
    Sean Mathews
    And I also appreciate your civil response. :)
    Well, I certainly empathize with your experience and your frustration on these forums. I don't approve of such behavior that you've said you've come across on theistic debates and discussions. They shouldn't be doing that.

    Hmm, what you say about the orthodoxy of both persons' beliefs makes sense to me. I think I said something similar about that earlier on this page. I think that that's pretty understandable.

    And I suppose that, yeah, core-beliefs would have to be reconciled in order to have any kind of shot for the long-term. When it comes to long-term things, like marriage, it's a type of bond that must go very deep. And like you said, depending on how orthodox both persons are in their (lack of) beliefs, it might be impossible for it to work.
  • Scott Sean Ma... 2012/06/01 15:23:27
    Scott
    +1
    Sean, this is a good day. It's not often that opponents meet here and are able to shake hands and walk away with mutual respect and understanding. I credit you and your calm resolve.

    Thanks for listening and for sharing.
  • maybeim... Scott 2012/05/31 18:28:35
    maybeimalion
    it could also be said that christians have long disrespected the beliefs of others by trying to change peoples beliefs to the same as theirs i will also note that you were the initial agressor towards my views in our discussion... atheists and christians could sit there for eternity blaming each other for the dissent and talking about pointless things and still come up with no definitive answer.. .. the fact is that it is pointless to debate these things to try and change the other sides views... the big bang is a theory, evolution is a theory, and so is the existence of god... and until the existence of god is either proven or disproven conclusively neither side can win... so practice what you preach and be as respectful to the views of others as you would want others to be respectful to yours - (that key tenet of the bible, treat others how you wish to be treated) there is really no need for the fighting and bickering as it answers nothing... follow your own words QUOTE " I agree that people should not be tearing down other people for their own beliefs" it is hypocritical of you to have tried to do so to me.. and i am entitled to defend my beliefs.. peace?
  • Sean Ma... maybeim... 2012/05/31 19:26:13 (edited)
    Sean Mathews
    +1
    Well I wouldn't say that the Big Bang theory and evolutionary theory are the same kind of theory as the God-theory, being that the Big Bang cosmology and evolution are strongly supported by evidence and have withstood the tests of criticism and peer-review. (Of course I already assumed you knew the difference between a scientific theory and the word "theory" as a colloquialism, so I'm not actually making an argument, I'm just pointing this out for the sake of rigor.)
    On the contrary, there is no evidence or substantive reason to believe in the existence of any god(s). At least, not to my knowledge there isn't.
  • maybeim... Sean Ma... 2012/05/31 19:59:52
    maybeimalion
    +1
    yeah mate i know... im not going to argue against something that supports my beliefs.. :) but in order to make the point clear to him i tried to make both sides of that argument equal and unbiased.. so that he couldn't dismiss it on the grounds of it being biased or offensive :)
  • Sean Ma... maybeim... 2012/05/31 22:47:45
    Sean Mathews
    Ah, I gotcha.
  • JAA Sean Ma... 2012/06/11 10:54:57 (edited)
    JAA
    Nature itself & its intricacies is plenty of evidence for "God". Atheists just refuse to believe it. They'd prefer ex nihilo nihil (nothing from nothing) theory. Both require faith.
  • Scott maybeim... 2012/06/01 15:31:05
    Scott
    +1
    Peace.
  • America... Scott 2012/06/05 18:50:20
    American☆Atheist
    Atheists are smart and non-violent and christians have HIGH crime rates.
  • Sean Ma... America... 2012/06/05 20:29:59
    Sean Mathews
    Citations?
  • America... Sean Ma... 2012/06/05 20:44:46
  • Sean Ma... America... 2012/06/05 20:50:02
    Sean Mathews
    O_o Interesting.
  • America... Sean Ma... 2012/06/05 20:54:12
    American☆Atheist
    Yes, science is great.
  • Sean Ma... America... 2012/06/05 22:11:27

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