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CA Homeowner Shoots and Kills Armed Home Invader, Wounds 2 Others as Children Have Sleepover, well done or should they have been unarmed and all killed as the all mighty god the state wants?

RoyJLores 2012/12/24 00:48:03
The homeowner did the right thing! Long live the 2nd amendment.
Bwhaha! Only the Government our god the state should have guns, The homowner should have died along with everyone on that house like a good obedient slave, submit or we will kill you all, hell we will you all anyway Amen!
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So armed gunmen break into a CA home and the homeowner who possesses a firearm shoots one of the perps dead and wounds the other 2 as children are having a sleepover that very night.

Question: Did the homeowner did a good job protecting his home, his loved ones and the children inside, or should he have been unarmed so everyone in the house could be righteously killed by the criminals like all Statists daydream 24/7/365?

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  • Jeff Smith 2012/12/24 01:21:32
    Bwhaha! Only the Government our god the state should have guns, The homowner ...
    Jeff Smith
    +8
    If you live in California. I'm surprised the homeowners not in jail for 1st degree murder and 3 counts of attempted murder isn't that how California law works in favor of the bad guys. It sure seems like that's the way the Obama administration see's it they would rather innocent people die then the bad guys

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  • Donald Eric Kesler 2012/12/26 06:18:15
    The homeowner did the right thing! Long live the 2nd amendment.
    Donald Eric Kesler
    I still want reasonable restrictions on the sales of guns put in place to help prevent guns from falling into the hands of criminals or the mentally impaired.
  • RoyJLores Donald ... 2012/12/26 06:25:42
    RoyJLores
    Since when criminals obey laws? Geesh...
  • Donald ... RoyJLores 2012/12/26 06:42:13
    Donald Eric Kesler
    Are you an advocate for anarchy? Are you suggesting that we give way to the criminal and make all actions legal? Geesh...
  • RoyJLores Donald ... 2012/12/26 07:38:33
    RoyJLores
    As usual with all liberty hating, slavery loving Statists you are insane. They already had gun laws in all the places where mass shootings have taken place and in fact all of them were gun free zones where citizens had been disarmed for the convenience of the criminal.
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  • Donald ... RoyJLores 2012/12/26 15:02:11
    Donald Eric Kesler
    Nothing you have shared justifies allowing criminals and the mentally impaired ready access to firearms.
  • RoyJLores Donald ... 2012/12/26 21:47:56
    RoyJLores
    As in forbidding access to drugs works oh wait it doesn't either/ you are hopelessly stupid but then again all Statists are by default..
  • Donald ... RoyJLores 2012/12/27 11:18:51
  • RoyJLores Donald ... 2012/12/27 15:04:58
    RoyJLores
    What discussion? Like all Statists you have your mind made up that only your god the state should have guns and a wholesale monopoly on violence.
    discussion statists mind god guns monopoly violence
  • Donald ... RoyJLores 2012/12/27 20:15:46
    Donald Eric Kesler
    I do not hold that only the state should have guns. That is a gross mischaracterization of my position.
  • RoyJLores Donald ... 2012/12/27 22:05:03
    RoyJLores
    No it isn't at all, and there have have been gun bans already like the one you want and columbine proved it does not work anymore than prohibition AKA the war on drugs...
  • Donald ... RoyJLores 2012/12/28 21:29:59
    Donald Eric Kesler
    You are debating a straw man. As I said before, I am not advocating for a ban on guns. I will let you have the final word.
  • RoyJLores Donald ... 2012/12/28 23:15:36 (edited)
    RoyJLores
    You advocate banning so called assault weapons when it is well known that it did not prevent Columbine.
    advocate banning assault weapons prevent columbine
  • Donald ... RoyJLores 2012/12/29 16:54:40
    Donald Eric Kesler
    Once again, you are debating a straw man. I am not advocating for a ban on assault weapons.

    I was going to let you have the final word, but I am reluctant to stand idly by while you intentionally lie about my position.
  • RoyJLores Donald ... 2012/12/29 16:57:00
  • Donald ... RoyJLores 2012/12/29 17:09:55
    Donald Eric Kesler
    When and where did I declare a desire to ban assault weapons?
  • RoyJLores Donald ... 2012/12/29 17:31:17
    RoyJLores
    Here's the deal gun shops do not go selling guns to criminals or to madmen either in fact not even in guns shows this takes place either. Most guns used in crimes have been obtained illegally.
  • Donald ... RoyJLores 2012/12/29 17:55:45
    Donald Eric Kesler
    CBS News reported that James Eagan Holmes met with at least three mental health professionals at the University of Colorado prior to the massacre of July 20, 2012 at a Century movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, which killed 12 people and injured 58 others.

    On May 22, 2012, Holmes purchased a Glock 22 pistol at a Gander Mountain shop in Aurora, and six days later bought a Remington Model 870 shotgun at a Bass Pro Shops in Denver. On June 7, just hours after failing his oral exam at the university, he purchased a Smith & Wesson M&P15 semi-automatic rifle, with a second Glock 22 pistol following on July 6. All the weapons were bought legally.

    In the four months prior to the shooting, Holmes also bought 3000 rounds of ammunition for the pistols, 3000 rounds for the M&P15, and 350 shells for the shotgun over the Internet. On July 2, he placed an order for a Blackhawk Urban Assault Vest, two magazine holders and a knife at an online retailer.
  • RoyJLores Donald ... 2012/12/29 18:04:04
    RoyJLores
    And you off off course believe whatever the MSM tells you...
  • Donald ... RoyJLores 2012/12/29 18:22:56
    Donald Eric Kesler
    Is there a reason to doubt the claim that Holmes met with three mental health professionals? Is there an issue with CBS's sources? Regardless, here is an article from the conservative news network, confirming that Holmes was undergoing psychiatric care.

    http://www.foxnews.com/health...
  • RoyJLores Donald ... 2012/12/29 18:37:14
  • Donald ... RoyJLores 2012/12/29 18:43:50
    Donald Eric Kesler
    So what are you claiming? Do you think Holmes was not the recipient of psychiatric care? Do you think he obtained his arsenal illegally?

    Surely, you don't think Holmes was a mere pawn in some vast super secret illuminati conspiracy?
  • RoyJLores Donald ... 2012/12/29 20:41:58
    RoyJLores
    Actually he was and he was under the influence of anti depressants which are what should be looked at not guns. And I don't doubt he obtained his weapons illegally as is far easier to obtain illegally than legally no papers to sign, no waiting period.
  • Donald ... RoyJLores 2012/12/30 06:10:58
    Donald Eric Kesler
    Seriously? You think Holmes was the pawn in a vast super secret conspiracy. Seriously? What is your source for this information?

    You have already stated that you trust none of the mainstream sources of news; however, you blindly trust the unsupported claims made by some deluded and paranoid fringe group of conspiracy theorists.

    Regardless, there's absolutely no evidence that Holmes broke any laws in acquiring his collection of weapons. There is, however, an abundance of evidence that he purchased his weapons in accordance with existing laws.

    Had Holmes acquired his guns illegally then the prosecution would have added this to the list of crimes he is being accused of committing.

    The fact that Holmes was medicated lends credence to the claim made by both CBS and FOX that Holmes was receiving psychiatric care. As such, his condition should have been recognized and he should have been prevented from legally buying several guns.
  • T A Donald ... 2012/12/27 22:31:12
    T A
    No one has the right to impose on another's non-violent actions. Writing on a piece of paper that some people do does not make it so.
  • Donald ... T A 2012/12/29 17:43:10
    Donald Eric Kesler
    I do not wish to impose on the rights of sane and law abiding gun owners. I want stiffer restrictions on the sale of guns to criminals and the mentally impaired.
  • T A Donald ... 2012/12/29 18:40:48 (edited)
    T A
    Then convince those who own them not to sell them to such people and stop using violence to impede non-violent transactions. If you initiate aggression or advocate it you are as much a part of the problem you wish to solve.
  • Donald ... T A 2012/12/29 18:52:50
    Donald Eric Kesler
    I am not advocating for the use of violence or the initiation of aggression.

    I would like to see legislation that held distributers accountable for providing guns and ammunition to criminals and the mentally ill. I would also support legislation that required a background check on the sale of all firearms, even between private individuals.

    Such legislation would not unduly impede reasonable transactions, but would serve to deter gun owners from selling to criminals and the mentally ill.
  • Ol'Dave 2012/12/24 22:06:33
    The homeowner did the right thing! Long live the 2nd amendment.
    Ol'Dave
    If you INVADE A HOME, the homeowner, in my opinion, has the RIGHT TO DEFEND HIMSELF, OTHERS & HIS HOUSE!! Once the INVADER & ACCOMPLICES exit the premesis, IT'S A MATTER FOR THE COPS, you cease fire!!
  • none 2012/12/24 20:27:39
    The homeowner did the right thing! Long live the 2nd amendment.
    none
    Too bad he didn't kill all three and save the broke state of California some money.
  • DANNY59 2012/12/24 19:13:34
    The homeowner did the right thing! Long live the 2nd amendment.
    DANNY59
    If you can't protect yourself in your own home, we have a serious flaw in our way of thinking.
  • bigfoot 2012/12/24 19:04:08 (edited)
    The homeowner did the right thing! Long live the 2nd amendment.
    bigfoot
    Exactly the right thing if the event took place as reported..However,how about the two firefighters shot and killed and three others wounded in Webster ,N.Y. by gun nuts? "People Kill,Guns Don't'.I'sn't that the phrase? Then whats wrong with doing something about the type of person,who shouldn't have a gun? And limiting the type of fire arm a person is allowed to purchase? Because the argument isn't about the second anything.Or protection.It is about what everything in America is about,MONEY/PROFIT/POWER.All wrapped in the phony patriotic rhetoric of the Right.What did the the FOUR,FOUR perps expect to find?Why this particular house,surrounded by many other houses on a busy traffic traveled street? Your so enamored with the thought of the cowboy in a white hat shooting the guy in the black hat you over look all the other facts that might have led up to the event.As usual.
  • frank 2012/12/24 17:46:27
    The homeowner did the right thing! Long live the 2nd amendment.
    frank
    Why wasn't that covered on the all news stations? Why because it goes against gun control. It would have been the top breaking news story if the home owner has been killed.

    One of two headlines do you think the news media would like to run: Homeowner saves himself and kids by shooting home invaders, or Homeowner killed during home invasion?
  • WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB 2012/12/24 17:35:27
    The homeowner did the right thing! Long live the 2nd amendment.
    WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB
    +1
    Good job. Just like the young man last week who saved his little sisters life, and his own in Texas.
  • Boudicea 2012/12/24 17:03:18
    The homeowner did the right thing! Long live the 2nd amendment.
    Boudicea
    Sometimes I long for the days of vigilantes
  • jubil8 BN-0 PON 2012/12/24 14:05:41
    The homeowner did the right thing! Long live the 2nd amendment.
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    These questions are getting really tedious. And the link doesn't work.

    1. ARMED criminals aren't the goal of gun control laws.

    2. The shooting occurred on private property -- a man defended his home and family. Nobody objects to that as far as I know.

    3. The man did not next take his weapon, run to the nearest public place, and start shooting into a crowd.

    4. I'll bet he used a handgun, not an assault weapon.

    Question: What's the connection between a man defending his family from CRIMINALS and a whacko killing 27 innocent people including his own mother? I don't see any.
  • Lady Whitewolf 2012/12/24 13:40:18
    The homeowner did the right thing! Long live the 2nd amendment.
    Lady Whitewolf
    Nuff said.... hope the injured heal soon!
  • Richard Proffer 2012/12/24 10:28:30
    The homeowner did the right thing! Long live the 2nd amendment.
    Richard Proffer
    +2
    I would have killed the other two also
  • Tic-Toc 2012/12/24 08:05:37
    The homeowner did the right thing! Long live the 2nd amendment.
    Tic-Toc
    +2
    Just curious did he use a Muzzle Loader as all the libs say that is the only gun we can own.
  • ruthannhausman 2012/12/24 07:41:55
    The homeowner did the right thing! Long live the 2nd amendment.
    ruthannhausman
    +3
    Of course he did the right thing. Only an idiot would say he didn't. Bet the parents of those sleepover children didn't complain about guns in the house.
  • TheTruth1313 2012/12/24 07:24:43
    The homeowner did the right thing! Long live the 2nd amendment.
    TheTruth1313
    +5
    Long live the second amendment.

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