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As a Caucasian American, do you owe reparations to the descendants of slaves?

Tee Quake 2012/08/20 01:08:43
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Absolutely, unequivocally NO. NOT AT ALL. It is one of the biggest, ongoing, hate mongering non-issues being perpetuated by the likes of bald face racists like Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, & Luis Farrakhan. Barack Obama, and other black race baiters with their cancerous hands perpetually extended trying to get something for nothing, creatures like Sharpton and Jackson have done more damage to the healing of race relations than practically anyone else. Jackson, the fat man who never missed a meal; 40 to 60 pounds overweight, what has he accomplished for his people. And let's call a spade a spade, Obama had touched the flames of racial discord at every opportunity. Ask yourself, honestly, would you be better off if Jackson and Sharpton had never reared their ugly faces in your life? I think the great majority, with the capacity to be honest, will have to admit that nothing good has ever materialized from these poisonous vipers involvement. They are only interested in stirring-up trouble to keep their mugs in the news and the contributions continuing to fatten their coffers. nothing more and noting less. I am deeply surprised and deeply saddened that the wise people and people with character seem to have taken seats in the back of the bus while Obama is attempting to drives.



























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  • santa6642 2012/08/20 01:23:54
    Absolutely NOT. It's ancient history being dredged-up by lowlife ambulance ch...
    santa6642
    +10
    I owe no one and slavery has been part of human suffering going back before the birth of Jesus, and color made no difference.

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  • ✞Knight of Honor 2012/09/19 01:23:10
    Absolutely NOT. It's ancient history being dredged-up by lowlife ambulance ch...
    ✞Knight of Honor
    Especially because my heritage is Irish, German, and Lithuanian; none of my family (even really far back) ever had slaves.
  • marty 2012/09/14 00:11:12
    Absolutely NOT. It's ancient history being dredged-up by lowlife ambulance ch...
    marty
    Both my Caucasian side and Asian side say Hell No!
  • mac9 2012/08/25 18:33:31
    Absolutely NOT. It's ancient history being dredged-up by lowlife ambulance ch...
    mac9
    The free rides must end.
  • Nick 2012/08/25 01:38:03
    None of the above
    Nick
    I don't know my family came here after 1900, and they were not treated much better.
  • Gracie - Proud Conservative 2012/08/25 01:22:54 (edited)
    Absolutely NOT. It's ancient history being dredged-up by lowlife ambulance ch...
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    My family didn't own slaves, my family died freeing them. Should they pay my family reparations for our part in it?
  • Luv♥Luv 2012/08/25 01:14:20
  • shadow76 2012/08/23 15:15:07 (edited)
    Absolutely NOT. It's ancient history being dredged-up by lowlife ambulance ch...
    shadow76
    One side of my family wasn't even here. The other was dirt poor. Even if my Grandfather owned slaves I wouldn't owe them a nickel! PS I am NOT an caucaisen American! I am American.
  • AshtonInTheWake 2012/08/23 14:34:46
    None of the above
    AshtonInTheWake
    +1
    It's a non-issue. and I came from a family of immigrants after the colonial days... I like to think that I'm not involved. also, AA's were kidnapped and sold by other Africans, Colonialist's just bought them. Not to say it's right, far from it, but African American's can blame other Africans for kidnapping them form their huts (that is not Racist btw, I just don't know what shelters they had...) and sleeping places and ship them to here. I'm racially insensitive, italians got hate, and so did germans, so I'm like, why can't we let bygones be bygones and just get along? Buutt... as said earlier, it's a non issue. It's crap to be dragged up.
  • Barbi Rose 2012/08/23 14:22:15
    None of the above
    Barbi Rose
    The lawyer thing is part of it but so are the civil rights yahoo's like Rev Jackson, Sharptongue and others. Lets be real folks the hell the generations of blacks went through was so the blacks of today could have the opportunities they have today. Without slavery there would have been no civil war most likely. Without Slavery, no civil rights movement, without slavery how many of the blacks who enjoy the USA today as free with jobs and careers as even the President of the USA would not have those positions. They would be stuck in some 3rd world poor broken country with little hope. Rwanda, African nations. It was horrible what and how it happened but lets not forget it still happens in black nations today black on black slavery! But for the ancestors of the slaves live is pretty good they can make of it what they want, school, college, athletics, sports, the olympics, politics without it they would have nothing many would not even be alive..so enough of us giving and giving for wrongs (legal at the time mostly world wide and many of the blacks were sold to the whites by the blacks least i remind you) centuries ago. I think if their ancestors who were slaves and knew the opportunities that freedom brought with it saw what many black people do with their whining they would roll over in their graves.
  • t.eliot, topbard 2012/08/22 21:18:43
    Undecided
    t.eliot, topbard
    I'm part Caucasian, part S American Native, w/ a smattering of other stuff mixed in, so I don't really fit the question. My opinion, however, is that the European conquerors visited untold misery on the Native population and also perpetrated unspeakable crimes in their capture and importation of Africans to be slaves. The white race has undoubtedly spilled the most blood of all, which can never be repaid, but that said, I don't think this is the way to effect reparations. The institution of a just civil society NOW, where there was more than the lousy lip service we currently give to equality of opportunity is really the only way to address the problem.
  • dustcircle 2012/08/22 20:32:42
    Absolutely NOT. It's ancient history being dredged-up by lowlife ambulance ch...
    dustcircle
    That happened ages ago. Reparations have been made through affirmative action, giving them condos (projects), and allowing their comedians to tell anti-white jokes. If they don't have a leg up already, I'm not sure what to say...
  • Fredrick House 2012/08/22 00:00:49
    Absolutely NOT. It's ancient history being dredged-up by lowlife ambulance ch...
    Fredrick House
    +1
    If so, we owe reparations to the Native Americans, to Mexico for Texas, to Russia for Alaska, to France for the Louisiana Purchase, to the Chinese who labored in the fields and canals, ad infinitum. Get over it! We have already paid reparations many times over.
    Some people just won't use what they have been given. Do I have to name them?
    Food Stamps, public education,public housing, affirmative action, Medicaid, free ER care, laws against discrimination, etc. etc. Yet there are those who buck the will of the "Experience" and are not seduced by race baiting preachers, "Community Organizers," and politicians like Jesse Jackson, Jeremiah Wright, Al Sharpton, and a host of other welfare pimps. Those people deserve special treatment for pulling themselves out of the mire.
  • Rick 2012/08/21 18:38:40
    Absolutely NOT. It's ancient history being dredged-up by lowlife ambulance ch...
    Rick
    +2
    All the slaves that I owned in my entire lifetime...line up for your reparations.

    Line of black people
  • rebeccasrevenge 2012/08/21 17:25:21
    Certainly the white man owes far more than he will ever repay for the atrocit...
    rebeccasrevenge
    Su Whoop to da Beehive!
  • Mike J. Hirak 2012/08/21 15:50:22
    Absolutely NOT. It's ancient history being dredged-up by lowlife ambulance ch...
    Mike J. Hirak
    +1
    I don't have any slaves. No one in my family has ever owned any slaves
  • charles nelson 2012/08/21 15:41:21
    Undecided
    charles nelson
    What do you think?
  • Scout 2012/08/21 14:03:21 (edited)
    None of the above
    Scout
    +2
    The Romans enslaved my ancestors but I don't expect Italy to fork over any Lira.
  • Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~ 2012/08/21 13:05:13
    Absolutely NOT. It's ancient history being dredged-up by lowlife ambulance ch...
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    +2
    Of course not. White people today had nothing to do with it, and black people today weren't affected.
  • Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2012/08/21 09:21:37
    Absolutely NOT. It's ancient history being dredged-up by lowlife ambulance ch...
    Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +2
    I did not commit the crime of owning a slave and I never discriminated against anyone based on skin color. Therefore I owe no one anything on this issue.
  • Beat Magnum True Hero 2012/08/21 08:55:35
    None of the above
    Beat Magnum True Hero
    My family didn't even live in America until 1958. There's your answer.
  • Dan der Mensch 2012/08/21 05:50:04
    Absolutely NOT. It's ancient history being dredged-up by lowlife ambulance ch...
    Dan der Mensch
    +2
    Whenever blacks and whites start getting along, someone always brings this up to divide them again. My family tree was replanted here in the states long after abolition - so a tariff on my skin, levied by descendants of slaves, would be slavery in reverse. Which is really what some people want evidently.
  • *Mahoga... Dan der... 2012/08/21 06:47:38
  • Bureauc 0webama 2012/08/21 04:57:28
    Absolutely NOT. It's ancient history being dredged-up by lowlife ambulance ch...
    Bureauc 0webama
    +1
    ''Blacks built this country and deserve to be repaid handsomely for their efforts''
    You bet, just like all those thriving metropolises in Africa!
  • *Mahoga... Bureauc... 2012/08/21 06:30:55 (edited)
    *Mahogany Goddess
    +4
    Yes Black Americans did build this country off of their backs and innovation despite the fatuous statement you stated. You also know nothing about African history; the Western world would have never been the power house that it had become solely from White Europeans. It was a collective effort and gains from Africa, the Middle East and Asia.

    "Contrary to popular views about precolonial Africa, local manufacturers were at this time creating items of comparable, if not superior, quality to those from preindustrial Europe. Due to advances in native forge technology, smiths in some regions of sub-Saharan Africa were producing steels of a better grade than those of their counterparts in Europe, and the highly developed West African textile workshops had produced fine cloths for export long before the arrival of European traders."

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    Yes Black Americans did build this country off of their backs and innovation despite the fatuous statement you stated. You also know nothing about African history; the Western world would have never been the power house that it had become solely from White Europeans. It was a collective effort and gains from Africa, the Middle East and Asia.

    "Contrary to popular views about precolonial Africa, local manufacturers were at this time creating items of comparable, if not superior, quality to those from preindustrial Europe. Due to advances in native forge technology, smiths in some regions of sub-Saharan Africa were producing steels of a better grade than those of their counterparts in Europe, and the highly developed West African textile workshops had produced fine cloths for export long before the arrival of European traders."

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    He worked as a radio tester with Western Electric Company. Later he helped design devices to detect and measure radiation emissions from nuclear warheads, machines used in airports to detect fissionable materials, and portable neutron detectors for the officials of the International Atomic Energy Agency in their effort to prevent the proliferation of plutonium. Omohundro also authored and co-authored more than
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    for his inventions. He worked as a research nuclear physicist until his
    retirement from the Naval Research laboratory.

    Always a very private man, he was well respected by all his colleagues.
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    Scientist specializing in fluoride chemistry, nuclear chemistry, and spectroscopy. Assistant to associate research scientist and chemist on the Manhattan Project, New York, NY, and Chicago, IL, 1943-46; nuclear and fluoride chemist at Argonne National Laboratories, Chicago, 1946-1970s; developed the "diamond window," 1967; performed initial research on synthetic blood during the 1960s; created new compounds and molecules. Author or coauthor of many professional papers in his fields of specialization.

    An Ebony article written in 1949 profiled the ten African-American scientists working at Argonne, including Quarterman, and stressed the positive potential that scientists then saw in nuclear physics: "Most of the experiments at Argonne are involved in such projects as disease prevention, prolonging human life and producing new sources of power." At the time, Quarterman expressed his usual feeling of excitement at discovery: "You can expect almost anything when you are exploring. It's just like playing poker; you've got to keep your eyes open."

    He continued to work with Fermi's team of scientists, who contributed to the first nuclear power plant. Although the process of producing energy from nuclear fission has become controversial because of possible dangers and resulting pollutants, the scientists involved in this project in the late 1940s believed that they were creating a revolutionary peacetime possibility from their military research. For Quarterman, this became the opportunity to study quantum mechanics under a world-renowned scientist, augmenting and strengthening his skills as a chemist and physicist. In 1952, Quarterman earned a master's of science degree from Northwestern University.

    The bulk of Quarterman's work involved his skills as both a nuclear chemist and a fluoride chemist: he primarily occupied himself with creating new chemical compounds and, consequently, new molecules, from fluoride solutions. Van Sertima described the nature and significance of this work: "When Quarterman was going to school there were no 'compounds' of zeon or argon or krypton. These were ... thought to stand sovereign and alone, reacting with nothing. But Quarterman and his team made them react with the fluorine atoms. They made zeon tetrafluoride--zeon difluride--zeon hexafluoride.... Quarterman took zeon difluoride and incorporated it in other experiments, making a whole series of new compounds." Van Sertima concluded that "for a period of time they were the greatest fluoride chemists on earth."

    Quarterman also worked as a spectroscopist, studying the interactions between matter and radiation. Van Sertima compared this field of specialization to "a man peering into the depths of the universe with a dozen eyes or windows.... He can study the composition of elements in our universe that are either invisible or elusive or obscure to us." In order to "look at" a highly corrosive solution, hydrogen fluoride, Quarterman developed a unique, corrosion resistant "window" made of diamonds--aptly referred to as the "diamond window." It was after a long period of exploration that Quarterman succeeded with the "first discovery trial" of the diamond window in 1967. By 1971, his credentials were such that his alma mater awarded him an honorary doctorate of science in chemistry.

    In the last twenty years of his life, before a paralyzing illness began to slow him down, Quarterman initiated research on a medical possibility known as "synthetic blood"--"work which," Van Sertima commented, "had he been allowed to complete it, might have been one of America's major medical accomplishments." The reason that Quarterman was not able to continue with this work has never been explained, although "the loss of an opportunity to work on this project, which he felt might have saved thousands of lives," is said to have greatly disappointed Quarterman. He told Van Sertima only that he "ran into socio-political problems."


    William Jacob Knox

    William Knox earned his Master’s degree and his Ph.D. from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in 1929 and 1935 respectively. From 1935 to 1942, Knox was a professor in the chemistry department at North Carolina A&T; College. He left in 1942 to become chair of the chemistry department at Talladega College. One year later, however, he joined a team of scientists at Columbia University who were devising a way to separate the two uranium isotopes using gaseous diffusion, a complex process that made use of uranium hexafluoride, an extremely corrosive material. Though he did not know it at the time, his work was essential to the development of the atom bomb. Knox also holds the distinction of being a supervisor on the project.

    Because of his work on corrosive substances, he was hired as a research scientist for Eastman Kodak in Rochester, New York in 1945. During his time at Kodak he received patents at a rate of nearly one per year, totaling 21 patents in 25 years. Knox retired from Kodak in 1970. Knox briefly returned to teaching at North Carolina A&T;, remaining there until his permanent retirement in 1973.


    James A Parsons Jr.

    James A. Parsons Jr. was a scientist, inventor, and university professor, whose research with rust resistant metals and iron alloys is credited with leading to the development of stainless steel. During his lifetime, he received several patents pertaining to metals for his achievements. Parsons was highly respected among his peers in the scientific community and widely regarded as one of the nation’s leading metallurgists.

    After Renesselaer, Parsons returned to his hometown and was hired by Duriron in 1922 for the job of analytical chemist, a position that was certainly more befitted to his credentials and intellect than foundry laborer. He worked with aluminum bronze and made a lasting contribution to the Aluminum Bronze Foundation. In 1927, Parsons won the prestigious Harmon Foundation award in science, the first of its kind, for the advances he made with rust-resistant or non-corrosive metals. His gold medal was presented by Orville Wright, one of Ohio’s most famous sons, and Charles Kettering, an acclaimed engineer, gave the address for the event. During the early 1930s, Parsons continued to rise through the Duriron company ranks.


    In 1935, Duriron had a reputation as the sole world manufacturer of specific kinds of non-corrosive metals. A 1939 article in the Journal of Negro Education mentions that the president of Duriron wrote Parsons a laudatory and appreciative letter praising his performance and his “valuable development work,” as well as commending him for the patents the firm had been credited with because of Parsons’ accomplishments. Citing Parsons’ “executive ability,” the letter indicated that he was not only superlative in his chosen field of electrical engineering but could hold his own in chemistry and metallurgy.

    Between 1929 and 1949, Parsons received eight patents pertaining to the development and application of non-corrosive metals, which were credited to the Duriron Company. In 1929, he received Patent Number 1,728,360 on an iron alloy, and four years later he acquired Patent Number 1,819,479 for discovering a way to make silicon iron compounds. In 1934 and 1935, Parsons acquired Patents Number 1,912,103 and CA 348312 for inventing a process for treatment of silicon alloy castings. During the two-year span between 1938 and 1940, Parsons received three patents (2,134,670; 2,185,987; and 2,200,208) on corrosion-resisting ferrous alloy. Not one to rest on his laurels, he achieved Patent Number 2,318,011 on a cementation process for treating metals in 1943. Parsons was awarded his final patent, Number 2,467,288, in 1949 for a nickel-based alloy.

    In the 1940s, Parsons became the chief metallurgist and a laboratory manager at the Duriron Company. Parsons’ department, which was comprised of an entirely African American staff with chemical expertise, researched aluminum bronze and tested treating iron and steel to be resistant to the corrosiveness of acids, such as sulphuric and hydrochloric. Parsons was so successful in discovering new measures for testing and protecting metals from corrosion that by 1950 he was widely recognized as one of the nation’s leading scientists, an expert on rust-resistant metals.

    Louis W Roberts

    Roberts was a pioneer in optics and microwave electronics technology. He was
    also one of the highest-ranking African-American scientists working for NASA
    during our race to the moon. Roberts holds eleven patents for electronic
    devices and is the author of papers on electromagnetism, optics, and
    microwaves.

    Roberts began his research on optics and microwave electronics. Over time, his
    pioneering work earned him 11 patents and led him to a research position with
    Sylvania Electric. Eventually he left Sylvania and formed his own company to
    continue research and development of microwave applications. He eventually
    started three other research companies that were a catalyst for rapid
    development in this new field.

    His pioneering work brought him to the attention of NASA in the early 1960s. The
    space agency pulled him away from private research and made him chief of NASA's
    Microwave and Optics Laboratory. This position made him one of the highest
    ranking Black Americans in the space program at the height of the Apollo era.
    Louis Roberts stayed with NASA for the better part of a decade.


    When the big budget cuts began at NASA at the end of the Apollo program in the early 1970s, Louis Roberts moved on to the Department of Transportation, where there were
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    As the Director of Energy and Environment at the Transportation System Center in
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    energy conservation practices for the transportation industries. Currently, transportation accounts for over half of the United States' consumption of petroleum. However, the Energy Conservation Policy Act requires the transportation sector to reduce fuel consumption in all types of vehicles.


    David Nelson Crosthwait Jr.

    During his time with the company, Crosthwait held many positions, including director of research. While at Dunham, he conducted research in several areas, including heat transfer and steam transport. His work led to many innovations in HVAC devices and technology and held more than 30 U.S. patents. Crosthwait designed HVAC systems; the heating system at Radio City Music Hall in New York City is perhaps the best-known example of his work.

    Besides research, product development, and HVAC system design, Crosthwait also advanced his field by writing articles and revising sections of several editions of American Society of Heating and Ventilation Engineers Guide. His accomplishments were recognized by many in his field. He won a medal from the National Technological Association in the 1930s and was made a fellow of the American Society of Heating, Refrigeration, and Air Conditioning Engineers (ASHRAE) in 1971??the first African American to received the honor.
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  • Simeon~thegayliberal 2012/08/21 04:21:58
  • *Mahoga... Simeon~... 2012/08/21 06:47:48
  • john doe 2012/08/21 04:01:42
    None of the above
    john doe
    Sounds like someone hates black people. I owe other Americans nothing.
  • ☆SPIDERPIECES☆ 2012/08/21 03:58:37
    None of the above
    ☆SPIDERPIECES☆
  • Simeon~... ☆SPIDER... 2012/08/21 04:22:18 (edited)
    Simeon~thegayliberal
    +3
    That is so true, and sad...

    It's something this country likes to pretend didn't happen. That and the genocide of the Native Americans.
  • Anonymo... ☆SPIDER... 2012/08/21 13:12:34
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    The others are much more recent. The atrocities that happened over 150 years ago are long gone and should be gotten over, but not necessarily forgotten. Slavery is old news, how about worrying about slaves nowadays instead of slaves 300 years ago?
  • *Mahoga... Anonymo... 2012/08/21 14:15:46 (edited)
    *Mahogany Goddess
    +2
    So was Jim Crow laws and not having Constitutional rights until the late 60's and implemented towards the mid 70's. Not for reparations by any means but those are the facts. Plus, Black people as a majority never asked for reparations and despite other groups receiving them.
  • Ms. Texas 2012/08/21 03:37:24
    Absolutely NOT. It's ancient history being dredged-up by lowlife ambulance ch...
    Ms. Texas
    +1
    Why should I pay for something I didn't do? Why should people who were never slaves benefit from what their ancestors went through?
  • I. Car Rus 2012/08/21 02:10:52
    None of the above
    I. Car Rus
    +2
    A simple "no" selection would have sufficed. Spare me the diatribe. My answer is "no".
  • Azrael-In GOD we trust 2012/08/21 02:05:02
    Absolutely NOT. It's ancient history being dredged-up by lowlife ambulance ch...
    Azrael-In GOD we trust
    +1
    Nope-I didn't own any, nor would I.
  • American 2012/08/21 01:34:44
  • Caedus0... American 2012/08/21 03:08:42
    Caedus01 Sith Lord of the PHAET
    +3
    And so many took the bait!!! I don't recall not ONE thread on this site where a BLACK person even brought it up. Yet the go back to Africa sh!t flows from the ignoramuses that took the bait.
  • Rocky 2012/08/21 00:50:43
    None of the above
    Rocky
    +1
    I am the whitest person most people will ever see - however my father was Syrian and my mother was Austrian. Neither of them were here during the slave years. Why does the color of my skin and hair matter! Haven't we gone beyond that!
  • Bunny 2012/08/21 00:38:55
    None of the above
    Bunny
    NO!
  • Farnsworth 2012/08/20 23:59:14
    Absolutely NOT. It's ancient history being dredged-up by lowlife ambulance ch...
    Farnsworth
    +2
    my ancestors weren't even here, but regardless NO.

    If they want that, then I want all the money back on failed programs to "level" the playing field
  • Recruit 2012/08/20 23:55:08
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