They like to protect themselves from getting slammed by claiming they are moderates. They want you to think there are not Marxist Liberals.
There are many of them on this site.
It doesn’t take long to identify them. A Marxist Liberal can’t produce facts to support the party line because Marxism doesn’t work. Therefore, they can only spew accusations, fallacies, and personal attacks.
Key on “they can’t produce facts.” If they were “moderates,” sometimes they will be able to produce facts to support their political point of view but a Marxist can never produce facts to support their political point of view. It is not possible because Marxism doesn’t work!
However, they don't have any problem with lying. They will tell you they don't support Obama.
Any TRUE 'MODERATES' out there?
★Calliope★
2012/07/05 00:25:01
It seems every time I see a person with 'moderate' on their profile - LO! they are as flamingly progressively liberal as possible to be. To me a moderate would be someone that may vote Dem, may vote Repub depending on key issues. Here? Most 'moderates' are hardcore DEMS and/or Libs and or Progressives. I'd say roughly 90 percent of the 'MODERATE' folks on Soda are trying to project implied impartiality, well that perhaps, is the wrong word but not in the sense of the word...how about... middle of the road politics when in fact every stance they take is a DEM talking pointand every friend on their list is liberal or progressive or just as an ersatz 'moderate' as they are.
Is it a cover to try and sway others?
To me, Romney is a moderate. McCain is a moderate. Bill Clinton turned into a moderate. Blue Dog Dems? gads - most of those folks cave to party pressure so I don't reckon I'd call them moderate. Roberts? ((SHUDDER))
And if you listen to most of the pundits - lefties and righties consider Romney a 'moderate'.
A lot of 'Moderates' here at Sodahead sure do seem to dislike Romney and lean left to fallin' over... well... over Obama.
Ersatz. Fake... False... Counterfeit. Phony. Are they?
In my mind - once you attain the Office of the President of the United States - you'd do well to become a moderate - give and take. Cross the aisle. Not govern from hard right or hard left.
Unfortunately, Obama has been so much a far lefty - it's going to take someone with guts to dismantle his progressive social democrat fiasco.
And I apologize to REAL MODERATES - if you don't fall into the category described - don't take it on board.. If you do yell at me and piss and moan - well, it just means you didn't bother reading this far :P.
WHAT SAY YOU?
Is it a cover to try and sway others?
To me, Romney is a moderate. McCain is a moderate. Bill Clinton turned into a moderate. Blue Dog Dems? gads - most of those folks cave to party pressure so I don't reckon I'd call them moderate. Roberts? ((SHUDDER))
And if you listen to most of the pundits - lefties and righties consider Romney a 'moderate'.
A lot of 'Moderates' here at Sodahead sure do seem to dislike Romney and lean left to fallin' over... well... over Obama.
Ersatz. Fake... False... Counterfeit. Phony. Are they?
In my mind - once you attain the Office of the President of the United States - you'd do well to become a moderate - give and take. Cross the aisle. Not govern from hard right or hard left.
Unfortunately, Obama has been so much a far lefty - it's going to take someone with guts to dismantle his progressive social democrat fiasco.
And I apologize to REAL MODERATES - if you don't fall into the category described - don't take it on board.. If you do yell at me and piss and moan - well, it just means you didn't bother reading this far :P.
WHAT SAY YOU?
Much better than BO.
Shame, that.
Now I would say I am a far ass right conservative, I just do not see how any one could be a "moderate" to day you are ether a blind logic impaired bleeding heart or a freeloader both too stupid to see what is coming with socialist agenda or the evil side that expects to be part of the ruling oligarchy, and it is what is coming because socialism cannot survive in a free society. The opposition call it conservative if you wish, want freedom - not free stuff because we know there is no "free stuff". We wish to be free to pursue happiness and know the we are not entitled to it at the expense of others, And that whole concept is a FAR Right one these days. How is that open and equatable outcome promise working out? We have more hatred, corruption, and deceit than ever, along with a falling standard of living for all except the govt functionarys and their complicit minions in entertainment, news, and education.
There are many of them on this site.
It doesn’t take long to identify them. A Marxist Liberal can’t produce facts to support the party line because Marxism doesn’t work. Therefore, they can only spew accusations, fallacies, and personal attacks.
Key on “they can’t produce facts.” If they were “moderates,” sometimes they will be able to produce facts to support their political point of view but a Marxist can never produce facts to support their political point of view. It is not possible because Marxism doesn’t work!
However, they don't have any problem with lying. They will tell you they don't support Obama.
I think I'm having an honest debate, then take a look at their page and some of their comments - they are about as moderate as Mao.
Hope you and family had a nice 4th!!
Hope you did too!
And yahoo - you said it., Hard core liberals all dressed up. Exactly!
Many hard core libs consider Obama right of center.
If he were any more left - with the overreaching of government - he'd make Lenin and Mao and Tito real nervous and not a little jealous!
There are some issues, I will never lose sleep over but other Conservatives seem adamant about.
Although I think it's a front to further divide 'right' folks.
Those kind, I have no patience for them.
There is only one question. Can you produce facts to support your point of view? If you can then you are not a Marxist. Marxism doesn't work. Therefore, Marxist can't never produce facts to prove it works.
Using the term "always" and "never" is very dangerous in logic. However, it never fails with Marxist. Marxist Liberals can never produce facts to support the party line (their point of view).
Look at Obama, his lowest unemployment rate was the day he took office. The only reason that the unemployment rate is 8.2 percent and not 10 percent is that he reduced the workforce. Four million people were so discouraged they gave up looking for work.
I realize how far we will have to tack to the right to get back where we should be.
I think good fences make good neighbours and that we have an obligation to our allies around the world,and we have certain national vested interests that require military strength. .
It stands to reason if you don't have a strong military - you are open to too much outside influence and can be swayed by threat. I'd just as soon not be threatened that way. Pretty hard to succumb to threats when you can put your money where their mouth is.
Get those things straighty in your mind !
I understand that Obama is a social democrat at the 'least' and a true Marxist totalitarian near the 'most' line. Some democrats hate being called Liberal, so I can see where the 'moderate' label may fit more appropriately... But call a Moderate 'Conservative' and jeez - you'd think you used the N word.
My point is - that many 'moderates' on Sodahead are not moderates but shills for the DNC hiding behind a more innocuous title.
I'm so glad I have all you folks to clarify my thoughts.