ABC and Yahoo News call it "a dead heat" between Obama and Romney. Does Obama have a lock on the dead and brain-dead vote?

by tncdel Posted 2012/07/10 11:57:39

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	YES [explain why you think so].	36 votes	80%
	NO [explain why not].	9 votes	20%

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TruBluTopaz 2012/07/10 13:32:50

YES [explain why you think so].

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As much negative ad and talking points produced by this administration, that a sitting president can only pull even demonstrates what poor position Obama is in.
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lstl5 to Bob DiN 2012/07/11 14:58:00

Obama has give tax credits to small businesses 17 times. He has tried ot make it easier for entrapeneurs to get a start in business.
http://www.politifact.com/tru...

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Bob DiN to lstl5 2012/07/11 15:04:46

That's not entirely true but it's also a moot point. The bottom line is steady jobs are not being created and small businesses are going bankrupt. It's scary how many store front have for sale or lease signs on them.

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lstl5 to Bob DiN 2012/07/11 15:06:19

Unless we boost the middle class, this will continue.

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Bob DiN to lstl5 2012/07/11 15:12:14

I agree but I don't see that happening anytime soon. With the exception of the 50% who don't pay any income tax, Everyone is overtaxed. It's hard to support business without money in your pocket. Sadly the worst my yet ahead of us.

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lstl5 to Bob DiN 2012/07/11 15:36:32

I think businesses are waiting for the election with the hopes that Obama will go. However, I think no matter who is elected, businesses will start booming again after the election. Nothing is going to change with repulbicans in power. They want to privatize, hash over the hc bill for the 32nd time, and say no to every proposal. I am sick of it, and I hope the tea party republicans all lose their seats so we can again make progress.

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Bob DiN to lstl5 2012/07/11 15:39:46

Dump Obama and the only way is up.

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lstl5 to Bob DiN 2012/07/11 16:58:39

No--dump the tea party congress and keep Obama. Do you realize we paid 2 billion for this do nothing congress and the only time they did anything was when it was almost to the last day before a crisis hit. This has got to stop.

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Bob DiN to lstl5 2012/07/12 00:47:19

Dump Obama! The Tea Party I don't have a problem with in general.

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lstl5 to Bob DiN 2012/07/12 12:50:43

Do you know how much money the conservatives wasted trying to repeal Obamacare? 23 million dollars!!! These fake fiscal conservatives who cry about wasted money and cutting govt WASTED 23 million dollars on repealing healthcare when they knew it wasnt going to happen. They are liars and cheats...

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Bob DiN to lstl5 2012/07/12 13:12:57

Repealing Obamacare is not a waste. It's the worst legislation I've seen in over 40 years of being a legislative analyst. This monster must be eliminated at all costs.

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lstl5 to Bob DiN 2012/07/12 13:18:29

So, I guess you like going to the ER for free and expecting me to pay for you? You sound like what you accuse the libs of doing?

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Bob DiN to lstl5 2012/07/12 14:02:13

Nope I work hard and pay my own bills. Something I'd like to see the leeches of society living on the public dole do.

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lstl5 to Bob DiN 2012/07/12 14:07:05

The "leeches" as you call them, are people that work but make minimum wage. Whose fault is that? If it is the only job they can get, and take it, how can you call them leeches? You are just lucky that you have a good job and should have compassion for those who arent as lucky as you. I bet you claim to be a christian too.

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Bob DiN to lstl5 2012/07/12 14:21:50

I'm talking about those who don't work at all.

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lstl5 to Bob DiN 2012/07/12 14:24:35

In Texas, if you dont work, you dont get food stamps, maybe some housing assistance, and no medicaid. It is different in other states. I dont care about able bodied adults who refuse to work, but I do care about kids, and women who dont make enough money to pay for daycare in order to work, and that is the biggest share of people on the govt dole.

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Bob DiN to lstl5 2012/07/12 14:28:03

Those who work hard for low pay should get a hand. They also should get training for a better job if they have the IQ for it.

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lstl5 to Bob DiN 2012/07/12 16:47:42

IQ has nothing to do it, but I do think training programs would be a wonderful idea. This is another thing the republicans dont want to invest in. I worked with people who had taken many college courses and took entry level positions just so they could have a job.

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Bob DiN to lstl5 2012/07/12 22:12:40

Training is a plus for sure.

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lstl5 to Bob DiN 2012/07/12 22:15:17

Now they are trying to cut 16 billion from the food stamp program. I guess when republicans cut aid to the poor enough, then and only then, will they see what starving people will do.

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Bob DiN to lstl5 2012/07/12 22:20:27

I agree the food stamp needs trimming. I see to much abuse. A woman in front of me bought 5 lobsters and 1 porterhouse steak. It came to $154 and she paid with food stamps. Government programs smell of all types of corruption. Good intentions have unintended results.

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lstl5 to Bob DiN 2012/07/12 22:22:53 (edited)

How do you know that it was with a food stamp card? I wouldnt even know what a food stamp card looks like. If I see someone with a card, I assume it is a debit card because that is what I use.

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Bob DiN to lstl5 2012/07/13 07:22:22

Because she paid with food stamps right in front of us.

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lstl5 to Bob DiN 2012/07/13 10:36:59

And you actually saw the card? Were you right under her butt?

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Bob DiN to lstl5 2012/07/13 11:22:08

It's a not card. It's stamps in different demonations. She counted them out and paid the checkout girl right in front of all of us. Plain as day. I also have heard of other people witnessing simliar incidents.

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lstl5 to Bob DiN 2012/07/13 11:52:51 (edited)

What state are you living in? They have cards now. The purpose is so people in line dont know if you are getting food assistance. They have used cards for years.
http://savingtools.com/tips/c...
Maybe the lady actually worked there, and had some type of stamps for discount or something.

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Bob DiN to lstl5 2012/07/13 12:01:52

NY people have stamps.

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lstl5 to Bob DiN 2012/07/13 13:11:52

http://topics.nytimes.com/top...
I still think you are wrong, but anyway, yes food stamps are used on unnecessary items. For instance, if I had food stamps, I wouldnt be buying any drinks. If we are that poor, we need to drink water. I would look for the best deals and only items that would sustain from one meal to the next. The problem is that if you buy healthy foods, you money wont go very far. Fresh fruits and vegetables dont fill you up and are very expensive.

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Bob DiN to lstl5 2012/07/13 22:47:54

NY has stamps. If they are going to change to a card they haven't as 2 weeks ago. MA also uses stamps. Also John Stossel had a show about the corruption is the program.

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lstl5 to Bob DiN 2012/07/14 11:16:08

Stossel? Really? He looks for the very few that abuse the system and shows them on his show. He doesnt go to the really downtrodden places that have to survive off food stamps. Cutting food stamps not only takes money out of the economy, but will cause children to go hungry. Our congress just waste millions trying to repeal healthcare, but yet wants to cut aid to the poor. They are pathetic.

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Bob DiN to lstl5 2012/07/14 12:49:03 (edited)

The reality is the food stamp program is one of many that a full of frauld. Anything the government does is incompetent and/or corrupt. Congress has also involved in part as the appropriate the funds.

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lstl5 to Bob DiN 2012/07/14 15:25:17

It may be, but to take away from children is prepostorous and then turn around and give more money to the rich. It is sinful.

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Bob DiN to lstl5 2012/07/15 07:30:42

I have no prejudices against the rich provided they earned it legally.

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lstl5 to Bob DiN 2012/07/15 12:46:45

I dont either, and I would love to be well off, maybe not rich. I think lots of money makes people less caring and compassionate. But the worst thing is what seems to happen to really rich people. They have so many family tragedies in their lives. Stallones son just overdosed and look at the Kennedys. Maybe it is just because we hear about those things because they are famous, and maybe not.

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Bob DiN to lstl5 2012/07/15 13:08:50

With celebraties maybe so. With the Hollyweirds it's more the life style than the money.

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lstl5 to Bob DiN 2012/07/15 13:12:56

Maybe.

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Bob DiN to lstl5 2012/07/15 13:50:04

Sadly it seems to be the case to often. The Kennedy that was married to Govnernor Andrew Cuomo was just arrest for driving while under the influence of drugs.

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lstl5 to Bob DiN 2012/07/15 18:32:04

There was a Governor in Minnesota, I believe, whose daughter was found in a snow bank. I would rather have less and have my family in tact.

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Bob DiN to lstl5 2012/07/15 20:59:56

+1
Public officials are sickening nowadays.

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lstl5 to Bob DiN 2012/07/16 13:09:17

I agree.

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Bob DiN to lstl5 2012/07/16 20:26:15

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Agreed.

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