Why hasnt Noah's ark been found?
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JustMe 2012/04/25 06:58:34Noah,..noah,.doesnt ring a bell; who's that


















Just think, if they could actually find the stuff in the bible.. you know like the Phony Shroud of Turin,, or the Phony burial box of James.... and they be the real thing... Now that would be something,,,
However it seems that the most absurd the story in the bible the evidence has long been destroyed... You know like the Tablets of Moses,, HMM they were conveniently smashed,, and the Ark carrying the remakes has mysteriously dissapeared, coinvidence,,, I think not.. These things never existed, only in the minds of the men telling the fairy tale...
The wood is acacia, I believe, which is from Israel, & dates back to that time.
Besides even if they found a boat,, it does not support the story of Noah,, as physics dictates there wasnt a boat big enough,, This same story was told thousands of years before the story of noah.. Every religion has its Flood story..
It might have been possible for noah to have built a boat for his family and his few goats... Not likely though...
Jewish Encyclopedia= says it's probably a Babylonian word = gushure="smoothed (possibly planed) wood".
Wood is all that would be left of it! What do you expect would be left after 6,000 yrs?
Physics does support the design of the ark. It's what physicist you talk to....Don't talk to an atheist!
Other cultures dating back some time have a flood "story"-of course, because their was a flood, but not pre-dating the bible-got proof?
The bible is very explicit about how big Noahs Fairy tale boat was...
Any idiot can research the numbers in the bible and get how big the boat was..
I would rather listen to an atheist physicist, than a brainwashed religious zealot trying to tell me the Bilble is True..When they have no facts to back it up with....
All of the previous flood stories were as phony as the Noah Tale.. Thousands of years before,, another plagerized story by Christian interlopers to make their Fairy Tales seam plausible....
You're sidestepping the issue of the carbon dating of the pieces found, & the type of wood-6000 yr old wood, & from Israel!
I didn't say anything about the size.
If you don't want to read someone's comment, then don't, but don't put stupid, ideotic, biased comments on them. It just shows your ignorance, & bias.
Mount Ararat. The finders, led by an evangelical group, say they are "99.9 percent" that a wooden structure found on the mountainside was part of a ship that housed the Biblical Noah, his family and a menagerie of creatures during a giant flood 4,800 years ago.
But researchers who have spent decades studying the region – and fending off past claims of ark discoveries – caution that a boatload of skepticism is in order.
"You have to take everything out of context except the Bible to get something tolerable, and they're not even working much with the Bible," said Paul Zimansky, an archaeologist and historian at Stony Brook University who specializes in the Near East - and especially the region around Ararat, known as Urartu.
Cornell archaeologist Peter Ian Kuniholm, who has focused on Turkey for decades, was even more direct - saying that the reported find is a "crock."
Of Course its the Ark,, after all it was an EVANGELICAL group that says so...
For millennia, countless people have been taught that there was a real man named Noah who somehow piled two (Gen ...
Mount Ararat. The finders, led by an evangelical group, say they are "99.9 percent" that a wooden structure found on the mountainside was part of a ship that housed the Biblical Noah, his family and a menagerie of creatures during a giant flood 4,800 years ago.
But researchers who have spent decades studying the region – and fending off past claims of ark discoveries – caution that a boatload of skepticism is in order.
"You have to take everything out of context except the Bible to get something tolerable, and they're not even working much with the Bible," said Paul Zimansky, an archaeologist and historian at Stony Brook University who specializes in the Near East - and especially the region around Ararat, known as Urartu.
Cornell archaeologist Peter Ian Kuniholm, who has focused on Turkey for decades, was even more direct - saying that the reported find is a "crock."
Of Course its the Ark,, after all it was an EVANGELICAL group that says so...
For millennia, countless people have been taught that there was a real man named Noah who somehow piled two (Gen 6:19) - or seven (Gen 7:2), depending on which scripture in the "infallible Word of God" one reads - of every animal on the planet into an ark and with his family survived an enormous global flood. Obviously, to thinkers worldwide this story is logically to be considered an impossible fable, not history.
Over the centuries, many people have tried and failed to find evidence for this implausible tale, largely looking around a mountain in Turkey called Ararat. This quest began hundreds of years ago and pops up in the news periodically, including several times in the 20th and 21st centuries, such as with the Noah's Ark Ministries brouhaha of 2010. At that time, it was claimed that a "wooden structure" was found at about 13,000 feet up Mt. Ararat and had been carbon-dated to around 4,800 years ago, reflecting a "99.9% certainty" it was the "real" ark. Skeptics and Christian evangelists alike soon dissected that claim, as they had so many others in the past.
As noted, ark-hunting is not a new phenomena. Well over a hundred years ago, The Dictionary of the Holy Bible stated in its entry regarding "Ararat": "It has been affirmed, that there are still remains of Noah's ark on the top of this mountain; but M. de Tournefort, who visited the spot, assures us that there was nothing like it..." The Dictionary (89) also tells us that there are many monasteries on the mountain, of which any wood or wooden structure may be a part.
In addition to this plethora of purported "real arks" raising our suspicions are a number of scientific reasons to doubt the reality of any such alleged discovery, including arguments against a global or even local flood and the subsequent dispersion of all human and animal life from Mt. Ararat.
Also, although many such "ark" relics have been located on Mt. Ararat in Turkey, it has been pointed out even by Christian conservatives that "Noah's Ark is not said to have rested on 'Mount Ararat,'" the Bible actually stating that the Ark came to land on the "mountains of Ararat." (Gen 8:4).
It should be noted further that it was a custom, in Scotland for one, to create stone "ships" on mounts in emulation possibly of the sea-burial customs of royalty or of a mythical motif revolving around astrotheology, such that any number of these "arks" may be discovered on Earth.
Another problem with the biblical tradition is that Noah, the man who supposedly built this big boat, was some 600 years old at the time! (Gen 7:6) Nor do we find any logic in the all-powerful God of the universe asking a frail old man to construct such a thing when He could simply have snapped his fingers and, rather than flooding the entire earth, made all the bad people disappear. Instead, the Lord slaughters millions of innocent animals! And then there's the nonsensical follow-up tale where Noah gets drunk and is seen naked by his son Ham, who rats him out to his brothers, an act that so infuriates the hungover patriarch that he curses Ham's son Canaan for all eternity (Gen 9:21-25), causing an enormous amount of racism and suffering based on a pernicision biblical fable.
Ancient flood and ark myths common
Rather than being a historical figure who was the progenitor of three races, Noah is a fictitious character found in the mythologies of a number of different cultures globally, as opposed to being limited to one area and its specific peoples. The Bible story represents a rehash of other myths, changed to revolve around these particular peoples.
Like other biblical tales, the myth of Noah is found in India, Egypt, Babylon, Sumer and other places. The fact is that there have been floods and deluge stories in many different parts of the world, including but not limited to the Middle East. In the Sumerian tale, which predated the biblical by thousands of years, the ark was built by Ziusudra; in Akkad, he was Atrakhasis, and in Babylon, Uta-Napisthim. The Greek Noah was called Deucalion, "who repopulated the earth after the waters subsided" and after the ark landed on Mt. Parnassos. The Armenian flood hero was called Xisuthros, "whose ark landed on Mt. Ararat." Noah's "history" can likewise be found in India, where there is a "tomb of Nuh" near the river Gagra in the district of Oude or Oudh, which may be related to Judea and Judah. The "ark-preserved" Indian Noah was also called "Menu."
Like Noah, the Sumero-Armenian Ziusudra/Xisuthros had three sons, including one named "Japetosthes," essentially the same as Noah's son Japheth, also related to Pra-japati or Jvapeti, son of the Indian Menu, whose other sons possessed virtually the same names as those of Noah, i.e., Shem and Ham. As Oxford University Hebrew professor George Henry Bateson Wright says in Was Israel ever in Egypt? (51):
JAPHETH - Ewald...shows, with great probability, that this was a god of the north, as Ham was of the south, once again in imitation of Hindu mythology. Moreover, the fact, that in the Armenian legend, derived from "Assyrian or Babylonian documents," the three sons of Xisuthros, who corresponds to Noah, are Zervin, Titan, and Japetosthe, is very instructive, suggesting that the unknown foreign word was retained in its original form...
"Coincidentally," it was said that the Egyptian god Osiris was shut up in his ark on the very same day that Noah was likewise so disposed, as I relate in Suns of God (90):
When Osiris's enemies pursue him, he enters into his "boat" on precisely the same date recorded of "Noah's" entrance into his ark, Athyr 17th...long before the biblical tale was invented. Noah is not a Jewish "patriarch" but a sun god, and the tale of entering and exiting the Ark signifies the sun's death and resurrection. The story of the eight passengers in a boat is an astral myth, reflecting the solar system. These eight are equivalent to the Egyptian octet of gods, who sail the ocean in a ship.
Also of interest in this quest are the words attributed to the Babylonian priest Berossus, who described the Flood, giving it a much older date:
The Babylonian Flood itself predates the biblical by about 33,000 years, which demonstrates that the two inundations do not reflect one "historical" flood. Nevertheless, the story of Xisuthras or Ziusudra, the Babylonian Flood king, matches the later biblical account of Noah in important details, a common develoipment with myths. Berossus is even recorded as stating that Ziusudra's ship landed "in the mountains of the Korduaians of Armenia," possibly the Kurdistans, located in the same area where ark-hunters have claimed to have found pieces of "Noah's ark." This story, however, is not historical, and the creation of stone "arks" or ships upon hills was more common than is realized. Moreover, the Noah tale can be found in Mexican mythology: The Mexican Noah is named Nata, while his wife is Nena. In the Indian mythology, in the reign of the "seventh Manu," Satyavrata, the "whole earth" is said to "have been destroyed by a flood, including all mankind, who had beome corrupt." The prince and seven rishis, along with their wives, survived by entering a "spacious vessel," "by command of Vishnu...accompanied by pairs of all animals. (Acharya, Suns of God, 43-44)
Rather than having happened on Earth - a cataclysmic event for which there is no solid, scientific evidence - the story of Noah's Ark actually takes place in the heavens, as Noah and his crew of seven represent the sun, moon, earth and five inner planets. Obviously, Noah's famous "ark," which misguided souls have sought upon the earth, is a motif found in other myths, representing the arc-shaped lower quarter
A different scientist in the group said "Nothing in nature could create such a symmetrical shape-a ship-like object that has almost unbroken symmetry."
Ron Wyatt began in1977 to begin recording his findings. "The ark rests upon Cudi Dagi Mt. which is translated "Doomsday Mt" about 15 miles south of Mt.Ararat. It's 6,375 ft above sea level. The site is also immediately below the Mt.of Al Judi, named in the Qur'an as the resting place of the Ark". Houd Sura 11:44
The ark is 515 ft.long, or 300 Egyptian cubits, which Moses, who was brought up & schooled in Egypt, would have known-he was also the writer of Genesis. The Hebrew cubit, was not yet invented.
There are vertical rib timbers on it's sides, comprising the skeletal superstructure of a boat. Regular patterns of horizontal & vertical deck support beams are also seen on the deck of the ark.
Occupied ancient village at the ark site at 6,5000 ft. elevation, matching the 90AD. statement of Flavius Josephus "Its remains are sho...
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A different scientist in the group said "Nothing in nature could create such a symmetrical shape-a ship-like object that has almost unbroken symmetry."
Ron Wyatt began in1977 to begin recording his findings. "The ark rests upon Cudi Dagi Mt. which is translated "Doomsday Mt" about 15 miles south of Mt.Ararat. It's 6,375 ft above sea level. The site is also immediately below the Mt.of Al Judi, named in the Qur'an as the resting place of the Ark". Houd Sura 11:44
The ark is 515 ft.long, or 300 Egyptian cubits, which Moses, who was brought up & schooled in Egypt, would have known-he was also the writer of Genesis. The Hebrew cubit, was not yet invented.
There are vertical rib timbers on it's sides, comprising the skeletal superstructure of a boat. Regular patterns of horizontal & vertical deck support beams are also seen on the deck of the ark.
Occupied ancient village at the ark site at 6,5000 ft. elevation, matching the 90AD. statement of Flavius Josephus "Its remains are shown there by the inhabitants to this day."
Dr.Bill Shea, an archeologist found an ancient pottery sherd within 20 yrds of the ark which ha a carving on it that depicts a bird, a fish, & a man with
a hammer, wearing a headress that has the name "Noah" on it. In ancient times these items were created by the locals to sell to visitors. The ark was a tourist attraction in ancient times.
Official notice of the ark's discovery appeared in Turkey's largest newspaper 6.21.1987. The Turkish Gov't double verified Mr.Wyatt's tests, & gave him credit for the discovery, & classified the ark a "national treasure".
Huge anchor stones were found near the ark & in the village Kazan-15 miles away, which hung off the rear of the ark to steady it.
Radar scans show a regular pattern of timbers inside the ark formation, revealing keels, keelsons, gunnels, bulkheads, animal chambers, ramp system, door in right front, 2 large barrels in front 14'x24' section, & an open center area for air flow to all 3 levels.
Ancient man-made metals were verified-physicists confirming iron, & other metals, used for fittings etc.
The monasteries totally different than the ancient wood found, & carbon dated to 6,000+ yrs ago.
Gen 8:4 The Mountains of Ararat you used to try to disprove, actually prove exactly what the Bible said is true.
Noah was not feeble. Methuselah was 969 yrs. old when he died. He was the grandfather of Noah. God delayed the flood for the 7 days of mourning for Methuselah. God could have done anything he wanted to, because of the evilness of the entire world, but God chose the flood, but afterward He gave us the promise that he would never again destroy the world by flood, & gave us the rainbow to be a sign of his promise.
Archeology has proven hundreds of Bible prophecies, that were given centuries before the fulfillment of them. There's books on this subject.
All the other countries you mentioned were considered pagan by the Israelites. They came up with their version of the flood, no doubt to impress the followers of their pagan deities, to gain prestige.
Shem, Ham, & Japheth-the sons of Noah, & their wives, reproduced, & from them the populations of the world began to be re-established.
I am out of time, but have much more proof on the subject.
Oh yea.. the EXPERTS have yet to find any metal,, that would have been used to to hold the ship,,, Whats that, He used Super Glue..
And why would this God take a 400 year old dude that took 200 years to build this boat, when all this God would have to do is snap his fingers...
Do you still believe in the tooth fairy???
Your problem is that you base all your premise on you not believing it could be possible-that's where you're wrong, & miss.
I't considered by the experts to be the Ark, because of the divided sections, your "experts" are calling it a building.....
God chose to do it his way, not our way. Or your way.
I was the archaeologist with the Chinese expedition in the summer of 2008 and was given photos of what they now are reporting to be the inside of the Ark. I and my partners invested $100,000 in this expedition (described below) which they have retained, despite their promise and our requests to return it, since it was not used for the expedition. The information given below is my opinion based on what I have seen and heard (from others who claim to have been eyewitnesses or know the exact details).
To make a long story short: this is all reported to be a fake. The photos were reputed to have been taken off site near the Black Sea, but the film footage the Chinese now have was shot on location on Mt. Ararat. In the late summer of 2008 ten Kurdish workers hired by Parasut, the guide used by the Chinese, are said to have planted large wood beams taken from an old structure in the Black Sea area (where the photos were originally taken) at the Mt. Ararat site. In the winter of 2008 a Chinese climber taken by Parasut's men to the site saw the wood, but couldn't get inside because of the severe weather conditions. During the summer of 2009 more wood was planted inside a cave at the site. The Chinese team w...
I was the archaeologist with the Chinese expedition in the summer of 2008 and was given photos of what they now are reporting to be the inside of the Ark. I and my partners invested $100,000 in this expedition (described below) which they have retained, despite their promise and our requests to return it, since it was not used for the expedition. The information given below is my opinion based on what I have seen and heard (from others who claim to have been eyewitnesses or know the exact details).
To make a long story short: this is all reported to be a fake. The photos were reputed to have been taken off site near the Black Sea, but the film footage the Chinese now have was shot on location on Mt. Ararat. In the late summer of 2008 ten Kurdish workers hired by Parasut, the guide used by the Chinese, are said to have planted large wood beams taken from an old structure in the Black Sea area (where the photos were originally taken) at the Mt. Ararat site. In the winter of 2008 a Chinese climber taken by Parasut's men to the site saw the wood, but couldn't get inside because of the severe weather conditions. During the summer of 2009 more wood was planted inside a cave at the site. The Chinese team went in the late summer of 2009 (I was there at the time and knew about the hoax) and was shown the cave with the wood and made their film. As I said, I have the photos of the inside of the so-called Ark (that show cobwebs in the corners of rafters - something just not possible in these conditions) and our Kurdish partner in Dogubabyazit (the village at the foot of Mt. Ararat) has all of the facts about the location, the men who planted the wood, and even the truck that transported it.
A similar phenomenon took place in Paluxy River, Texas. Some creationists find fossil footprints that look vaguely (to the biased eye) human, pretty soon a flood of evangelical Christians are searching the area for confirmation, and very quickly, the locals, being no dummies and seeing a tourism goldmine, start carving up even better footprints.
You can hardly blame the Turks around Ararat. There's a lot of money being poured into the local economy from these numerous creationist expeditions. It only makes sense to salt a few sites with chunks of wood.
All the pictures of 1959 show are some rocks, that were shoved around and a big groove was cut into the ground by the Lava Flow.. There is No evidence at that site that even comes close to proving there was an
Ark there...
If they found the Ark , Then why in the hell are they still looking for it? Guess what.. MONEY.....
Here's what the New Testament says about the ark, or Noah:
1-Jesus believed it: Matthew 24:37-39 "But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be..."
2- Apostle Paul believed it: Hebrews 11:7 "By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith."
I Peter 3:20 " Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water."
2 Peter 2:5 "And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;"
And you think the radar scans that show a regular pattern of timbers, & all I listed are a hoax.....
I believe the experts I have read, & most of all, the Bible, but I am not dependent on whether or not the ark is there (not on Mt. Ararat, but 15 miles south, which is not where it sounds like you went, because people who refuse to believe any thing about God, have less judgment I guess, if they don't see any "proofs'. Like you-you wouldn't believe anyway, right?
The point of the wood's origin is exactly what should show you the truth. The wood didn't originate in Turkey, so how come it's on top of the mountain? It originated from Israel, so how did it get there on top of the mt. in 4000 BC?
Then you also CONVENIENTLY try to say physics don't support the size of the ark.
WRONG again. Picking & choosing gets you in trouble-just like compulsive lyers who can't remember what lie they've used.
Oh Golly, a dumbell! Maybe if you got whacked along side your head with one of those 6000 yr old pieces of BOARD, you'd get smarter!
http://www.arkdiscovery.com/n...
Thanks... Great infomercial!!
But I am not buying the DVD, Saving up for a trip to Africa and a nice red Solo cup filled with Ice cold Kool aid and a ride on the Halley comet flying saucer .
in search of another life sustaining planet..
http://www.washingtonpost.com...
or it has already totally disintegrated...
or it has been found and is now guarded and housed in secret by that secret society of high priests you see in movies and read about in conspiracy books......
or its been re-purposed and used in rebuilding cities destroyed with fire and brimstone & floods after the waters receded. (Meteor showers & Tsunamis )....
or it never really existed.
http://bit.ly/Jru0KZ
Cheers and have an awesome, what ever,,LOL