Who should play Superman?
Tom Welling 4 Superman
October 19, 2010 05:05:43
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Ok I know my top choice is Tom Welling, and I HATED Singerman Returns.
I know people who know Brandon Routh, and know he's a very nice guy, and all that jazz but guess what? The movies he's done have all sucked, and his version of a water down Reeve Superman was horrific.
I never want to see him in another Superman movie as long as I live, and will boycott the movie if he's indeed hired for the role.
So that's how I feel about Brandon Routh, and his version of Singer...Superman.
Tom Welling is my top choice because he simply embodies the character like no actor I have ever seen since Chris Reeve.
He is this generations Superman, and after 10 seasons of playing Clark Kent on Smallville it's time the fans who stayed loyal, and love the show are rewarded with a big screen send off where we get to see our generations Superman actually take flight, and in a movie directed by Zack Snyder, and produced by Chris Nolan.
How can we go wrong if we the fans are given that trio of Nolan/Snyder/Welling? That is pure boxoffice gold folks.
I know I will see this movie 10 times in theaters myself... Anyway now you guys pick who would you like to see in the movie?
Tom Welling or Brandon Routh?
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Brandon Routh is this generations George Lazenby.
As long as Billy Zane is Lex Luthor, any of the two can be Superman.
He is this generations Superman... To cast anyone other then him would be a total slap in the face to the fans, and to the show, and to the character of Superman.
Each generation should have their own Superman, and he's the Superman of this current generation, and again you cannot make a good Superman movie without Superman in it no matter who you cast if it's not Tom Welling right now it will flop.
We the fans were vocal years ago about Singerman Returns, and they wouldn't listen... The movie flopped, and now I just hope they listen if they want to get it right.
Routh is a good actor. He CAN pull off Superman. It was Singer's directing and writing that turned SR into something lackluster. That, and he doesn't have as much baggage as Welling.
Welling is also a good actor. He can also pull off Superman. However, he has more baggage than Routh. Smallville is still going on, increasing the baggage with every episode, while SR premiered over four years ago.
Routh over Welling because Routh didn't get a fair chance and he doesn't have nearly as much baggage as Smallville.
Also he's teamed with the best Lois Lane the screen has ever seen, and the best LEX this or any generation has ever seen on screen.
Brandon Routh on the other hand has been in only movies which have flopped, and is seen as box office cancer by many.
His only time up as Superman the movie sucked, and he was major part of the reason why... People blame Singer, and his writers, and yes they thought up a horrible movie but notice how little lines Brandon had in the movie? That's because A LOT of the script was re worked when they found out he couldn't act, and there were scenes which were scrapped after the daily's came in because he was so bad of an actor.
Sorry just because the guy looks sorta kinda like Chris Reeve doesn't cut it for me...
Can you Explain to me why Routh is box office cancer when Superman Returns was a hit. You may not like it but the numbers were great.
A lot of the script was reworked because Routh couldn't act? lol Lets stop making things up people.
Should we blame Welling and the rest of the cast for Smallville's decline in viewers since season 5? Ofcourse not. Its ridiculous writing that involves Tess mercer and countless episodes that have nothing to do with Clark Kent/Superman that sway fans from the show.
So now how is that different from Routh in Superman Returns??? Exactly. Bring Routh back.
World Wide it did better, but it did not live up to the expectations. And Routh's acting was not great in the movie just in my opinion.
And with Smallville, the last season is getting a large increase in viewers. It is up to almost 3.5 million which is strong for a Friday night show.
They casted Routh because he had a strong resemblance to Reeves. In my opinion, Reeves was not the smartest choice for Superman. If you read the comics, Superman is much bulkier and more tough. These two stars did not fit either of those.
And the new Superman movie is starting from the beginning. Why would they hire someone they used in the past movies? They want a fresh start with the movies, similar to how they are doing the new Spiderman movies. You don't see Toby Maguire getting the new Spiderman role do you?
And Wellings looks way more like Superman from the comics then Routh. Plus he already has a large fan base wanting him for the role so that would be a plus for him.
World Wide it did better, but it did not live up to the expectations. And Routh's acting was not great in the movie just in my opinion.
And with Smallville, the last season is getting a large increase in viewers. It is up to almost 3.5 million which is strong for a Friday night show.
They casted Routh because he had a strong resemblance to Reeves. In my opinion, Reeves was not the smartest choice for Superman. If you read the comics, Superman is much bulkier and more tough. These two stars did not fit either of those.
And the new Superman movie is starting from the beginning. Why would they hire someone they used in the past movies? They want a fresh start with the movies, similar to how they are doing the new Spiderman movies. You don't see Toby Maguire getting the new Spiderman role do you?
And Wellings looks way more like Superman from the comics then Routh. Plus he already has a large fan base wanting him for the role so that would be a plus for him.
With Smallville, I wasn't talking about the final season and i clearly stated that. Season 9 Featured Zod through the whole season and did not live up to expectations. In my opinion, it is the worse of all the seasons and the #s showed it with averages of 1.5-2 mil.
Routh is a good actor and definitely looks the part. With Snyder and Nolan by his side he will do much better. Bulkier? Don't you know that actors lose and gain weight all the time for roles. I'm pretty sure if Snyder asked Routh to put on some muscle for this Superman film, you would even think he's perfect for the role.
Put Welling in Superman Returns and nothing will change. But maybe excuses from us Smallville fans.
Your right, the New Superman movie is starting from the beginning and want a fresh start. So how would Tom Welling, the guy who's been CK for 10 years be a fresh start? Your Maguire/Routh comparison makes no sense. Maguire was in 3 HUGE Spiderman movies and became an A-lister. Their is still little known about Routh.
Honestly, i don't think any of them will be in the new Superman because of their history with the character. I believe Nolan and Snyder will take a different route. Either way i think they'll do a great job.
And Welling is only known to the world as Clark Kent from Smallville he's relatively unknown other wise but has a major following because of the show, and believe me after the debacle that was Singerman Returns the WB want's to make money with the next movie, and using Tom Welling is the most logical choice if they want a big boxoffice draw... You put this generations Superman in a movie with Nolan/Snyder and people will show up many times over to watch this movie.
Routh was horrible in his 1 movie, and should never be in another Superman movie.
Tom Welling is Superman!
Putting Welling in the film would be a continuation from Smallville to the big screen and even though ppl are smart enough to know it's not, thats the way they will see it. But the problem with that is that Welling's CK is very different from the comics and movies, so it'll be too weird.
But atleast with Routh, since Nolan/Snyder want to start from the beginning, ppl can see it as some what of a prequel.
Routh was not horrible at all. The only problem was that it was almost identical to Reeve's version. But that was all Singer's doing. With Nolan/Snyder's direction, Routh will do great.
Real or clone, it did not live up to it's expectations. I still remember the finale where Zod was free and Tess was looking over him. SOO many ppl were excited and couldn't wait to see what was going to happen. After the following finale, SOO many ppl were dissapointed in the season and many writers named it the shows worst season.
The comment which I replied to had nothing to do with Zod or season 9. You state that the show has lost viewers since season 5. Which is true but the point I was making is that it is doing much better this season.
Routh is a decent actor. About his bulkiness, he wasn't bulky in Superman Returns so I doubt he would get more bulky for this new reboot. And I wouldn't think he was perfect for the role either.
Tom Welling was on a show, not the movie. Theirs a large difference. Routh was in the last Superman movie. Obviously, they didn't want to continue with that Superman franchise due to Routh as Superman, scripting, or whatever reason. So why would they put Routh into the new franchise. Welling would be a fresh face because he hasn't been in a superhero movie. Just a show. And you were complaining about the small amount of viewers eariler so barely anyone would noticed his baggage. But whatever, I personally think they shouldn't pick Routh Or Wel...
The comment which I replied to had nothing to do with Zod or season 9. You state that the show has lost viewers since season 5. Which is true but the point I was making is that it is doing much better this season.
Routh is a decent actor. About his bulkiness, he wasn't bulky in Superman Returns so I doubt he would get more bulky for this new reboot. And I wouldn't think he was perfect for the role either.
Tom Welling was on a show, not the movie. Theirs a large difference. Routh was in the last Superman movie. Obviously, they didn't want to continue with that Superman franchise due to Routh as Superman, scripting, or whatever reason. So why would they put Routh into the new franchise. Welling would be a fresh face because he hasn't been in a superhero movie. Just a show. And you were complaining about the small amount of viewers eariler so barely anyone would noticed his baggage. But whatever, I personally think they shouldn't pick Routh Or Welling. We need a different actor to play to role.
And my Toby Maguire/Routh comparison did make sense. You took it out of context. I will explain it the simplest way I know how so maybe you will understand it. Toby was in 3 Spiderman movies. They decided to restart the whole spiderman franchise. They wanted a fresh face to restart the series. Therefore their not going to pick Toby to play Spiderman again in the new franchise. His time is up. Like Routh.
So if you agree that the show lost viewers since season 5 and i wasn't talking about season 10, then where is this argument coming from? The final season is really good so far and i'm happy with where they are going with it.
Show or Movie doesn't matter. Smallville is huge and everyone knows Welling's face and who he's been the past decade. Welling pretty much had only one role his entire career. What i'm trying to say is that casting him in the film with a different Lois, Lex, etc. would be stupid and wouldn't feel right and would have to cast the rest of the shows characters and that right their is not what you would call a fresh start. Something YOU said the film needs.
I see what your saying with Maguire/Routh. But Welling isnt a fresh face either. Films and shows are different but the impact on people is the same.
You brought up the viewers on Smallville, not me.
I did say the movie needs a fresh start. But Welling would be more of a fresh start then Routh. And I would rather see Welling with different Lex's and Louis'. I personally don't like Louis on the show.
Smallville loses ratings with every episode. It's still going as well. Every episode adds more and more baggage and garbage to Wellings plate when they're picking the Superman for Nolans film.
Routh, on the other hand, only has one film under his belt, and he was one of the best things about that film. Routh, save a few critics (the only one I've actually heard about was Roger Ebert) and Welling fans, was well recieved AND he doesn't have more trash heaped onto his reputation as Superman every week.
Routh would be the fresher choice, but fresher still would be a new face. Even then, it all comes down to sheer ability.
Basing it LOOSELY. It's not tight to it. Honestly, this shows 'different side' was for me character derailment. Does Clark occasionally make mistakes? Yes. Is Clark supposed to be passed the mistakes-heavy (not mistakes free) era of his career when he get's out of Highschool? Yes. Is he in Smallville? No. Has Superman ALWAYS wanted to be out in the open with his powers and helping people in the comics? Yes. Has he in Smallville? No.
In the comics, Clark is the disguise, with Superman being the real person. Having a story about his disguise, espescially at this stage where he's IN METROPOLIS and ENGAGED TO LOIS when he should be IN TIGHTS at THIS STAGE IN HIS CAREER but isn't is character derailment. That's not Superman OR Clark Kent.
(Back on Topic) Welling and Routh are both critisized, but Welling is the more recognizable face, if you ask on the internet. It WOULD be fresher to have Routh due to his last outing being four years ago. Welling's last outing was last week. Welling is not a 'fresh face' that the 'directors are looking for'.
And I don't think you understand that the movie is a restarting the whole film because they did not like the way the franchise was going. So why would they pick the superman from the last film that they didn't even bother to go on with?
And yes we see Welling every week. But as I have said 3461346436 times, as CLARK KENT. NOT SUPERMAN.
Last thing we saw Routh in was SUPERMAN.
Sorry but if the movie was called Clark Kent, Routh would be a better pick. But the movie is Superman. Welling has yet to play that part so he would be more of a 'fresh face.'
#2: He's a good actor.
#3: Clark Kent, Superman, in this show, there IS NO FRIGGAN DIFFERENCE RIGHT NOW. He's saving people. He's wearing the friggan 'S'. Whether or not he's out in the open is irrelevant because this show doesn't adapt right from the comics, remember?
#4: He's played it for ten years...
So I can't really comment on Tom being Superman in the last 3 seasons but in seasons 1 - 7, he is Clark, not Superman.
BUT, before you say they are the same, you know more about the newer seasons then I do, so maybe he is basically Superman now.
And honestly, this is all a matter of opinion. You like Routh, I prefer Tom.
All I know is I would prefer Routh then some of the current people they are talking about casting for the new movie, such as Armie Hammer, Joe Manganiello, or any of them.
Who do you suggest besides Routh?
And to be honest, I don't MIND the thought of Welling getting the part. I just don't like how some people support him because he's 'fresher' and put Routh down because of it. :/
I think Matthew Bomer would be pretty good. He looks the part in my opinion.
The main question is: Can he act?
I will have to watch an episode to see if he can act but so far he has my vote.
Yes, i brought up the viewers on Smallville and the point was their declining and have been since season 5.
But anyway, i see your other choices for Superman and their pretty good. Whoever they choose i just feel Jim Caviezel should be Jor-El.
The movie made 150Million in two weeks then it took it almost 9months to make the last 50million.
But the numbers were not great actually they were down right terribe when the production budget is 270million that means the movie needs to bring in almost 550million world wide just so it breaks even.
Why you ask? Well because theaters, and studios share the revenue of each movie 50% each, and given that fact this movie brought in 398million world wide.
In other words it never broke even or turned a profit... This was mostly due to the lack of fan support for Routh, the Suit, and the directing.
The movie sucked in all aspects, and it got the public annoyed, and mostly turned people off.
Why would you want to bring back anyone associated with a movie which killed a franchise?
That would be like asking Arnold to ...
The movie made 150Million in two weeks then it took it almost 9months to make the last 50million.
But the numbers were not great actually they were down right terribe when the production budget is 270million that means the movie needs to bring in almost 550million world wide just so it breaks even.
Why you ask? Well because theaters, and studios share the revenue of each movie 50% each, and given that fact this movie brought in 398million world wide.
In other words it never broke even or turned a profit... This was mostly due to the lack of fan support for Routh, the Suit, and the directing.
The movie sucked in all aspects, and it got the public annoyed, and mostly turned people off.
Why would you want to bring back anyone associated with a movie which killed a franchise?
That would be like asking Arnold to come back to the BATMAN series as Mr Freeze!
But you ask why is he a cancer? Well every movie he has ever been in has been a flop... Each one of them.
None of his movies has ever turned the studio a profit, and not to mention that SR had terrible sales numbers on dvd also!!! The only thing that saved it was that it got packaged with the other Superman movies in the box set but even that showed only sold due to the other movies.
Now let's look at the show "Chuck" which was having great ratings, and a large fan following early on then he gets on the cast, and now there are reports that it might be canceled! hmmmm The curse of the Routh strikes again!
Oh, and so like I said he's box office cancer...
Bring back Routh??? Then bring on a back-lash from Superman fans and another Box Office flop.
Oh and you also go on about Smallville's decline in viewers since season 5? If this was the case, then please tell me how the show has lasted until Season 10 as a show with declining ratings is usually cancelled?
Yes, bring Routh back. He CAN act and with Nolan and Snyder he can be a great Superman. Put Welling in Superman Returns and nothing will change and you can't deny that.
Smallville's seasons 1-5 had an average of 4-6 million, seasons 6-8 averaged 2.5-3 million and season 9 averaged 1.5-2 million. Now even though these are declining #s, 1.5-2 million views is still a whole lot for a t.v series. Me personally, i've never missed a live episode and i'm a huge fan. But this is Superman not Smallville.