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Emmett_luver! 2009/06/29 18:15:47
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  • A Person 2009/08/29 17:20:22
    Harry Potter!!
    A Person
    +8
    Okay, in the end, it all comes down to three things.

    1. Plot/Idea

    OK, J.K. Rowling's idea of wizardry wasn't her idea, and vampires weren't Stephenie Meyer's idea either. But when it comes to plot, Harry Potter wins. The world in Harry Potter is so detailed and intricate. Yes, we know it's not real. But it feels real, it seems as if it could be real. The setting of Twilight was just some random place Stephenie Meyer probably picked using "Eenie, Meenie, Miny, Mo." Twilight's plot was extremely predictable. My friend told her aunt the basic plot of Twilight, and then she practically guessed the rest of the entire series correctly. Harry Potter's plot is much more complex. Yes, it was predictable that Voldemort would lose, but there was hundreds of other things that caused uncertainty. All four Twilight books are basically the same. Bella gets in trouble, Edward comes and saves her, the vampires win, and everybody lives happily ever after. The same plot, repeatedly used over and over again. Harry Potter also kind of had the same plot (Harry Potter vs. Voldemort), but it had immensely different subplots in each book that made it UNIQUE from the other books.

    2. Characters

    The characters in Harry Potter are "round characters." Meaning, they are as complex to describe as a perso...



    Okay, in the end, it all comes down to three things.

    1. Plot/Idea

    OK, J.K. Rowling's idea of wizardry wasn't her idea, and vampires weren't Stephenie Meyer's idea either. But when it comes to plot, Harry Potter wins. The world in Harry Potter is so detailed and intricate. Yes, we know it's not real. But it feels real, it seems as if it could be real. The setting of Twilight was just some random place Stephenie Meyer probably picked using "Eenie, Meenie, Miny, Mo." Twilight's plot was extremely predictable. My friend told her aunt the basic plot of Twilight, and then she practically guessed the rest of the entire series correctly. Harry Potter's plot is much more complex. Yes, it was predictable that Voldemort would lose, but there was hundreds of other things that caused uncertainty. All four Twilight books are basically the same. Bella gets in trouble, Edward comes and saves her, the vampires win, and everybody lives happily ever after. The same plot, repeatedly used over and over again. Harry Potter also kind of had the same plot (Harry Potter vs. Voldemort), but it had immensely different subplots in each book that made it UNIQUE from the other books.

    2. Characters

    The characters in Harry Potter are "round characters." Meaning, they are as complex to describe as a person in real life. The characters in Twilight are "flat characters", meaning that they are described without much individualizing detail, and can be basically summed up in about 2 sentences. The characters in Harry Potter went through radical change and developed as the series progressed. The characters in Twilight basically remained the same throughout the entire series. Bella remained whiny and selfish. Her becoming a mother didn't even change that fact. The only change I see in Edward is that he finally conquers his urge to eat Bella. And that's basically it. The rest of the Cullens had no personality whatsoever, and their personalities were unrealistic. You can't relate to any of the characters in Twilight.

    3. Realism & Message

    Yes, Harry Potter contains magic and Twilight contains "vampires", so technically, one of them can't be more realistic then the other. Well, wrong. Harry Potter was much more realistic.Obviously, In the end Harry and his friends are more relatable, more real. Though throughout the Twilight books, when Bella was human everything she did came with a price, a choice. However by the end of the fourth book, all the characters are immortal, no one lost anything. Yes Bella will lose both her parents but she expected that she made that choice. However EVERYONE lives, only one character dies by the end of the fourth book, and Bella only met her once. Harry Potter is the better series because of more developed characters, both stories are equally moving and captivating too say the least, but because after reading Harry Potter one feels human. Characters you love die, things that seemed impossible finally happen, the good guys win, for the time being. It on a level, though competely fictitious, it is real because in life you lose people you love, sometimes you catch a break sometimes you don't and the world is always in a constant struggle of good versus evil, going on a small hiatus every now and again. But by the end of Twilight, all the characters are alive, Rosalie, Emmett, Carlisle, Esme, Bella, Edward, Jasper, Alice, Renesmee, Jacob, and none of them are ever going to die because they are all immortal, they didn't win the fight against the evil Voltouri because the big battle, never happened, and in the end minimal sacrifices were made, everyone ended up happy without the loss of ANYthing. Yes, they were vampires so they are supposed to live forever, but that doesn't mean everything always pans out because no one's life is that perfect, not even for an immortal perfectly beautiful creature. Thus Harry Potter is the better series, not because of just character, plot, theme, no nothing like that, though Harry Potter does trump Twilight there also. Harry Potter is the better series because it is honest with its readers, sending a simple message, nothing in life is perfect live it to your fullest and be the best person you can, spread as much love and hope as possible and fight for what you know is right, because in the end, though you may loose things or people in the process good does triumph over evil, even though to earn that good thing sacrifices must be made, it will be okay, you aren't perfect and you don't have to be. Twilight sends the message that stalking, abuse, suicide, and teen pregnancy is okay, and that males are the superior sex (but the sexism in Twilight is an entirely different discussion). Anyway, when you are reading fiction, yes, it doesn't have to be realistic, unless the intent of the author was to make it realistic. Which it was seeing as it was set in a normal high school setting and Stephenie Meyer professes that Bella is an average girl, a realistic girl. And I'm not saying that to love something, characters need to die, however as a writer you get attached to your characters, SM got so attached in fact she completely departed from any realm of realism and gave them a perfect cookie cutter happily ever after. This isn’t realistic. Bella was supposed to have all these sacrifices she was willing to make to be with Edward, well guess what after she became undeniably perfect, even more perfect then the other perfect vampires in the world, she got everything and anything she wanted, perfect. No sacrifices no nothing anything and everything she could ever want. SM had created a realistic world and then departed from that reality, which isn't meant to happen.
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  • RoboLady 2010/08/01 11:37:29
    Harry Potter!!
    RoboLady
    Anybody ever notice Robert Pattinson was in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire?
  • ina 2010/07/19 13:45:55
    Harry Potter!!
    ina
    +3
    this shouldnt even be a question.

    HARRY POTTER
  • spacegandalf- 2010/06/06 06:26:38
    Harry Potter!!
    spacegandalf-
    +1
    Harry Potter wins. Any time.
  • tala 2009/10/28 04:38:42
    Harry Potter!!
    tala
    +1
    no need to explain further
  • Jalice♥ 2009/10/23 00:50:32
    TWILIGHT!!!
    Jalice♥
    HAhAhA I LIke Ahrry Potter And I LOVEEVEVE TWILIGHT BUT TOO be realistic I wont fight People have there own OPinions THough.you know what's funny cause pll are syin that robert pattinson sux and he was in one of the harry potter films and he was a good actor!! ADMIT IT!!!
  • luke-jones 2009/10/10 14:01:18
    Harry Potter!!
    luke-jones
    'This' is a 'great' scene! harry potter scene
  • I_Am_A_Person 2009/10/09 00:55:40
  • Chamii 2009/10/01 17:27:14
    Harry Potter!!
    Chamii
    +1
    because everyone know that a sparkling peice of shit.. is still just a peice of shit. HARRY POTTER ROCKS
  • Ninja Cupcake 2009/09/28 22:22:36
    TWILIGHT!!!
    Ninja Cupcake
    +2
    i love twilight.
  • Cancer13 2009/09/28 15:56:25
    Harry Potter!!
    Cancer13
    I love this story!
  • änimèkìssès 2009/09/08 10:36:03
    TWILIGHT!!!
    änimèkìssès
    Twi twi twi light!... I dont know y.
  • GrumpyCat änimèkì... 2009/09/12 20:09:04
    GrumpyCat
    +2
    There is no reason why.
  • änimèkì... GrumpyCat 2009/09/16 10:36:50
    änimèkìssès
    people enjoy vampires, ta da, one reason outaa the 5 reasons.
  • GrumpyCat änimèkì... 2009/09/16 21:12:13
    GrumpyCat
    +1
    I enjoy vampires as well. That is why I hate twilight. It ruined vampires and turned them into sparkly fairies.
  • änimèkì... GrumpyCat 2009/09/19 08:59:51
    änimèkìssès
    I enjoy vamps aswell. But twilight is still awesome. I don't like the fact that they sparkle either, but its a good movie at least.
  • GrumpyCat änimèkì... 2009/09/20 16:07:03
    GrumpyCat
    +2
    How would you qualify a "good movie"? I would say good acting, good special effects, good script, and a good plot.

    As for the plot, I would leave that up to each his own but for the rest, come on!

    Good acting: Kristen Stewart can't act to save her life. She is playing the female lead so the film relies on her. She has that same blank expression throughout the film and speaks in monotone.

    Good special effects: -_- During the scene where Edward was "running" or going up a tree it was painfully obvious he was on a zipline.

    Good script: "This is the skin of a killer *sparkles*" is there anything else I need to say.
  • änimèkì... GrumpyCat 2009/10/25 01:58:30
    änimèkìssès
    Ok I admit it, I HATE the movie but the first 2 books are ok, the 3rd is terribe, and the movie is too, maybe i you people would get a life and stop making everyone soo sad too be a twilight fan, it's rude. Thats just my opion.
  • GrumpyCat änimèkì... 2009/10/25 23:15:15
    GrumpyCat
    I do have a life. But this is what I do in my spare time. My proffessors encourage debate on the internet because it improves english and debate skills.
  • änimèkì... GrumpyCat 2009/10/26 10:58:14
    änimèkìssès
    do you know what debate is? Debate is arguing over a catergory. And this is not debate. You aren't debating you are just calling people names and making people sad too be twilight fan. So I think we should stop this 'debate' and move on with life.
  • änimèkì... GrumpyCat 2009/09/16 10:37:39
    änimèkìssès
    but people like you for example make it a 'war' between the two, they both are great, so just stop complaining and get on with life.
  • Not Alone 2009/09/08 10:30:01
    Harry Potter!!
    Not Alone
    +3
    Harry Potter always. every time.

    HP's plot was so much more complex and J.K.R. is a better writer. She made a world that doesn't exist, come alive. The books almost made you believe it could all be real. Twilight had a terrible plot, that was very predictable. J.K.R. developed her characters so well, and so complex. In Twilight, none of the characters are complex, there's pathetic Bella, and perfect Edward. They don't even have enough character flaws for us to believe they could be real people.
    Also, Harry Potter can teach so much, which is one of the points a writer strives towards when creating a story, to teach the reader something. The only thing I learned from reading the twilight series (and yes, i read all 4 books) was to stay away from anything that was written by Smeyer.
  • ssppaarrkkllyy!! 2009/09/04 22:38:59
    Harry Potter!!
    ssppaarrkkllyy!!
    I feel like typing this. fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck all this Harry Potter vs. Twilight crap!!!!!
  • Liz 2009/09/02 22:52:35
    Harry Potter!!
    Liz
    I like BOTH!
    if only i could figure out how to CHECK both!
  • rock&rollgirl-loves rock&roll 2009/09/01 19:34:32
    Harry Potter!!
    rock&rollgirl-loves rock&roll
    i dont like hp or twilight.but if i hade to pick one it would be harry potter. harry potter hp twilight hade harry potter harry potter hp twilight hade harry potter epic my ass.
  • bughut *~In Passion Pit I t... 2009/09/01 00:00:02
    Harry Potter!!
    bughut *~In Passion Pit I trust~*
    +2
    There is only one answer.
  • Moonlig... bughut ... 2009/09/22 22:06:41
    Moonlight101
    Technically there are two, although you and me both know which one is the better pick.
  • bughut ... Moonlig... 2009/09/22 22:17:17
    bughut *~In Passion Pit I trust~*
    Lol. Yeah.
  • spacega... bughut ... 2010/06/06 06:28:51
    spacegandalf-
    I'm agreeing with you. I thank my best friend for converting me. I now detest the books with all my might.
  • A Person 2009/08/29 17:20:22
    Harry Potter!!
    A Person
    +8
    Okay, in the end, it all comes down to three things.

    1. Plot/Idea

    OK, J.K. Rowling's idea of wizardry wasn't her idea, and vampires weren't Stephenie Meyer's idea either. But when it comes to plot, Harry Potter wins. The world in Harry Potter is so detailed and intricate. Yes, we know it's not real. But it feels real, it seems as if it could be real. The setting of Twilight was just some random place Stephenie Meyer probably picked using "Eenie, Meenie, Miny, Mo." Twilight's plot was extremely predictable. My friend told her aunt the basic plot of Twilight, and then she practically guessed the rest of the entire series correctly. Harry Potter's plot is much more complex. Yes, it was predictable that Voldemort would lose, but there was hundreds of other things that caused uncertainty. All four Twilight books are basically the same. Bella gets in trouble, Edward comes and saves her, the vampires win, and everybody lives happily ever after. The same plot, repeatedly used over and over again. Harry Potter also kind of had the same plot (Harry Potter vs. Voldemort), but it had immensely different subplots in each book that made it UNIQUE from the other books.

    2. Characters

    The characters in Harry Potter are "round characters." Meaning, they are as complex to describe as a perso...



    Okay, in the end, it all comes down to three things.

    1. Plot/Idea

    OK, J.K. Rowling's idea of wizardry wasn't her idea, and vampires weren't Stephenie Meyer's idea either. But when it comes to plot, Harry Potter wins. The world in Harry Potter is so detailed and intricate. Yes, we know it's not real. But it feels real, it seems as if it could be real. The setting of Twilight was just some random place Stephenie Meyer probably picked using "Eenie, Meenie, Miny, Mo." Twilight's plot was extremely predictable. My friend told her aunt the basic plot of Twilight, and then she practically guessed the rest of the entire series correctly. Harry Potter's plot is much more complex. Yes, it was predictable that Voldemort would lose, but there was hundreds of other things that caused uncertainty. All four Twilight books are basically the same. Bella gets in trouble, Edward comes and saves her, the vampires win, and everybody lives happily ever after. The same plot, repeatedly used over and over again. Harry Potter also kind of had the same plot (Harry Potter vs. Voldemort), but it had immensely different subplots in each book that made it UNIQUE from the other books.

    2. Characters

    The characters in Harry Potter are "round characters." Meaning, they are as complex to describe as a person in real life. The characters in Twilight are "flat characters", meaning that they are described without much individualizing detail, and can be basically summed up in about 2 sentences. The characters in Harry Potter went through radical change and developed as the series progressed. The characters in Twilight basically remained the same throughout the entire series. Bella remained whiny and selfish. Her becoming a mother didn't even change that fact. The only change I see in Edward is that he finally conquers his urge to eat Bella. And that's basically it. The rest of the Cullens had no personality whatsoever, and their personalities were unrealistic. You can't relate to any of the characters in Twilight.

    3. Realism & Message

    Yes, Harry Potter contains magic and Twilight contains "vampires", so technically, one of them can't be more realistic then the other. Well, wrong. Harry Potter was much more realistic.Obviously, In the end Harry and his friends are more relatable, more real. Though throughout the Twilight books, when Bella was human everything she did came with a price, a choice. However by the end of the fourth book, all the characters are immortal, no one lost anything. Yes Bella will lose both her parents but she expected that she made that choice. However EVERYONE lives, only one character dies by the end of the fourth book, and Bella only met her once. Harry Potter is the better series because of more developed characters, both stories are equally moving and captivating too say the least, but because after reading Harry Potter one feels human. Characters you love die, things that seemed impossible finally happen, the good guys win, for the time being. It on a level, though competely fictitious, it is real because in life you lose people you love, sometimes you catch a break sometimes you don't and the world is always in a constant struggle of good versus evil, going on a small hiatus every now and again. But by the end of Twilight, all the characters are alive, Rosalie, Emmett, Carlisle, Esme, Bella, Edward, Jasper, Alice, Renesmee, Jacob, and none of them are ever going to die because they are all immortal, they didn't win the fight against the evil Voltouri because the big battle, never happened, and in the end minimal sacrifices were made, everyone ended up happy without the loss of ANYthing. Yes, they were vampires so they are supposed to live forever, but that doesn't mean everything always pans out because no one's life is that perfect, not even for an immortal perfectly beautiful creature. Thus Harry Potter is the better series, not because of just character, plot, theme, no nothing like that, though Harry Potter does trump Twilight there also. Harry Potter is the better series because it is honest with its readers, sending a simple message, nothing in life is perfect live it to your fullest and be the best person you can, spread as much love and hope as possible and fight for what you know is right, because in the end, though you may loose things or people in the process good does triumph over evil, even though to earn that good thing sacrifices must be made, it will be okay, you aren't perfect and you don't have to be. Twilight sends the message that stalking, abuse, suicide, and teen pregnancy is okay, and that males are the superior sex (but the sexism in Twilight is an entirely different discussion). Anyway, when you are reading fiction, yes, it doesn't have to be realistic, unless the intent of the author was to make it realistic. Which it was seeing as it was set in a normal high school setting and Stephenie Meyer professes that Bella is an average girl, a realistic girl. And I'm not saying that to love something, characters need to die, however as a writer you get attached to your characters, SM got so attached in fact she completely departed from any realm of realism and gave them a perfect cookie cutter happily ever after. This isn’t realistic. Bella was supposed to have all these sacrifices she was willing to make to be with Edward, well guess what after she became undeniably perfect, even more perfect then the other perfect vampires in the world, she got everything and anything she wanted, perfect. No sacrifices no nothing anything and everything she could ever want. SM had created a realistic world and then departed from that reality, which isn't meant to happen.
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  • Mia 2009/08/29 10:22:12
    Harry Potter!!
    Mia
    +1
    Harry Potter!!! Hate Twilight, there isn't any plot except for how "hot" Edward Cullen is!!
  • VRay023 2009/08/26 20:35:54 (edited)
    TWILIGHT!!!
    VRay023
    +2
    twilight twilight

    my answer 2 harrry potter is
    BLAH its ok but not the best
  • GrumpyCat VRay023 2009/08/31 19:32:41
    GrumpyCat
    +2
    stop posting pictures of the ugly and talentless robert pattinson doing his "rape face."
  • Moonlig... GrumpyCat 2009/09/12 18:12:52
    Moonlight101
    +1
    LOL
    Win
  • spacega... Moonlig... 2010/06/06 06:37:00
    spacegandalf-
    epic win
  • Warren ... spacega... 2010/08/16 21:51:14
    Warren Lover
    totally EPIC win
  • bughut ... VRay023 2009/09/01 00:01:31
    bughut *~In Passion Pit I trust~*
    +1
    What do pictures of Robert Pattinson have to do with this. And Harry Potter is DEFINATELY NOT blah.
  • DrCowbo... VRay023 2009/10/25 15:54:57
    DrCowboyFace
    AAAAH! Robert Patinson thinks he can act again!
  • lena 2009/08/24 20:18:53
    Harry Potter!!
    lena
    +2
    Harry Potter is way better than Twilight!
  • Stefany 2009/08/20 23:48:18
    TWILIGHT!!!
    Stefany
    Harry Potter SUCKS !!!!! Love Twilight ! :)
  • Lily Stefany 2009/08/24 09:31:11
    Lily
    +1
    I feel sorry that you were born without a brain.
    feel born brain
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