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Transgender Banned from Miss Universe. Right or Wrong?

Freshtildeath 2012/03/27 16:43:54
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Miss Universe Canada disqualified 23-year-old Jenna Talackova because she was born a male.

Was this the right decision?



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  • Emily 2012/04/10 18:36:02
    Right
    Emily
    +8
    She still has male chromosomes so therefore "she" is still a male. I compete in pageants and I believe that God creates u male or female and u should learn 2 live with it.

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  • Jeaniesku77 2013/04/19 20:17:17
    Wrong
    Jeaniesku77
    Omg! She was born male! Let's make a big deal out of it because we're terrible people! God, some people just get on my nerves. So what if she was born male, guess what: SO WAS I! I So were many other people who are women, and many born female who are men. Get over it. It happens. Does it affect your life, no. Does it hurt you, no. If you don't want these people to exist, go live in a cave and imagine that what you can't see isn't real, we don't want to see you either.
  • cheetahlover156 2012/06/14 02:55:28
    Right
    cheetahlover156
    +1
    Just because he had reconstructed surgery on his body, his DNA is still male. It isn't fair for all the other contestants that were born female
  • Me 2012/05/19 16:17:44
    Wrong
    Me
    whats funny here is that most of you that have a negative comment are in high school at most.Try looking up the process and requirement for transgenders before you run your mouth here.Clearly you people are haters,and its you that makes this world suck.
  • PeaceLoveHappiness 2012/05/09 00:12:52 (edited)
    Right
    PeaceLoveHappiness
    +1
    Let these transgenders get their own pageant instead of riding on the coat tails of real women pageants. They know that they would not get much attention; because men came to see real women.



    species
  • Soviet Revolution 2012/05/07 18:33:17
    Right
    Soviet Revolution
    Its for girls not guys who become girls.
  • Aqua Surf 2012/05/03 23:46:07
    Right
    Aqua Surf
    ANY kind of surgery puts other girls in the constest at a disadvantage; not fair. It should be about the beauty, intelligence and talent you were BORN with.
  • Marie 2012/05/03 13:55:10
    This is a tough one...
    Marie
    They should include it or not in there qualifications! qualifications for beauty contestant
  • Mr.Hoodz the Truth Troll 2012/05/03 00:08:17
    Right
    Mr.Hoodz the Truth Troll
    +1
    Chromosomes don't lie.
  • pamela 2012/05/02 23:26:15
    Right
    pamela
    +1
    When there are rules placed, then everyone should abide by them. If he/she was born male, he/she will the male chromosomes, meaning that he/she should be banned from the pageant.
    If he/she decides to sue or thinks it could be racist, then he/she will lose big time and pay out on all court costs. One of your answers, "this is a tough one", is not actually all that tough. If you were not born with female parts, then you can not be viewed as a contestant.
  • Sweet-N-Sour 2012/05/02 19:52:18
    Right
    Sweet-N-Sour
    +2
    So...if I get my entire body tattooed a rich chocolate color, can I be in the Miss Black America contest? F...ing stupid.
  • Elleryqueen 2012/05/02 18:58:25
    Right
    Elleryqueen
    +2
    Operative word here is "Miss", not Mrs., trans, bi, etc. What one thinks one is or wants to be is immaterial. Male is male, is male.
  • johnnyg 2012/05/02 17:41:52
    This is a tough one...
    johnnyg
    He says she is a woman
  • Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA 2012/05/02 17:31:02
    Right
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Sickos just can't mind their own business.

    They need to have their own 'drag' race, elsewhere.
  • gregaj7 2012/05/02 17:21:47
    Right
    gregaj7
    +3
    She needs to be disqualified, and folk need to keep their born ID.
  • ALPEAUX 2012/05/02 17:13:37 (edited)
    Wrong
    ALPEAUX
    +1
    My question is what would be the official outcome if the regular females would would use harmones to increase thier bust size? Or sports figures would use harmones to increase their sports activityes. JUST wondering...Alpeaux
    PS I selected the wrong comment. IT should have been banned, period!
  • mwg0735 2012/04/30 02:27:28
  • ray 2012/04/29 20:56:56
    Wrong
    ray
    +1
    The dude don't belong in a woman's locker room .
    Even if he goes so far as to be mutilated by doctor.
  • Kat 2012/04/29 20:38:12
    Right
    Kat
    +4
    If they want a pageant let them have their own.
  • stevegtexas@aol.com 2012/04/29 20:05:20
    Right
    stevegtexas@aol.com
    +3
    yes right. it was a contest for women....kind of like the deal with the boy who wanted to be in 'girl scouts' its gender specific....dont let your feelings be hurt, but some things are gender specific, it really has 'little to do with rights or equality.
  • Son Of ... stevegt... 2012/05/02 19:02:07
    Son Of Anubis™
    +1
    I agree and all these girls that want to compete in hockey, soccer etc that are boys teams should be kicked out too...fair is fair....if you're not male you can't play on a male team.
  • Dagon 2012/04/29 19:55:38
  • CHUCK 2012/04/29 19:51:04
    Right
    CHUCK
    +5
    IT IS MISS UNIVERSE ,NOT MISS TRANSGENDER..
  • kitkat42 2012/04/29 19:48:20
    Wrong
    kitkat42
    +1
    Old, moot question. The Donald changed his mind and any transgender person can now compete.
  • mk, Smartass Oracle 2012/04/29 18:45:49
    Wrong
    mk, Smartass Oracle
    She looks hot to me!





    hot sexy girl
  • Emily 2012/04/10 18:36:02
    Right
    Emily
    +8
    She still has male chromosomes so therefore "she" is still a male. I compete in pageants and I believe that God creates u male or female and u should learn 2 live with it.
  • ALPEAUX Emily 2012/05/02 17:17:56
    ALPEAUX
    +1
    I have a friend that put a BMW logo on his VW. He CALLS it a BMW. It is STILL a VW. Alpeaux
  • Mr.Hood... Emily 2012/05/03 00:06:38
    Mr.Hoodz the Truth Troll
    Bingo!
  • FPSRules 2012/04/04 23:02:04
    Right
    FPSRules
    +6
    The competition is for women, not men sans their johnson.
  • Padfoot 2012/04/01 17:41:58
    Wrong
    Padfoot
    +1
    Well she's a female now so what does it matter?
  • Dagon Padfoot 2012/04/29 19:57:41
  • Padfoot Dagon 2012/05/02 16:38:55
    Padfoot
    +1
    yes true but she can be like that if she wants, I would consider her as a girl :)
  • Dagon Padfoot 2012/05/02 17:07:02
  • Padfoot Dagon 2012/05/05 22:19:27
    Padfoot
    +1
    fair enough
  • Mr.Hood... Padfoot 2012/05/03 00:07:20
    Mr.Hoodz the Truth Troll
    You and him do not share the same chromosomes which means he is not a she.
  • Marie Mr.Hood... 2012/05/03 14:01:53
    Marie
    How about all the other changes the contestants have made???? cosmetic surgery
  • Mr.Hood... Marie 2012/05/03 19:40:04
    Mr.Hoodz the Truth Troll
    Long as they have female chromosomes they are female. Am I right?
  • Monty Padfoot 2012/08/02 04:41:50
    Monty
    not she,idc what someone gets done to their body,they are still the same sex they were born as
  • Padfoot Monty 2012/09/09 10:33:59
    Padfoot
    but if they prefer to go as a she you should respect it.
  • Racoony 2012/04/01 05:32:03
    Wrong
    Racoony
    +4
    It’s pretty sad and gross that so many people are still judgmental jerks towards others that they do not even know. Don’t worry! There are a lot of resources for you to educate yourself. Here is a brief rundown of some simple things to remember:



    1. Gender is fluid. That means that it can, and does change. It can seem like a slow change or a sudden change- or maybe it won’t change at all. It’s one of life’s mysteries! It is none of your business if someone’s gender suddenly shifts. Use the correct pronouns and move on.



    2. Gender does not mean conforming to stereotypes. A male or androgynous person can wear dresses or like cute things, and they are still male or androgynous. Someone who identifies as female does not have to like dresses or cute things, and she is still female. Accept their preferences and interests and get over it.



    3. If someone you know does not seem to fit into the norm for trans* people, it can be confusing or frustrating. If you think that your friend or acquaintance is just confused and not really the gender they identify as, if you think that they are just going through a phase, or if you believe that they only want attention, follow these simple steps to handle the situation:



    Realize it is none of your business

    Do not talk about how “obviousl...


































    It’s pretty sad and gross that so many people are still judgmental jerks towards others that they do not even know. Don’t worry! There are a lot of resources for you to educate yourself. Here is a brief rundown of some simple things to remember:



    1. Gender is fluid. That means that it can, and does change. It can seem like a slow change or a sudden change- or maybe it won’t change at all. It’s one of life’s mysteries! It is none of your business if someone’s gender suddenly shifts. Use the correct pronouns and move on.



    2. Gender does not mean conforming to stereotypes. A male or androgynous person can wear dresses or like cute things, and they are still male or androgynous. Someone who identifies as female does not have to like dresses or cute things, and she is still female. Accept their preferences and interests and get over it.



    3. If someone you know does not seem to fit into the norm for trans* people, it can be confusing or frustrating. If you think that your friend or acquaintance is just confused and not really the gender they identify as, if you think that they are just going through a phase, or if you believe that they only want attention, follow these simple steps to handle the situation:



    Realize it is none of your business

    Do not talk about how “obviously” fake their identity is

    Use the correct pronouns and let them be happy with their life.

    4. If someone you know seems to be confused with their gender, that’s okay. Not everyone can leap out of bed and declare themselves one gender or another and be sure of it. A changing gender and identity can be confusing, and it is perfectly okay to be unsure, to question oneself, and to go back and forth.



    5. If a person does not appear to be the gender they identify as, that is also okay. An androgynous person might have a large chest or a large bulge. They are still androgynous, not a he or a she. Please respect them and use their preferred pronoun, not whatever pronoun you assume will work. Gender is not based on appearance, and you should not make assumptions on a person’s gender because of the way that they look.



    6. Finally, please remember that no one’s gender is your business but your own. Do not push yourself into someone else’s space to tell them why they are wrong to identify as the gender that they do. Identity is a very personal thing, and you are not “solving” or “fixing” the other person by refusing to use their pronouns and insisting on disrespecting them.

    Also!
    there is a difference between

    -having a penis
    -being a male
    -presenting as male

    there is also a difference between

    -having a vagina
    -being female
    -presenting as female

    YOU CAN BE ANY COMBINATION OF THOSE!

    you can be a transman who wears dresses! that’s okay! you don’t have to bind if you don’t want to.

    you can be a transwoman who has a beard! that’s great!

    your genitals do not determine your gender, and your gender does not determine what you wear or how you want to be seen by others.

    I think that covers the basics! Now that you have a basic understanding, please get on with your life and be a little bit more respectful to people.
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  • Torchma... Racoony 2012/05/02 17:24:46 (edited)
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    These people agree with you:

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