I am the mother of 6 children, 3 boys who all play and love football. I for one will never allow Michael Vick to be viewed on TV nor will I ever pay for any football game involving the Atlanta Falcons if Vick continues to play for them.
He is scum.
Should the NFL and the Atlanta Falcons get rid of Michael Vick for the dog fighting indictment?
ronnie
2007/07/18 16:20:13
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Mad Mom 2007/08/30 01:33:34
one is humane and the other isnt . i have seen dog fights since i was at least five . the whole reason people bred pitbulls is because they are viscious,they are bred to fight if someone owns a pit you can bet they own him to fight him and if they say hes great around the kids they are a liar
maybe if you and a dog were dieing ill save the dog since you would be not worth the effort . after all you think a dogs life is worht more than a humans .
Michael Vick is no more a criminal than any grocery store owner! Why is it such that the man who makes money off of the death and mutilation of chickens, pigs, cows, fish, shrimp, etc. a respectable business man where a Michael Vick a "threat" to society? By what standard is a dog more sacred than any of these other animals?
Laws should ONLY govern how human beings deal with one another. I believe that once we can get interaction within our own species down a bit better, then perhaps we should look into intra-species legislation. Perhaps at that point we will then grant dogs the right to a fair trial, health care and free education.
FREE MICHAEL VICK!
His being jailed is a moral tragedy.
Whenever I am in the park walking and see one of these animals licking his reproductive organs, I can't help but gag at the thought that the most magnificent quarterback to ever play the game is now held in a cage because of one of these feces eating mongrels. I am being deprived the exhilaration of witnessing what Michael Vick can do on the grid iron because he is being punished for killing dogs that he raised and cared for just like a farmer who raises chickens, cows, or ...""
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Michael Vick is no more a criminal than any grocery store owner! Why is it such that the man who makes money off of the death and mutilation of chickens, pigs, cows, fish, shrimp, etc. a respectable business man where a Michael Vick a "threat" to society? By what standard is a dog more sacred than any of these other animals?
Laws should ONLY govern how human beings deal with one another. I believe that once we can get interaction within our own species down a bit better, then perhaps we should look into intra-species legislation. Perhaps at that point we will then grant dogs the right to a fair trial, health care and free education.
FREE MICHAEL VICK!
His being jailed is a moral tragedy.
Whenever I am in the park walking and see one of these animals licking his reproductive organs, I can't help but gag at the thought that the most magnificent quarterback to ever play the game is now held in a cage because of one of these feces eating mongrels. I am being deprived the exhilaration of witnessing what Michael Vick can do on the grid iron because he is being punished for killing dogs that he raised and cared for just like a farmer who raises chickens, cows, or pigs. Human achievement takes a back seat to the "rights" of another species. How does man decide which species can be killed for our benefit, and which ones can not? What is the magic formula? Who is the genius that developed this decision making process?
If man is moral to use the lives of other species to promote and sustain his life, then this is a principle that should be used universally or not at all. One man should not be penalized for killing animals where another man is free to do so. Michael Vick is no more a monster than the owners of pharmaceutical manufacturing companies who torture animals to death to develop cures for disease, or those who torture animals to death to provide the mink furs that so many of us covet. A dog is no more special than any other animal!
Clearly, Michael Vick is the victim of gross violation of property rights. Animals in a free and fair society are not citizens but the property of citizens. Animal rights are rights granted to them by becoming the property of human beings. Some are more lucky than others. One animal owner should not have the right to mandate what other animal owners can and can not do with the animals that they pay for.
Unfortunately we live in a society that no longer truly appreciates what property rights mean. We seem to believe that the consensus of a mob has a position of moral superiority over the individual. That for example a mob of hindus has the right to one day vote away the rights of Christians to eat hamburgers.
Our form of government as created made this an impossibility, but 200 years of sabotage and moral cowardice have eroded and outright re-written the constitution that was created to protect the property rights of its citizens.
What we now have is a pathetic population of mongrel worshipping mediocrity what would literally jail the greatest within our species to protect rights of a mangy, stupid, and filthy animal.
If Michael Vick is kept in prison much longer I don't know exactly what I am going to do but sit still won't be one of my options.
So is cockfighting bad? Is hunting deer bad? What about fishing? But you consider them organized sports. Whites have been participating in dogfighting for years. (Do your research!) Because Vick is successful and black (oh...and the face of the NFL), the government had to try to find something to pin on him. I think you guys need to really take a step back and take your emotions out of it and look at the picture holistically.
Now the government is after Barry Bonds...interesting! Why? Because of the lies by two former friends who have so much to gain. Did you know that he lied before he broke Hank Aaron's record? No..we want to make this black man look bad in the media! Did he really lie? What evidence to we have? TWO FORMER FRIENDS' WORDS! BOTH WHO HAVE SO MUCH TO GAIN!
HE DID NOT DO ANYTHING WRONG IT IS JUST SOME DAMN ANIMALS, I CAN UNDERSTAND IF IT WAS A HUMAN.
Remember Ronnie, when your people came here they brought such things to the indians as Cholera/Small Pox. Remember the first Ky Derby riders were exclusively black until it was found out about about the purse sizes and it became exclusivly white. Michael vick has disgrace himself no more then former Heisman trophy winner Billy Cannon being tried for counterfeiting. He played in the old AFL for Houston Won the trophy in 57 or 58. He became a successful dentist in Baton Rouge LA. He played @ LSU. He's allowed to live his mistake down. As well as Denny McClain of the 68 Detroit Tigers world series champs. He went to jail for gambling. Check it out. Vick Is Stupid but so are they. Allow him to be human, as none of us are perfect.
NO! you are scum
by: OneLastOutlaw
OPEN LETTER TO MICHAEL VICK
Aug 30, 2007 | 2:50PM | YES it IS about race Mr. Vick. As I read
inarticulate, near illiterate person after person on this blog
defending your black BLEEP , YES it IS about race. And people like
you are to blame.
MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT MR. VICK I AM BLACK. My parents came from
just as dirt poor as yours did. They had four kids. Two boys and two
girls. One girl was killed by her hoodrat boyfriend for trying to
break up with him. The jury rejected his lawyer and shrinks tale of
being abused as a child blah blah. They put on testimony that he had
abused animals as a child. Once dousing a cat in gasoline and
setting it on fire. (How is that any different than you throwing
cats and house dogs in to be killed?) None of us were a number
anything draft choice. But what none of us ever did was spend a day
in jail. None of us fought dogs.
You talk about your love for your mother and what she's done for
you. You knew it was against the law in high school when you fought
dogs didn't you? How damn big is your ego? What did you say? "It
don't matter what people say of me I will be Michael Vick".
Something similar? Thinking of your mother when you said that? You
and your brother are thugz Mr. Vick and as su...
by: OneLastOutlaw
OPEN LETTER TO MICHAEL VICK
Aug 30, 2007 | 2:50PM | YES it IS about race Mr. Vick. As I read
inarticulate, near illiterate person after person on this blog
defending your black BLEEP , YES it IS about race. And people like
you are to blame.
MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT MR. VICK I AM BLACK. My parents came from
just as dirt poor as yours did. They had four kids. Two boys and two
girls. One girl was killed by her hoodrat boyfriend for trying to
break up with him. The jury rejected his lawyer and shrinks tale of
being abused as a child blah blah. They put on testimony that he had
abused animals as a child. Once dousing a cat in gasoline and
setting it on fire. (How is that any different than you throwing
cats and house dogs in to be killed?) None of us were a number
anything draft choice. But what none of us ever did was spend a day
in jail. None of us fought dogs.
You talk about your love for your mother and what she's done for
you. You knew it was against the law in high school when you fought
dogs didn't you? How damn big is your ego? What did you say? "It
don't matter what people say of me I will be Michael Vick".
Something similar? Thinking of your mother when you said that? You
and your brother are thugz Mr. Vick and as such all the money in
the world only makes you do me and my family a disservice. You got a
college education, I got one. I went to work. You went to work. I
got a house for 178 thousand dollars. You got mansions. I played
park league basketball for free, you got 130 million and Nike
contracts and god knows what else.
I got lucky and got a few dollars and put my daughters thru college.
You got lucky and got a lot of dollars and started the biggest dog
fighting operation on the Eastern seaboard. WOULD IT HAVE KILLED YOU
TO HAVE TAKEN A TENTH OF THE INTEREST YOU MADE TO PUT AN INNER CITY
KID THRU COLLEGE EVERY YEAR? But you didn't did you?
Forget the freedom marchers, Martin Luther King, the Civil rights
act. You're too young to kow about all that and that sainted mother
of yours apparantly never instilled any values in you whatsoever
much less any history. But do you have frigging idea how many years
black people in America have suffered at the hands of the stereotype
that a black man was too stupid to be a successful Pro Quarterback?
You were number 1. The most gifted physically possibly of any race
to ever play quarterback?
A very large part of the black community had their entire belief
system of achieving NFL parity for blacks in your hands. God knows
Arthur Blank stood by you. And what did you do? Went right along
lying to everyone, thugin' it up, giving the entire rest of black
Americans the finger. Oh sure the functionally illiterate support
you. But they think going to prison is normal. Just like the racists
against blacks think blacks going to prison is normal. That's your
support base Mr Vick. Black people as stupid as white supremacists.
Now you got caught and standing there in your Armani 3,000.00
suit "your sorry and need to grow up and you found Jesus". YOU JUST
DON'T GET IT DO YOU PUNK? You're sorry you got caught is what you
are and the judge is a bible belt judge so it never hurts to find
Jesus does it? You're a sociopath is what you are. I know this
because you haven't felt sorry enough to make one single dime
donation to animal rescue or inner city kid education against dog
fighting. The only sorrow that you feel that has cost you a dime is
trying to minimize your prison time. Why didn't you get your homies
attorney's? Huh? Maybe they wouldn't have rolled over on you? You
bailed on everyone, blamed your family, claimed to be a victim,
talked about YOUR good name. WHAT ABOUT MY GOOD NAME BROTHA?
Every day millions of black men go to work. Make minimum wage or
barely above it, take care of their families, and lose their kids to
the streets because they can't afford anything but bare substance.
You didn't do a damn thing with that 200 million or so to help
anyone from your home town did you? Anyone in Atlanta? Not that I
heard of. You have made the millions of black men being portrayed as
liars, shifless, untrustworthy and worse, even more real to everyone
else including to black women.
Now your brethern brain dead pretend thugz athletes like Artest
(didn't he have some dogs they checked out? Sure did.) and Starbury
of all people, rush to your defense. Sports writers particularly
black ones say 'well it's cost him millions of dollars, he should
get a second chance". WHO IS GOING TO REPLACE THE BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS IT COST BLACK MEN WHO BRING HOME 3-500.00 A WEEK IN THE WORK
PLACE BECAUSE YOU PERPETUATED THE STEREOTYPE OF THE BLACK MAN WHO
CAN'T BE TRUSTED AROUND WOMEN (RON MEXICO RING A BELL?) CAN'T BE
TRUSTED NOT TO BLOW UP ON THE JOB AND GET FUNKY (FINGERS? AIRPORT?)
WE'RE ALREADY THE LAST HIRED AND THE FIRST FIRED. You just don't get
it. If a black man making 200 million can't act like a grown
responsible man at age 28 why the hell would boss think "Fred in
purchasing" is going to be any different once he blows up because
he's losing his house or whatever. Why would they? They seen how you
act and they gotta figure us broke "BLEEP s" are gonna be worse. You
BLEEP . You and people like Pacman got free passes courtsey of US.
We've spent years SCREAMING RACISM every single time they gave
people like you grief for you acting out. NO MORE. IF YOU CAN'T DO
ANYTHING BUT THROW YOUR BLEEP IN THE FACE OF BLACK AMERICA THEN
YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN.
THIS IS ABOUT RACE MICHAEL VICK AND THE DECENT BLACK PEOPLE OF
AMERICA HAVE HAD IT WITH YOU THUGZ. GET OUT OF OUR LIVES. YOU'RE NOT
BLACK AND YOU'RE NOT HUMAN. YOU'RE A SUBHUMAN SOCIOPATH THUG. I HOPE
YOU'RE BANNED FOREVER. AND I HOPE YOU SCREW UP BETWEEN NOW AND DEC.
YOU HAVE HURT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. GO TO HELL
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