Should everyone have a shot at wedded bliss?

by L.A. Times Posted 2012/12/10 16:43:32

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On Friday, the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to review Proposition 8, California’s same-sex marriage ban. On Sunday, gay and lesbian couples lined up to get married as Washington state’s new law approving same-sex unions went into effect. And today, many religious conservatives are asking whether the USA is going the way of ancient Rome.

The Supreme Court will be deciding whether to uphold the appeals court ruling that struck down Proposition 8. In addition, the justices will be deliberating on the constitutionality of provisions of the federal Defense of Marriage Act that deny legal benefits to same-sex couples who are married. A range of outcomes is possible including a broad decision that opens the way to same-sex marriage in every state or a narrow ruling that says Proposition 8 supporters lack legal standing.

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Tylurr 2012/12/10 21:17:46

Yes

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Something about forcing values on other people?

Allowing gays to marry will NOT cause you to suddenly be forced to be gay. It will not happen unless you/your significant other is THAT far in the closet

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jere.chievres 2012/12/11 23:32:08

Yes

But it rarely happens

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xcheshirecat 2012/12/11 22:55:29

No

as*hole christians who don't want gays to marry shouldn't be allowed. Than they would see what it means

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moriarty 2012/12/11 22:12:59

Yes

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well, the liberals are taking shots at wedded bliss. soon it will be in ruin much like everything else liberals have touched.

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sophs 2012/12/11 21:14:10

No

Incest, polygamy - people who want to do these - who are consenting adults, still shouldn't be allowed.

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Tordgaard 2012/12/11 19:58:07

Yes

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Yes. The religious conservatives are free to practice as they believe but they are not free to impose their beliefs on others.

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Embalmer 2012/12/11 19:51:43

Yes

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There are no exceptions listed in the constitution when it comes to inalienable rights. These rights cannot be bought, sold or transfered from one person to another - in other words, one size fits all.

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sophs to Embalmer 2012/12/11 21:21:15

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So what about polygamy and consentual adult incest?

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Embalmer to sophs 2012/12/12 14:39:21

There are laws prohibiting them. Big difference.

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sophs to Embalmer 2012/12/12 15:07:54

You said no exeptions. So you mean no exceptions apart from those who break the law

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lee 2012/12/11 18:23:02

Yes

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everyone deserves the same chance to be miserable!

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kevracer 2012/12/11 18:10:32

Yes

everyone should get one free shot at ruining their lives

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SJG 2012/12/11 17:59:08

Yes

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Of course they should! There is no normal reason not to have everyone share in wedded bliss...:-) unless of course you are one of those perverted people who read the outrageous fable, the bible.

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t.eliot, topbard 2012/12/11 17:47:23

Yes

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Why not?

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Jezebel 2012/12/11 17:36:10

Yes

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If that's what they want.

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Eric 2012/12/11 17:29:13

No

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It is probably time to end the special rights given to married couples, either same sex or man-woman. Why discriminate against single people or asexual people by giving special tax breaks and other special rights to married couples? Or perhaps those special benefits given to married couples could be extended to platonic friendships and groups of friends.

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Tordgaard to Eric 2012/12/11 20:02:40

You have a valid point about ending the 'special rights' such as tax breaks for married couples since it does discriminate against single persons; but even without any of these special rights, gay people should still be allowed to marry each other IMO.

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Eric to Tordgaard 2012/12/12 00:35:12

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I agree with that. My main concern here is that we do this democratically, through the legislature, and not through judicial fiat or some bogus city or county meddling in what historically has been a state level issue. Being married, with the attached legal/tax benefits, is not some inalienable civil right but a govt issued right that should serve a public good.
And as more people remain single, and more single parents, perhaps it is time to consider whether those special rights are still relevant. They do have a cost of some kind, either with reduced taxes (for some)(and including estate taxes).

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Tordgaard to Eric 2012/12/12 13:53:03

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OK; then we are in agreement (of course, we always were).

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sophs to Eric 2012/12/11 21:23:37

it's to encourage the growth of society. If people get married, they are likely to raise children, children get jobs and take care of us in our old age. Put basically. It might not be "fair", but there is a point to it.
Yes I know I know - gay people can have children, lots of people have children outside of marriage, but that's why there are perks for married couples - the hope of stability and children.

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EvilMonkey 2012/12/11 17:26:47

No

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Take the government out of the marriage business, completely

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SJG to EvilMonkey 2012/12/11 18:00:10

Good idea, that way the ignorant red states can deny people a civil right.

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EvilMonkey to SJG 2012/12/11 20:03:29

If you take government out of thhe marriage business, then they can't deny your marriage you stupid ignorant government loving socialist dumb phucks.

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SJG to EvilMonkey 2012/12/11 23:30:12

Can't take the government out of marriage idiot! Looks like you're the dumb phuck!!!!!!!!!

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Embalmer to EvilMonkey 2012/12/11 19:17:39

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Take religion out of the marriage business, completely.

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Tordgaard to Embalmer 2012/12/11 20:04:48

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Yes: Take government and religion out of the marriage business and allow it to be a personal social contract between any two consenting adults.

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EvilMonkey to Embalmer 2012/12/11 20:05:20

Marriage came from religion not the government, get married by the church of Atheism!

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Embalmer to EvilMonkey 2012/12/11 20:28:48

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We, as a people, live under the constitution, not the Bible. So that means that here, in the states, the Bible is secondary to the contutituion - just like our Founding Fathers demanded.

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EvilMonkey to Embalmer 2012/12/11 20:45:08

Marriage is not mentioned in the Constitution, it is in the Bible however. Again get government out of marriage.

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Embalmer to EvilMonkey 2012/12/12 14:45:41

That's right, marriage isn't mentioned in the constitution and as Americans we have to honor the constitution before we honor the Bible.

Our civil liberties and freedoms are guaranteed under the constitution, not the Bible, so therefore the government has to guaranteee that all Americans receive the exact same freedoms to all Americans.

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Tordgaard to EvilMonkey 2012/12/11 20:04:28

Yes: Take government and religion out of the marriage business and allow it to be a personal social contract between any two consenting adults.

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EvilMonkey to Tordgaard 2012/12/11 20:07:31 (edited)

Agreed, getting a marriage licence is just an excuse to give a job to another government drone. However marriage traditions are based in religion.

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Tordgaard to EvilMonkey 2012/12/11 23:58:14

So, humans didn't have intimate relationships prior to their insertion of religion into it?

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Of Thee I Sing... 2012/12/11 17:10:52

Yes

as long as they are NOT the same sex......because that would be an abomination...

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Chris 2012/12/11 17:07:37

Yes

As I have said before, the Government shouldn't be legislating things like this. Everyone should have equal rights. That said, many religions don't believe the Bible allows for this. If that's the case, go to a church that is ok with it. Don't force your views on others. I know many religious people who believe that is just what the Bible says but it's not a personal issue. Those who are intent on legislating peoples live's, from either side of the aisle, need to grow up.

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L1Z2 2012/12/11 16:51:15 (edited)

Yes

If they want to, then they should have the chance.

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Jade 2012/12/11 16:28:24 (edited)

Yes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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Wm Kabrich 2012/12/11 16:23:06

Yes

As long as they are made to suffer just like men have had to when the divorces start happening. Who will be responsible for the uni-sexual children that they have when divorce happens ???

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RJeffreySavlov 2012/12/11 16:22:55

Yes

Wedded bliss does not mean to me that I support gay marriage, They are two separate issues. The term marriage refers to a union between a man and a woman. Wedded bliss refers to happiness and contentment in a committed relationship. Marriage at city hall is a "Civil Union". The crux of it is it is not a federal matter, it is a decision of each state individually.

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El Prez 2012/12/11 15:31:48

Yes

If they wish, then go for the bliss.

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Todd Parsons 2012/12/11 15:29:33

No

NEGATIVE

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