Shia LaBeouf Agrees to Real Sex Scenes in Lars von Trier Film: Is He Going Too Far?

Lars von Trier is one of the most famous and artistically awarded directors, and he has very high standards for his actors, I'd say that's a better move for an actor than doing some big-budget hollywood-same-old.

And Michael Winterbottom is also a highly regarded director, which is the reason why some of the actors agreed to do the same for his 2004 film, "Nine Songs." Shia's not the first to make this step,nor will he be the last.Willem Dafoe did it in the film "Antichrist".

I know Shia's not the first one and this is hardly original or new for Lars von trier either. But I do think staring in a Lars von trier film is a better move for a serious actor than a big-budget-hollywood film. After all, most movie-people (Serious movie people) and theater people, as well as directors, are going to ignore the Hollywood films. They're only created for the average person who doesn't mind watching the same plot recycled over and over again since to them it's comfortable, familiar and easy to watch.

It's a two way street. VonTrier needs a "name" to help get financing,and La Beouf needs the heft that would be given to his acting cred by appearing in a film directed by a director who is devoted to "substance in art". I enjoy foreign and indie movies because they are geared toward making the viewer have to engage their brains after they have viewed the film,and the best ones make the viewer feel just a bit uncomfortable. My answer to the question was "No,because I don't view him agreeing to do the part as going too far. Winona Ryder was originally slated to do the role that eventually was taken by Chloe Sevigny in "The Brown Bunny" . I would not have viewed her as going too far had she taken the part,but I still have my right to make some jokes about what they do because they are public figures.

You might as well be a porn star. A high class prostitute who screws on the camera for money.

And then they try justify it saying that it "isn't prostitution". My arse it isn't. They're PAID to screw other people in front of the camera. If Shia does this and I mean all the way, then he might as well be branded a new porn star. We don't need anymore of those.

That';s the reason why he wants to get away from doing big budget films. Only the independent films can get away with that kind of onscreen activity.There was a documentary on IFC a couple of years back that addressed those films.

That figures. It's sad when it has to come down to that.

He is a sucky actor that was in movies that people wanted to see regardless of who it was. I am not sure he is done with big budget or big budget is done with him.

Why do they need 'real' sex scenes? Its a movie. It is supposed to be acting. When someone gets shot, they don't have to really shoot them. When they fall in love, they don't have to really fall in love. If they have to age 10 years, the film isn't shot over 10 years.

Its a film. Its make-believe. Its actors being paid to simulate real life events in front of cameras.

Sorry for this actor, but it is either publicity seeking to keep his names in the headlines (as his full frontal evidently didn't do so he feels he needs to step it up) or he has become too full of himself and thinks somehow this nonsense is doing something 'important'. He's being used by a director trying to be controversial and is too foolish to see it; his career will likely suffer while the director gets the much needed publicity he seeks.

Movies need more real sex scenes these days. Time to step up Hollywood. Go big or go home. .

Why do they need 'real' scenes? Its acting. When someone gets shot, they don't have to really shoot them. When they fall in love, they don't have to really fall in love. If they have to age 10 years, the film isn't shot over 10 years.

Its a film. Its make-believe. Its actors being paid to simulate real life events in front of cameras.

Cause 'real' scenes are more enjoyable.

"go home" lmao so Ur saying if Hollywood dosnt have porn for adult and children to watch then Hollywood is going down the drain? Lmao I don't think so, u know nothing.

I said those things as in, it's time for Hollywood to progress and step up their game. They should be pushing the envelope and doing everything to bring in as many people and as much revenue as possible rather than going back to the same old ideas and retreads. Hollywood should be done with playing it safe by now.

Awww..is someone trying to bust his cherry? get some street cred?....Whose next? I suppose miley...but more importantly..does anyone give a crap besides him and his publicist? No

Grew up watching him play Louis in Even Stevens. Would probably open doors to Shia LaBeouf as an actor but shatter the ones of my childhood. I definitly won't want to see this movie.

The answer isn't yes or no, it's who cares? It's his life to live and nobody has to watch it if they don't want to. Is he hurting anyone? You can chose to admire him or revile him or just not give a crap.

his mustache is horrible

Just don't see the reason for this. So everyone goes to this movie JUST b/c the sex scenes are real? So, it's soft core porn but it's ART cuz it has REAL actors and a famous director? Whatever...

As long as I know the name of the movie, I really could not care less. I just won't go see the movie. Simple solution!

i dont watch porn so i will definitely not be watching this movie.

Does anyone remember those old sitcoms where married couples couldn't even sleep in the same bed? Or when you couldn't say,"Pregnant" on TV and instead used, "With child." Times have changed so, get over it or cancel your Internet and TV subscription.

But those were silly as they weren't portraying real life. This isn't about portraying anything real.... Its doing something for real to make a headline. When they fall in love, they don't have to really fall in love. If they have to age 10 years, the film isn't shot over 10 years. When someone gets shot, they don't have to really shoot them.

Its a film. Its make-believe. Its actors being paid to simulate real life events in front of cameras. If the only way to portray sex is to actually have it, what is next? Bank robbery scenes where the actors really have to rob a bank?

Though I agree with Man_bear_Pig, you raise an excellent point

That's my point. They are silly NOW. But back then they were a huge deal.

As for the bank robbery comment, "slippery slope" arguments are logical fallacies for a reason.

But, again, it is silly because they showed a fictionalized version of life. One that wasn't really like that. That is not the case with actors pretending to have sex vs really having it. The same thing is shown to the audience, just one does it more graphically. As I said elsewhere on here, do we really need to shoot people now? Send actors in to rob a bank rather than pretend to? They are paid to simulate life events, not to actually have them. I did not say if he has sex then next they'll be robbing banks. The point is that movies do not have to do something to make it real. They have to have actors portray it well.

Well I don't see where you're coming from because the conventional sex scene is a fictionalization of life. Everytime I see a sex scene all I can think about is how these two professional actors are just dryhumping and faking pleasure. It's like soft porn, only somehow worse.


Again, robbing banks and shooting people are not an issue here. So, why even bring it up? Nonsense. It's just people having sex on camera (aka porn). And it's been done.

And yes actors are paid to act. But it's much more convincing to see an actor actually cry real tears rather than have lemon spayed in their eye. And in the movie Titanic they used freezing cold water even though they didn't have to because the scene would'nt be the same without the actors actualy shivering. There's nothing wrong with a litte reality in movies. It's actually kind of refreshing. But, if you don't like it, then you have the freedom to not see the damn movie and let everyone else enjoy it.

That is what actors do, fake. They fake pleasure, sadness, etc. It is what acting is. It isn't acting if someone really does it, is it? I bring up the robbing/ shooting because that is the same thing... An actor pretends to do those things to make the viewer see it as real. He shouldn't have to really do any of them. If here is a fight scene, should they really beat each other up so its more 'real'? Rather than fake it? When you see a fight scene, is it all you can think about to realize they aren't really smashing chairs over one another and how they really should do it? Nonsense. I'm all for 'real', but in the instances you mention they are acting. The cold water? Great. But they didn't really put them in a life risking frozen ocean. And when they cry, they are managing their emotions to show you sadness, not really having anything done to make them sad. The same has been done for sex scenes: get turned on, get flushed, hot and sweaty, etc. But if they really have sex, where is the acting? Do you really think other actors and actresses are going to have sex with other actresses and actors? That this will change anything? Clearly not. He'll make the director famous who is just looking for controversy as any publicity is good publicity, but LaBeouf isn't really pushing boundaries at all. Its just being used by a director that can walk away as 'controversial' with a bigger name.

Look, I'm done talking about this. I don't need to read your response. There is no illegal activity going on in the movie. So just dont watch it if it bothers you that bad. Plain and simple

Well I know I will most likely not watch the movie, but ... if that's what he wants to do? I'm guessing he has made enough money to sustain him so that he can move on to projects he's interested in. No one is forcing anyone to watch the movie ...

So now he's doing low budget porn? I don't care what he does, it just seems like a ploy to make everyone a little extra cash.

An actor has to do whatever role a script says?

Hopefully with women

He really can do whatever he wants with his career, he's not hurting anyone, he's not doing drugs, he's not going to get himself killed - and there are stars who are doing mainstream movies who do just that.

No, thas better than seeing the same Hollywood crap everytime. good for him, he isn't scared of trying new things and pushing the boundaries.

sorry my comment is over the top for me...so I edit it......bark

I remember when I used to watch him on even stevens :P