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Serial Killer Claims Responsibility for OJ Simpson Murders: Do You Believe It?

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A new documentary on the Investigation Discovery network contains an apparent confession from a serial killer, claiming responsibility for the murders of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman. However, according to TMZ, Goldman's father doesn't believe this confession, and claims that it's all promotion for the documentary.

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Serial killer Fred Rogers allegedly claims that OJ Simpson, who was acquitted for the double murder but is still considered guilty by many, actually paid him to break into the home of Nicole Brown and steal $20,000, and to kill her if necessary.

But Fred Goldman is far from convinced, and once again reasserted his belief: "OJ Simpson murdered Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. The criminal trial showed overwhelming and monumental evidence that OJ Simpson was the killer. There was no contrary evidence other than guess, innuendo, and rumor." He added that "Nothing would change the fact that OJ Simpson murdered these people in cold blood." Still, do you believe Fred Rogers' confession?
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  • Aqua Surf 2012/11/20 20:56:57
    No
    Aqua Surf
    +16
    LOL, OJ is the black Raskolnikov; the bloody evidence was in his car, his room, on his clothes, it was all over the place. Despite the overwhelming evidence, he got away with murder and Ron and Nicole became 2 more victims of Political Correctness. This latest Confessing Sam just wants his 15 minutes and Investigation Discovery just wants higher ratings. It's intelligence insulting.

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  • Spyro 2012/12/16 22:56:44
    No
    Spyro
    +1
    First off, the case could have been solved if they had made Simpson relax his hand when he was trying the gloves on, if you look closely he stretches his fingers out so they would have a harder time getting the gloves on and fitting them on to his hands. No, I think he did it, also there was blood from the victims in his car from what I heard.
  • Carlo Spyro 2012/12/17 06:20:03
    Carlo
    Sorry but I use leather gloves a lot for work and they can shrink from moisture, even if that moisture was blood. Marsha Clark deserves the all the blame on that blunder. Also OJ could have used gloves too small on purpose. Yes its crazy to think something like the blood of the victims would not be very damming evidence to be found in your vehicle, but if you get the inference to the jury of a police conspiracy, it can become nothing at all.
  • George 2012/12/15 06:02:06
    Yes
    George
    +1
    If memory serves... all the porking prosecution had was circumstantial evidence. Of course it's believable but the case needs to be re-opened w/a new suspect, evidence, etc to prove it out,
  • Carlo George 2012/12/17 06:23:53 (edited)
    Carlo
    Your not talking about the OJ case are you? There was a great deal of tangible evidence as well.
  • Carlo 2012/12/13 12:09:56 (edited)
    No
    Carlo
    731 to 212 on 12/13/12

    Thats enough for me to say no matter how hard the OJ pr crew tries it cant resurrect that scumbag. And for good reason, the guy was so guilty only a jury of complete morons could have acquitted him. But DNA and all they did. All I can say is good job to the defense team. Had they not got that female juror kicked off for no reason it would have been a mistrial and the second one would have hung him. But hey justice is blind. He is locked away in Nevada for a long long long time, to which sentence he would never have received, if he had not committed the murders in California.
  • George Carlo 2013/01/02 07:56:47
    George
    Whatever one's argument the bungling prosecution & 4-months of fame seemingly more vital to Judge Ito than his responsibility to make sure blind & just guidelines are paramount in his court where the guilt or innocence of the accused is to be determined.

    Thus, the responsibility ultimately falls to the Judge in his/her court to determine admissible evidence, witnesses(?), etc. & whether or not the system was above reproach from arresting officers, detectives, evidence handling and ultimately prosecution team.

    The question never given a satisfactory answer was how one man albeit w/a knife used it to murder two people w/o anyone hearing a sound especially in the quiet peaceful neighborhood the crime took place. Evidence showed Goldman, a young & athletic man put up quite a fight yet not a sound.


    I digress... The American Justice System, the reason for trials which determine the guilt or innocence of the accused is to give Society faith in the system. If and when the individuals who make up that system bungle, run their mouths and act as stupidly as the prosecution in the Simpson-Goldman, Brown case the prosecution deservedly loses the case.

    It may not so much be American laws per se that give society civility but rather an assurance, increasingly quaint that any such law applies...

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    Whatever one's argument the bungling prosecution & 4-months of fame seemingly more vital to Judge Ito than his responsibility to make sure blind & just guidelines are paramount in his court where the guilt or innocence of the accused is to be determined.

    Thus, the responsibility ultimately falls to the Judge in his/her court to determine admissible evidence, witnesses(?), etc. & whether or not the system was above reproach from arresting officers, detectives, evidence handling and ultimately prosecution team.

    The question never given a satisfactory answer was how one man albeit w/a knife used it to murder two people w/o anyone hearing a sound especially in the quiet peaceful neighborhood the crime took place. Evidence showed Goldman, a young & athletic man put up quite a fight yet not a sound.


    I digress... The American Justice System, the reason for trials which determine the guilt or innocence of the accused is to give Society faith in the system. If and when the individuals who make up that system bungle, run their mouths and act as stupidly as the prosecution in the Simpson-Goldman, Brown case the prosecution deservedly loses the case.

    It may not so much be American laws per se that give society civility but rather an assurance, increasingly quaint that any such law applies to all equally and the system is staffed at every level, every position by persons who are above reproach. Less would, does suggest we're already lost

    It must make those blameless such as yourself feel quite well when looking in the mirror and convincing yourself that you're no scumbag like Simpson. For perspective think how Christ gave his life not just for a friend or a good man but for those as well who would despise him & hate him for whom he is and what desires in each of us. That is all we as individuals should be comparing ourselves to.

    I am no particular fan Simpson or otherwise, however, as the crimes against the deceased go unsolved I find interesting that evidence emerged and will or has likely been smothered regarding the possibility of a different and unassociated killer.
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  • Carlo George 2013/01/02 16:56:36 (edited)
    Carlo
    Yes I agree with your premise on Judicial system in this country. You may have read other posts I have made on this thread, if not I invite you to. One point I made was the fact that so many lessons were learned about high profile cases and televised proceedings which reverberated throughout the country. Therefore the acquittal was worth every bit the mistakes these lessons have given us. Judge Ito and all.

    That said, the abilities to over take someone of good size is simple. Ron was encountered separately, with the element of surprise. You put in a deadly weapon and the shock that sets in, leaves covering their mouths the only forethought. Oh and a psychopath personality. Clearly this was a crime of passion and a whole lot of it. OJ had a history. Another I said was the slow speed chase. You can dress a pig and lipstick, but OJ should never have walked with that evidence. Regardless of whether it was allowed or not. OJ created that piece of evidence albeit the court of public opinion mostly for that, it has to stick in the minds of jurors.

    This trial shows all does not apply equally. Less may mean we are already lost, your right. I think there are a great many people we should be comparing ourselves to, with many in our era as well. I hope your not offended, but there are thos...



    Yes I agree with your premise on Judicial system in this country. You may have read other posts I have made on this thread, if not I invite you to. One point I made was the fact that so many lessons were learned about high profile cases and televised proceedings which reverberated throughout the country. Therefore the acquittal was worth every bit the mistakes these lessons have given us. Judge Ito and all.

    That said, the abilities to over take someone of good size is simple. Ron was encountered separately, with the element of surprise. You put in a deadly weapon and the shock that sets in, leaves covering their mouths the only forethought. Oh and a psychopath personality. Clearly this was a crime of passion and a whole lot of it. OJ had a history. Another I said was the slow speed chase. You can dress a pig and lipstick, but OJ should never have walked with that evidence. Regardless of whether it was allowed or not. OJ created that piece of evidence albeit the court of public opinion mostly for that, it has to stick in the minds of jurors.

    This trial shows all does not apply equally. Less may mean we are already lost, your right. I think there are a great many people we should be comparing ourselves to, with many in our era as well. I hope your not offended, but there are those who believe the sacrifice of Jesus is something a man may or may not have been a great many years ago. Many being put to death have had great tales of power or coming from power to enact a lesson on humanity in the future. You must accept other translations of history by sensible people if you accept yours, that is only fair.

    Honestly I watched every day of the trial and have watched many others on Court TV.
    The level of tangible evidence in this case was much more and held to a higher standard than most people would have been offered, just because of who he was. A defense puts up a case and if the person has means that case can take on life. This is why any lawyer will say there is no such thing as a slam dunk case.
    I'm confident that OJ did it, as I am the day I was born. Solely.
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  • Diddley Squat 2012/11/27 19:57:07
    Yes
    Diddley Squat
    +1
    It's entirely possible. I saw the documentary and Rogers claims to have a unique and expensive lapel pin stolen from Nicole's house.It is a fact that she went out with him a couple of times. And he was someone that the defense team looked at in the weeks after the double murder.

    Still, at the end of the day, I think the key to the case is not Fay Resnick but rather Brett Cantor. He was Ron Goldman's business partner and friend. And a year earlier he was murdered late at night on a sidewalk in Brentwood in an almost identical fashion. That would make Ron and not Nicole the real target of the killer or killers.
  • Carlo Diddley... 2012/12/17 08:00:20
    Carlo
    The problem with all of this is OJ's behavior. Innocent men dont do slow speed chases with a gun in the vehicle.
  • Elizabeth Raggett 2012/11/27 19:55:42
    No
    Elizabeth Raggett
    +1
    O J is the KILLER! He just had a really great attorney who did his job and OJ could afford it. This guy has two death sentances, one in florida and one in Califonia. And Florida is coming soon - he is trying to get California to open this case back up so that will buy him time and delay both of his executions. And that's my personal opinion.
  • jose Elizabe... 2012/11/28 13:03:15
    jose
    +1
    His son did the murders, oj covered it up , does not matter n e more
  • Elizabe... jose 2012/11/29 14:09:10
    Elizabeth Raggett
    +1
    why would his son do it? Why?
  • Carlo jose 2012/12/13 12:24:18
    Carlo
    Why dont we just say it was his other personality that did it. I'll buy that one for a dollar.
  • Carlo Elizabe... 2012/12/13 12:17:00
    Carlo
    Sorry Missy, but you need to educate yourself about our judicial system. Once acquitted for a crime no matter if you call a press conference and admit it with all the gory details, you can never be charged again for that crime. Double Jeopardy! No no no not the game show. lol
  • Elizabe... Carlo 2012/12/13 13:49:34
    Elizabeth Raggett
    +1
    Sorry sir but I think you need to go back and read my original answer -"OJ is guilty". I don't need to educate myself on the judicial system, I get it and I understand the aquittal process. He can never be tried for this again. Only civilly, which he was and he was found guilty. I really don't understand why you felt the need to attack my answer. Apparently you didn't read it or got mine totally confused with someone elses. Maybe you need to get better educated - maybe learn how to read.
  • Carlo Elizabe... 2012/12/17 05:53:09 (edited)
    Carlo
    Touche. Apparently my reading comprehension needs work your right. I see now it was this other guy you were speaking of with the executions in both states, which is kinda crazy, but legalities. And yes civilly OJ was. I wonder if the Goldman's got the memorabilia OJ was trying recover in Vegas by strong arm after all. I would love to blame this mistake on all the ignorance I do actually read on this site quite correctly, but its all mine. Sorry.
  • Elizabe... Carlo 2012/12/17 21:14:49
    Elizabeth Raggett
    +1
    Isn't it quite funny that the bastard still ended up going to jail. hahahaha He got up to 30 years for his burlgary/robbery. All that money he paid out to the dream team, and they did a stellar job, but in the end, he still ends up in jail. What a freakin ego this monster has? I hope he never gets out! Thanks for the apology.
  • Carlo Elizabe... 2012/12/18 02:10:49
    Carlo
    Although this guy was acquitted and ostracized by mainstream society, but glorified by many still and had means. Which is to say he could have still lived a comfortable enough life in obscurity. The criminal mind always seems to gravitate towards like minded individuals no matter how dangerous the association may be. Throw in a lot of arrogance and the ego you speak of and its just a matter of time before they are in trouble again. There is no such thing as the perfect crime and I think the demons in his own mind haunted him. From what I understand he has to do 20 of those years before he is eligible for parole. Then the tough Nevada state parole board. You can bet members of that board will have no sympathy for OJ Simpson.

    When we make mistakes apologies are the right thing to do even if by chance someone gets the idea they may have been half right, although I wasn't. That way the ability to see the mistake for what is can be done and hopefully not repeated. Well in a perfect world I guess.
  • Elizabe... Carlo 2012/12/19 18:37:28
    Elizabeth Raggett
    +1
    Well these kinds of people also have the mentality that they are untouchable. They got away with something and so, "they won't catch me". But how ironic that they did at something else. No one is infallable and untouchable. Let me say this, "What goes around, comes around" and it deffinitely did this time.

    And as far as the apology, we're friends, lol.
  • Carlo Elizabe... 2012/12/20 13:21:01
    Carlo
    :^)
  • kashmir... Carlo 2013/01/26 18:15:04
    kashmirknight
    +1
    I hate to admit it.....Not because of O.J. but because we suck...But I'm a Bills Fan... :(

    Sorry, couldn't resist.
  • Carlo kashmir... 2013/01/27 11:46:52
    Carlo
    :^)
  • Tylurr 2012/11/27 19:39:59
  • Carlo Tylurr 2012/12/17 06:30:59
    Carlo
    Did I have another reading comprehension blunder or was that just a racial comment. If it was shame on you.
  • Tylurr Carlo 2012/12/17 16:46:01
    Tylurr
    +1
    Reading comprehension blunder.

    I was quoting something from a show that perfectly explained my point. He was let go based on fear that people would riot if he wasn't, thanks to his lawyer playing the race card.
  • Carlo Tylurr 2012/12/18 02:58:55 (edited)
    Carlo
    Well if your theory is correct based upon a "show" perfectly explaining your point. Then the jurors would have had to come up with that in the 90 minutes they deliberated. Its makes no sense for the jury to be concerned with the ramifications for their decisions, but they made that decision based upon the beliefs they had sitting through the complete trial. This too was a mistake on their part. Jury instructions are explicitly given to them not to based any decisions on what was said during the trial but to first go over all evidence that has been allowed and apply it to the law in the state of California and ask for read back on any testimony that may have been given if necessary.

    There were over 500 pieces of tangible evidence that could not have been reviewed in that short amount of time. What that jury did is whats called nullification. They disregarded the instructions and the law and made a decision based upon their personal beliefs to his innocence or guilt, because they were sequestered, tired and wanted to go home. The judge in this case seeing this nullification, made a cautious decision not to announce the verdict until the next morning to allow emotions to calm down and allow police to prepare for any protests. It was also said I believe that you could see it in OJ...






    Well if your theory is correct based upon a "show" perfectly explaining your point. Then the jurors would have had to come up with that in the 90 minutes they deliberated. Its makes no sense for the jury to be concerned with the ramifications for their decisions, but they made that decision based upon the beliefs they had sitting through the complete trial. This too was a mistake on their part. Jury instructions are explicitly given to them not to based any decisions on what was said during the trial but to first go over all evidence that has been allowed and apply it to the law in the state of California and ask for read back on any testimony that may have been given if necessary.

    There were over 500 pieces of tangible evidence that could not have been reviewed in that short amount of time. What that jury did is whats called nullification. They disregarded the instructions and the law and made a decision based upon their personal beliefs to his innocence or guilt, because they were sequestered, tired and wanted to go home. The judge in this case seeing this nullification, made a cautious decision not to announce the verdict until the next morning to allow emotions to calm down and allow police to prepare for any protests. It was also said I believe that you could see it in OJ's face when the verdict was read, he already knew the verdict. It was leaked to him by the sheriffs dept back in his cell that night. Yes he had fans there as well.

    The jury in Brentwood did the same nullification in acquitting the three police officers for the beating of Rodney King, but in that decision it opened wounds deep in the minority community seeing the police get away with the crimes they committed on video tape, knowing not one of them would ever get that break if it were a minority on video tape. Not even OJ Simpson. And if it were three minority cops beating on a white guy they would have probably been found guilty. A riot was inevitable.

    When you brutally murder your wife and her friend in a crime of passion. There is no such thing as a race card. Only in the sensationalism by the media covering the case.
    These lessons were learned by the courts and reverberated throughout the country for televised proceedings. Which made those lessons every bit worth the acquittal.

    I'm sorry but you have been misinformed. But you were right my comprehension to your statement was probably wrong and you didnt make a racial slur. Sorry.
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  • Tylurr Carlo 2012/12/18 18:03:50
    Tylurr
    +1
    First off, I never claimed that I knew it was correct because of a show. It was a quote that summed up my views in a nutshell.

    The jury KNEW the ramifications, BECAUSE they were brought into the courtroom. If you actually read into that, you would know that. The entire case was, in essence, a mistrial, but the problem with the justice system is that if it errors in the people's favor, you can't mulligan on it.

    And if you actually read up on the trial, you would know that there WAS a race card. Sensationalism, yes. The media blew it up. Which caused more people to become aware. Which caused more of a threat to the general public. This is WHY sensationalism is dangerous to people: lies are believed by the public, fed into and, eventually, become the truth.

    And yes. We do have Court TV. I don't know what the hell you're talking about. (Look up In Session. A couple of sick days watching it and I knew about the Casey Anthony case WELL before anyone else. All it is is a live feed of the courtroom, with some commentary from others watching. Not too much bias, but there is some in more extreme cases. If you're smart enough to look past it, it's actually interesting.)

    Your misunderstanding is beyond forgiven, as I figured it was INEVITABLE someone would take it in a way that was directed at him, or as my own words.
  • Tylurr Tylurr 2012/12/18 18:07:39
    Tylurr
    +1
    Reading over it, though, I see how you could confuse what I said with me actually getting my information from said show. I understand that bit.
  • Carlo Tylurr 2013/01/02 17:51:24
    Carlo
    +1
    Recognition is the greatest fix to miscommunication. Thank you.
  • Carlo Tylurr 2013/01/02 17:40:12 (edited)
    Carlo
    You know I assumed they didnt have Court TV anymore because it went away on cable here and the courts being so reluctant to allow camera's since this case. Well it may have moved to digital and I dont get it, so my mistake. You only have to go as far as the local news to see sensationalism on a daily basis.

    Personally the race card thing was only a defense claim, although weak. When you kill someone so horrendously, its hard to see race to me. To much goes to behavior present and past. Also error on behalf of the state is only reviewed if there is a conviction. Checks and balances are awarded to those with counsel that have the resources and the will to find them on appeal. Thats why it takes so long to invoke a death sentence. We want to be sure as hell before we kill them and those mistakes are still the worse tragedy of our Judicial system.

    Honestly the jury had no reason to believe that a riot would occur because of the verdict. A guilty verdict against OJ would not have caused any riots, because too many blacks thought OJ was guilt as shiit too. Your mixing up the verdict with the Rodney King case. That was a powder keg ready to explode, that every black man or woman in the country had emotions for.
  • Tylurr Carlo 2013/01/02 19:22:30
    Tylurr
    I will agree to disagree with you, since at this point, our only disagreement is that I think the jury figured that OJ's conviction would have sparked a mass controversy.
  • macbeth 2012/11/27 17:14:46
    No
    macbeth
    +1
    I still remember the crazy TV footage of him careering down the freeway.
  • Carlo macbeth 2012/12/17 06:33:18
    Carlo
    Yeah and no juror could put that out of their mind either as you have not. Yet he was acquitted.
  • ducdodger 2012/11/27 16:57:21
    No
    ducdodger
    This guy continues to claim he has killed somemany people yet he still can not produce the bodies and has take the police on several wild goose chases. As far as nicole and ron goes all he had to do was read about the trial and he could come up with reasonable claimson commiting the murders.
  • chris 2012/11/27 16:03:24
    No
    chris
    Hell no!
  • L1 2012/11/27 15:45:20
    No
    L1
    I remember when this came out, and OJ is guilty, but because the LAPD messed this up, he got acquitted.
  • Lee 2012/11/27 04:05:38
    Yes
    Lee
    +1
    This case will never be solved..
  • Carlo Lee 2012/12/13 12:25:40
    Carlo
    You mean the OJ case? What planet are you from?
  • Lee Carlo 2012/12/15 16:46:20
    Lee
    +1
    If the OJ case is the topic, then that's obviously what I mean. What planet are you from? Get off my opinion.
  • Carlo Lee 2012/12/17 06:40:21 (edited)
    Carlo
    I hate to burst your bubble but people are also commenting on the serial killer as well. I will say before I "get off" your opinion, the reason I was thinking you may have been speaking of the serial killer is because only a fuking moron would think OJ was innocent with all the "evidence" presented. Even if they were not jurors. Sorry but in case your ignorance doesnt allow you to understand, this site is suppose to warrant someone to "get on" your opinion. Speak with some intelligence and you will probably just get raves. Nuff said!
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