The definition of what constitutes abuse is sliding so far that soon picking one's nose in front of kids will be considered abuse worthy of State intervention!
There are definite cases in which the State needs to protect kids from their parents. But unless the kids are in physical danger, sexual danger, or their health is in jeopardy, parents should pretty much rule how their kids are raised without fear that some government agency is going to snatch the kids.
PUBLIC OPINION > Octomom's Kids Should Be Taken Away
SodaHead Celebs
2012/04/26 13:00:00
Nadya "Octomom" Suleman has 14 kids, and her money troubles are no private matter. When she posed nude for a tabloid in December, she said it was for the money. But just how bad is she hurting? Based on a handful of photographs TMZ got a hold of recently, pretty friggin' bad. Her walls are covered in graffiti, she's got training toilets out back, the kids appear dirty and pantless, and there are even some shots of a door wedged shut by a chair. It was bad enough to get the Orange County Department of Children and Family Services on the case, so we asked the public if she should lose custody.
As much as it pains some of us to say it, those kids might need stability more than they need their mommy. The pictures are bad, and her public persona doesn't do much to quell suspicion. The pictures were reportedly taken by her hairstylist, and the Top Opinion noted, "[Am I] the only one who has a problem with her being able to afford a HAIR STYLIST while her kids live this way?" There are clearly some confused priorities in place here. On the other hand, it's tough to condone prying kids from the hands of their mother, especially when you don't know the whole story. Not everyone was willing to make the call.
No Sympathy From Young Voters
Not only did the youngest voters support taking Suleman's children away from her, but pretty much every age group under 45 was two-thirds in favor. Older voters were about 21% less likely on average, but even then it was a few points below a split decision. No demographic weighed too heavily in Suleman's favor.
Not only did the youngest voters support taking Suleman's children away from her, but pretty much every age group under 45 was two-thirds in favor. Older voters were about 21% less likely on average, but even then it was a few points below a split decision. No demographic weighed too heavily in Suleman's favor.Parents Get a Little Protective
Though support for removing the kids from her custody ran well into parenting age, when we separated the parents specifically we found less enthusiasm. Parents were 21% more sympathetic to Suleman. Few parents can bear to pull kids away from their parents. Those without kids were less able to put themselves in her shoes.
Though support for removing the kids from her custody ran well into parenting age, when we separated the parents specifically we found less enthusiasm. Parents were 21% more sympathetic to Suleman. Few parents can bear to pull kids away from their parents. Those without kids were less able to put themselves in her shoes.Drinkers Don't Trust Octomom
Interestingly enough, the voters you might presume to have the most questionable judgment were significantly more likely to throw up a red flag. Drinkers were 18% more likely to say Octomom's kids should be taken away. Smokers also leaned more toward lost custody, but only by 5%.
Interestingly enough, the voters you might presume to have the most questionable judgment were significantly more likely to throw up a red flag. Drinkers were 18% more likely to say Octomom's kids should be taken away. Smokers also leaned more toward lost custody, but only by 5%.If you'd like to vote on this question, dig deeper into the demographics, or engage in existing discussion about the topic, visit our poll about Octomom. We'd love to hear from you!
Top Opinion
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cellophane 2012/04/26 16:22:09
"Octomom" has seriously crossed the line and because of social welfare laws the already strained taxpayers have to foot the bill. She already had six kids before she took the bizarre detour to become artificially inseminated and have more. She has been outright irresponsible, selfish, plain reckless and single but what man would want to have anything to do with her at this point. The doctor who agreed to fertilize her should be stripped of his license and not allowed to practice anywhere in the US and Suleman should be sterilized.
Those of you who think we should not judge and who haven't walked in her shoes are idiots. No, as a taxpayer and a parent it is my right to judge this woman and what she has done. You, who believe that we should help her out, i have a proposal. We raise your taxes enough to cover Suleman's expenses and you pay for it. Don't go dragging responsible people down with the irresponsible lot.
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"Octomom" has seriously crossed the line and because of social welfare laws the already strained taxpayers have to foot the bill. She already had six kids before she took the bizarre detour to become artificially inseminated and have more. She has been outright irresponsible, selfish, plain reckless and single but what man would want to have anything to do with her at this point. The doctor who agreed to fertilize her should be stripped of his license and not allowed to practice anywhere in the US and Suleman should be sterilized.
Those of you who think we should not judge and who haven't walked in her shoes are idiots. No, as a taxpayer and a parent it is my right to judge this woman and what she has done. You, who believe that we should help her out, i have a proposal. We raise your taxes enough to cover Suleman's expenses and you pay for it. Don't go dragging responsible people down with the irresponsible lot.
I am not a Big Government person by any stretch. At this point guess her kids should stay put but if it becomes apparent that there is psychological and health issues then it is also societies duty to remove them from harm or neglect. Neglect is a form of abuse whether intentional or not. Judging by the many responses from clueless people here we, as a society, might be in more trouble than I thought.
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Her kids are not in any immediate danger. Her kids look healthy and developing at a normal rate. Her kids do not appear to be physically or mentally abused.
Mind your own damn business people. And leave this woman alone! She is doing the best she can with the lot she was dealt.
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I’m sure Ms. Suleman is doing the very best she can and to me using this young woman life as a joke doesn’t say much about the human race. Nadya needs understanding not ridicule I will not argue that she did this to herself but she’s young and young people don’t think long term. But taking away her children isn’t the answer; I rather see my tax dollars helping her than hurting her and her children. Maybe the state could offer Ms. Suleman some childcare while she looks for employment or get some training? She and her family are not jokes, Nadya just needs a friend and probably a shoulder to cry on.
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