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Penn State Slammed With NCAA Sanctions: Did They Deserve It?

Chris D 2012/07/23 20:00:00
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The heavy hand of the NCAA came down and slapped Penn State football with harsh sanctions, erasing all the wins from the years 1998-2011, prohibiting them from playing in the post season for the next four years, and topped it off with a hefty $60 million fine. Do the Penn State football programs deserve this huge slap because of the actions and in-actions of Joe Paterno? Oh yeah. And that statue of Joe? Gone.

CBSNEWS.COM reports:
Failure of senior university leaders to stop Jerry Sandusky from sexually abusing children leads to severe punishment
university leaders jerry sandusky sexually abusing children leads severe punishment

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  • pete 2012/08/12 22:02:59
    Some but not all
    pete
    Many player's career opportunity shattered by this perv and the over reaction of the NCAA.
  • SICARIO 2012/08/05 02:35:35
    Some but not all
    SICARIO
    +1
    Why are we punishing all the players too insn't that nonsensical..
  • Ramón 2012/08/02 06:48:41
    Yes
    Ramón
    When sports are more important than the people in the sport, then it is time to reconsider the place sports has in our schools.
  • Dave 007 2012/07/28 13:15:54
    Yes
    Dave 007
    In time, most will forget, like Kolby raping that girl.
  • Saye Saye 2012/07/26 22:29:54
    Yes
    Saye Saye
    It was a bizarre cover up.
  • sokoyah 2012/07/26 19:40:05
    No
    sokoyah
    the school itself did nothing wrong
  • Dave 007 sokoyah 2012/07/28 13:16:33
    Dave 007
    And the school wasn't punished. The football team was.
  • Bob sokoyah 2012/07/28 20:11:45
    Bob
    are you in outer space,nuts
  • sokoyah Bob 2012/07/28 23:23:53
    sokoyah
    you are a msrbe pos
  • fightingquip 2012/07/26 19:37:59
    No
    fightingquip
    Yeah, sure. So Penn State never won all of those games. And the Steelers never won a Superbowl. And Lincoln was never assassinated. And the World Trade Center is still standing. Give me a break. Sandusky was the criminal, take it out on him. What they have done to Penn State and Joe Paterno's legacy is wrong. If they want to make an example they should hang Jerry Sandusky by the testicles in State College and let his victims use him as a pinata.
  • Bannor ... fightin... 2012/08/03 03:19:16
    Bannor Haruchai
    Sandusky got away for as long as he did because of Paterno who actively prevented university officials from reporting his assistant coach from being reported as far back as 2001.
    Sandusky was an abuser, Paterno was an abettor and only one'll face the music.
  • M'lud 2012/07/26 18:04:50
    Yes
    M'lud
    +2
    As demonstrated in court, not only was a crime commited on campus, but because of the systemic corruption within Penn State's athletic department as well as the senior administration a conspiracy to conceal that crime took place. Beyond that, by not pursuing the proper course, they enabled those crimes to continue thereby becoming co-conspirators in future crimes. I'm not sure the sanctions go far enough. The program didn't become corrupt in just four short years. I doubt if four years will be enough to make that house clean enough to trust.

    "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" – Edmund Burke
  • MrsB 2012/07/26 15:40:02
    Yes
    MrsB
    +1
    Hopefully this will set an example of what will happen if this goes on somewhere else. Sickening.
  • Tre 2012/07/26 14:07:57 (edited)
    Some but not all
    Tre
    +1
    Everybody involved in the wrongdoings deserved to be punished. I just don't understand what people will get out of erasing Penn St's victories from 1998-2012. That didnt have anything to do with the scandal. The kids playing the games had nothing to do with this and they are being punished for no reason. They need to just hammer Sandusky and the administration members who knew individually.
  • fightin... Tre 2012/07/26 19:39:57
    fightingquip
    +1
    Thank you. Couldn't have said it better
  • ancientmath 2012/07/26 03:44:56
    No
    ancientmath
    I said no because it's like sweeping it all under the rug. "If it doesn't exist, it didn't happen" seems to be the status quo.
  • gidianedwards97 2012/07/25 22:39:40
    Yes
    gidianedwards97
    +1
    Yes you could say a wake up call
  • deBrice 2012/07/25 14:34:20 (edited)
  • Patric deBrice 2012/07/25 16:32:58
    Patric
    +1
    hmm,, odd logic,
    stay on topic,
    seems to me , penn state earned the sanctions ,,
  • deBrice Patric 2012/07/25 16:57:50
    deBrice
    Why odd logic? There is stories about priest raping Children all the time no?
  • Patric deBrice 2012/07/25 17:02:40
    Patric
    +1
    topic, penn state..

    penn state,, topic....
  • deBrice Patric 2012/07/25 20:46:09
    deBrice
    Topic is sex abuse at penn state.
  • Patric deBrice 2012/07/26 11:10:56
    Patric
    there you go,, good job...

    and your thoughts on penn state punishment ?
  • deBrice Patric 2012/07/26 17:32:05 (edited)
    deBrice
    +1
    I think the logic is wrong. Jerry Sandusky is guilty, not the coach, not the school. Having Paterno accused might be fair if it's proven that he was somehow aware of Sandusky's sexual abuses with Penn State's football players. But with this kind of logic pushed to the extrem, then the state that finance part of the school is guilty, then the federal government is guilty, then the people who finance the government is guilty...

    What are you gonna say to the players, "We know you've been abused, here is justice: you also gonna lose the title you earned."
  • Patric deBrice 2012/07/26 18:03:18
    Patric
    +1
    well, looks like we are going to have to disagree..

    lets look at what we DO agree on..
    sandusky is guilty of rape of children, sodomy with minors. given.

    the president and the other guy will have their day in court to see if they are guilty of a crime.

    paterno's estate will have their day in civil court.

    side note : penn state chose to accept the sanctions for a reason .. and I think the reason is because they agree that they earned the sanctions..

    no appeal, no squeling , not a mummer ,,, just took it as , IMO , they should and accept the fact that the university failed , for 15 years , those young boys...
  • deBrice Patric 2012/07/26 22:56:03
    deBrice
    It looks like we don't agree on much ;)
  • Patric deBrice 2012/07/27 10:22:54
    Patric
    +1
    well it seems we agree on the NCAA sanctions were wrong..

    your think it was too harsh , I think they were too easy ,,

    double digit child rape , that went on for 15 years ?

    penn state got off easy ,,, IMO.
  • swim2bgood deBrice 2012/08/01 03:03:11
    swim2bgood
    +1
    I have to agree here. What's the difference? Both are ridiculous.
  • aslan 2012/07/25 12:55:59
    Some but not all
    aslan
    +1
    My prayers are with the young men who were molested. However, I do not feel that the mistakes, by the adults, should take away the wins of the players and post season games.
  • clance 2012/07/25 12:17:54
    No
    clance
    The school wasn't the ones making the decision not to come forward but individuals within the school. Hold the individuals accountable that made the decision both criminally and civically but by punishing the school as a whole you're including individuals that had no part in the coverup like the student body, employees, and administrators/trustees (appointed after the fact) who had no part. I can see the $60 Million fine to establish a Foundation but the rest of the punishment impacts those after Sandusky left in 1999, the currently foremention as well as those entering the university in the next 4 years who were never involved in this case.
  • Patric clance 2012/07/25 16:39:09
    Patric
    +2
    the student body , etc, are harmed in what way ?
    the statue of paterno tore down harmed what student /
    the $60 mill. might harm the students , but probably not.. penn state does not pay $60 mill, the $$ will be taken out $12 mill at a time from the big 10 proceeds.for 5 years.
    for the next 4 years , students can elect to go to an other university, it is not mandatory to go.

    seems like you have attempted to have an innocent victim here, in the school or the students.

    and you may have been blinded to the actual victims.. the children raped in the football locker room , then penn state officials hide , suppress , the actions for 15 years..

    penn state did not deserve the punishment ... penn state EARNED it....
  • swim2bgood Patric 2012/08/01 03:05:08
    swim2bgood
    The folks that EARNED it are no longer at Penn State and will be served justice in due time. Those that are remaining were not at fault. You don't punish innocents to set an example, that is the logic of tyrants and dictators.
  • Patric swim2bgood 2012/08/01 17:11:55
    Patric
    tyrants and dictators ?? not sure how you were trying to make that compairson..

    either way,,

    the university is made up of ... buildings, teachers, students.. that some would benifit from the actions of a few .. football $$ ,,, academics , etc. goes with the terriority ..
    and so does the results of the bad things that happen.. it is a University ,
    every one gets the good along with the bad..

    transfer out of penn state , do not go there , what ever , I do not see the big deal , in compairson , to the punishment the children had to endure , over a 15 year period , due to the actions of the " university "
  • Derbyhat 2012/07/25 06:21:24
    Some but not all
    Derbyhat
    To the leadership and coaching staff in those years of abuse, it may have been enough. For the students and players victimized by the scandal it was a massacre, massive overkill. I have detested Penn State for years over the condescending attitute of Penn Staters towards others and their educational choices, but I stand beside them here because the NCAA essentially gunned down the Penn State student body, past, present and future!
  • Bill 2012/07/25 02:09:22
    Yes
    Bill
    +2
    I grew up watching 'JoePA',so it's sad to see his legacy torn down.However,it's not NEARLY as sad as what these poor young boys went thru!
  • askmike Bill 2012/07/25 04:22:44
    askmike
    +1
    The poor boys went through hell because their coach and their administration valued the 64 million dollars the football program brought to the school every year more than the lives of the boys who were raped by a man who used the PSU facilities. Every time a team in a college loses scholarships and post season eligibility it is because those in charge of their sport betrayed them.
  • cc Bill 2012/07/25 07:48:22
    cc
    Unfortunately Joe pretty much gunned his own legacy down by his inaction.
  • techman 2012/07/25 02:08:33
    Yes
    techman
    +3
    It's been a sordid coverup by all, especially Joe Pa.
  • Eric 2012/07/25 02:08:27
    Yes
    Eric
    +1
    I realize this is a minority opinion but let's look at who broke the law. Sandusky obviously. And then the upper administration at PSU. The Grand Jury pointed at them and exonerated Paterno. Yes, Paterno should have reported the allegations directly to the police but instead took it to the administration who had a legal obligation to report it. They did not.
    The city, county, and state law enforcement and judical people knew about the first allegation and they were unable or unwilling to pursue it and Sandusky walked and continued his child molesting.
    So, yeah, throw the book at the football program if you want but the whole of Penn State is at fault here. And the whole athletic dept. Don't give me this crap about the power of Paterno. A superior is supposed to be in charge and the superiors failed. They could have fired Paterno in 2001. Instead they fired him in 2011, proving that they could.
  • aslan Eric 2012/07/25 12:52:11
    aslan
    +1
    I agree with you.
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