Katie Holmes Reportedly Sending Suri to Catholic School: Is It Better Than Scientology?

I appreciate your response. I am a Scientologist - and I can understand your point of view. Either way - it might interest you to know that this entire poll is based on a fallacy anyway - since there are no schools that teach the Scientology religion to 6 year olds! (LOL). It was obviously the intention of the person who created this poll to rig the poll because of their personal bias.

so scientology schools, lol http://exscientologykids.com/...

Actually... both are guaranteed to ravage her sanity, if having having two certifiably insane, famous DIVORCED parents AND being in the public eye doesn't get to her first!!

At least Catholicism wasn't made up by a science-fiction writer on a bet.

if you don't mind your child getting sexually abused....

Suri's female. The target of the Catholics are altar boys.

so that makes it better?....

No, it simply says that Suri isn't likely to be abused... and Suri was the kid we were talking about (I thought.)

o sure...little girls have been molested as well ...but the real point is...she is supporting a group that has been molesting kids for probably CENTURIES...

Little girls are called 'brides of Christ' and become nuns... but I agree that the group does molest kids on a wholesale basis... and then when the predators are discovered, instead of prosecuting them, they simply transfer them to a new hunting ground.

it's sick and sad...and yet millions world wide still support this cult from hell...The Apostle Peter never founded this organization ...

In September 2009, the Holy See stated "We know now that in the last 50 years somewhere between 1.5% and 5% of the Catholic clergy has been involved in sexual abuse cases", adding that this figure was comparable with that of other groups and denominations.Additionally, according to Newsweek magazine, the figure in the Catholic Church is similar to that in the rest of the adult population.[Wikipedia)

meaning?

But the rest of the population at least TRIES to prosecute the predators. The Catholic Church PROTECTS them.

As an atheist, I have to say neither

Anything is better then Scientology

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Of course. The religion that promotes morality is obviously better than the one that promotes immorality.

So, a religion that has this in it's holy book is moral?
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 "28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives." or
Leviticus 24:16 "16 anyone who blasphemes the name of the Lord is to be put to death. The entire assembly must stone them. Whether foreigner or native-born, when they blaspheme the Name they are to be put to death."
or Exodus 35:2
"For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death."
or Deuteronomy 7:1-2 "When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations . . . then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy." That's obviously a religion that promotes morality.

Yes, I trust God's moral system above a simple Atheist's. I am amazed that you don't realize that the Catholic Church doesn't support any of those views either.

All of those are in the Bible, and that's the holy book of Catholics, so how would the Catholic Church not support something in their holy book? Do they just pick and choose what to believe because their religious system is a failing story from centuries past. Also, you spelled Atheist wrong...

"so how would the Catholic Church not support something in their holy book?"
-Church policy isn't neccessarly built on obscure Biblical references.

"Do they just pick and choose what to believe because their religious system is a failing story from centuries past."
-No, they just don't integrate obscure moral codes that have changed with Jesus's coming. If you want to see how "moral" Athiests are why don't you look into the genocides known as the Reign of Terror, the Red Terror, the Great Purge, the Killing Fields, and the Burmese genocide (the country has renamed itself Myanmar, but the genocide still continues). The Athiests have killed more civilians than every other group combined.

Also, you spelled Atheist wrong

The Fourth Commandment is an obscure Biblical reference?

And talking about all the massacres committed by atheists is a pointless argument because there was no unifying belief system to motivate all those different atheists who had nothing in common besides their lack of religion to kill all those people. The same goes for massacres committed by people who just happen to be Christian (as opposed to massacres explicitly committed for religious reasons). You might as well argue that women are better than men because men have killed more people than women have.

"The Fourth Commandment is an obscure Biblical reference?"
-No, using the Sabbath to honor God is not obscure, but it was also not referenced in this conversation. As a matter of opinion, I don't see how that's related to the conversation at all.

"And talking about all the massacres committed by atheists is a pointless argument because there was no unifying belief system to motivate all those different atheists who had nothing in common besides their lack of religion to kill all those people."
-That is the point. When people have no religion or beliefs, they also have no morality. That's why these Atheists murdered so many people. It is inconvenient for you, but far from "pointless."

"The same goes for massacres committed by people who just happen to be Christian"
-All of the "massacres" committed by Christians put together killed less people than the Reign of Terror or the Great Purge alone. You have to look at events in context of significance.

"You might as well argue that women are better than men because men have killed more people than women have."
-An inaccurate deduction. If women had historically been in an equal number of political leaderships, then that could be fair to evaluate.

You Atheists can't figure out that murder is wrong. I just noted your religion's long history of genocide and calculated murder.

So, the Spanish Inquisition(3000 deaths), Roman Inquisition(1250 deaths), Medieval Inquisition(42 deaths), Portuguese Inquisition, French Wars of Religion(2 million deaths) , The Crusades(1 million deaths), Thirty Years Wars(3 million deaths), The Nazis (Hitler claimed in "Mein Kampf" that he believed in god and most Nazis were religious) 11.5 million people killed just for Genocide. ( http://frank.mtsu.edu/~bausti... )), The Troubles, in Ireland (3,524 deaths), Anders Breivik(a Christian that killed people in Norway in 2011, 77 deaths), The KKK (which is religiously affiliated), christian people that kill abortion doctors, the second Sudanese civil war (1 million deaths), the Lebanese civil war (130,000 deaths), and the Waco siege(85 dead) add up to less than the Great Purge? No, you need to do your math again, and I'm sure that I could find more atrocities by Christianity. That would go up if I added things from other religions too, so you saying that Atheist have killed more than any other group is a lie. Another thing is, communist countries being Atheistic make some sense so that people won't have conflicting views and that they would all worship the leader of that country like they were a god. Also, don't compare me to a Nazi just because I corrected your spelling of the word Atheist.

Hitler wasn't a Christian; many of his personal assistants and collegues have many records of his anti-Christian quotes. I will post those in response to this comment.

"so you saying that Atheist have killed more than any other group is a lie."
-No other single religion has consumed so many lifes. I challenge you to prove me wrong.

"add up to less than the Great Purge? No, you need to do your math again"
-Most schalarly sources state that the Great Purge consumed 23,000,000 lives, including those of children. 23 million does in fact outnumber 7 million (which is an overestimate compared to your numbers).

"Also, don't compare me to a Nazi just because I corrected your spelling of the word Atheist."
-gram·mar na·zi- A person who habitually corrects or criticizes the language usage of others, especially in situations where it is unnecessary e.g. an informal conversation http://www.google.com/#hl=en&...

oh god, your posting fake and disputed quotes now? http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/...

So quotes that were recorded by Hitler's secretary and colleges and are accepted by historians is "fake and disputed" now? You truly are delusional.

click the link. also there are a lot more there of him saying he's doing gods work, that are real.

Forgive me, but I don't believe that Wikiquote is more reliable than personal accounts from people who actually worked with Hitler every day.

keep telling yourself that.
translation: god with us http://imgur.com/XA49y

So traditional Byzantine military sayings like, "Got mit Uns" that existed in the German military before Hitler ever took power prove that Hitler was a Christian? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

How is that anything but a contrived delusion?

and yet why does this one have a swastika on it?

The saying was used on German military equipment since 1871; they just continued despite Hitler's hatred of Christianity. His Waffen SS had belts that said "My Honor is Loyalty" instead because he was uncomfortable with his personal guard having a Christian slogan on their belts.

and yet why are there so many quotes of him talking about how he is doing gods work?

You mean his public speeches? Do you think that an openly non-Christian politician would have ever gotten enough votes in very religious Interwar Germany? The Germans were desperate and willing to believe Hitler's lies. Hitler was insane and unstable but not a moron; even he understood that a single public anti-Christian statement would forever end his political career.

Since you like Wikipedia so much, why don't you read their article on Hitler's religious views? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...