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Is Rihanna a Real Artist?

Fergie 2012/08/29 19:00:00
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British post-punk band The Vaccines made headlines recently when guitarist Freddie Cowan claimed Rihanna isn't a real artist. His argument, as stated to Digital Spy, was "she has 15 writers, 15 songwriters and 15 producers all fighting for space on her albums and she's the face of it."

This sounds like the classic debate about whether pop artists have any credibility if they don't write their own songs, but what do you think? Do you consider Rihanna an artist?

NME.COM reports:
The Vaccines have hit out at Rihanna for failing to write her own music.
nme reports guitarist freddie cowan raps coldplay band earth

Read More: http://www.nme.com/news/the-vaccines/65790

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  • Gone Away JakeisHere 2012/08/29 22:30:56
    Gone Away
    +1
    Yes...but not a talented painter! Right?
  • JakeisHere Gone Away 2012/08/29 22:32:46
    JakeisHere
    +2
    How? I never painted anything?
  • Gone Away JakeisHere 2012/08/29 22:35:34
    Gone Away
    Your display, could qualify you as a design artist...it speaks nothing of your talent at it!
  • JakeisHere Gone Away 2012/08/29 22:43:04
    JakeisHere
    +2
    If I made the display yes, lets say I didn't though. I am not trying to argue her talent, just that she isn't an artist.
  • Gone Away JakeisHere 2012/08/29 22:46:08
    Gone Away
    Maybe you're misunderstanding me...I think she's an artist w/NO TALENT! As are many artists of all types!
  • laydeel... JakeisHere 2012/08/30 04:54:55
    laydeelapis
    Perhaps not by profession but you painted something. Whether it's good or bad in my opinion doesn't matter. I think what people here don't realize is that performing IS an art. Her art isn't in songwriting. That doesn't make her not an artist because her talent isn't in one particular thing. I can't play sports for my life but I am good at other things. Likewise, she doesn't/can't write songs, she's an artist BECAUSE she's good at other things.
  • JakeisHere laydeel... 2012/08/30 16:23:59
    JakeisHere
    No....I painted nothing. You should read my comment again.

    Performing is only an art if you CREATED the performance. Otherwise, its Karaoke. Which is what she does.

    Lip Syncing into a microphone, and dancing to something someone else choreographed for you, doesn't make you an artist in the slightest. Its the very definition of an entertainer.
  • laydeel... JakeisHere 2012/09/02 00:57:59
    laydeelapis
    Exactly, entertainer. Which is an art. And as a dancer, I take serious offense to that. Unless you've spent hours of your life in a studio, training until you ache everywhere, constantly practicing routines over and over to perfection, you're really not qualified to say that that doesn't make you an artist. How useful is a choreographer without a dancer to show off their work. How useful is a songwriter who can't sing without a singer to put their songs out there. We all have our talents. Not having one doesn't make you less of an artist. It just means you have a different art.
  • JakeisHere laydeel... 2012/09/04 01:00:47
    JakeisHere
    Being an Entertainer, does not make you an artist. As much as you wish it does.
  • JakeisHere JakeisHere 2012/09/04 01:01:25
    JakeisHere
    You can flip your flimsy argument pretty quickly, how useful is a dancer without a choreographer?
  • laydeel... JakeisHere 2012/09/11 21:29:29
    laydeelapis
    Pretty useful as most choreographers are former dancers. And I'm not saying choreography isn't an art. I'm saying they are both equally artistic. They need each other. Most choreographers are dancers that have been booted out by younger dancers. It is a physically demanding field and there's not a whole lot of career longevity in it.
  • laydeel... JakeisHere 2012/09/11 21:27:32
    laydeelapis
    I said before and I'll say it again. Entertaining is an art in and of itself.
  • Lili13 2012/08/29 22:09:23
    Yes, because...
    Lili13
    she is awesome
  • Twinkle 2012/08/29 22:00:20 (edited)
    Yes, because...
    Twinkle
    +2
    I really don"t know but a true artists couldn't give a damn if no one hears their music..." tumblr music is my life
  • Sinister Ken Doll™ 2012/08/29 21:57:38
    No, because...
    Sinister Ken Doll™
    +1
    when she makes a sculpture out of a grilled cheese sandwich then she can call herself an artist
  • cin 2012/08/29 21:54:19
    No, because...
    cin
    Yes and no. I like her music. But she's ridiculous. Fallin off the deep end. Jus keep makin that music tho n I don't care what she does lol
  • Fef 2012/08/29 21:46:53
    Yes, because...
    Fef
    +2
    Artists don't necessarily do everything... Look at Hollywood. I consider Ellen Barkin an actress even though she only reads words written by someone else and acts in a way directed by someone else.
  • FatherLiberty 2012/08/29 21:44:43
    Yes, because...
    FatherLiberty
    God damn computer!!!!! I clicked NO. She is just a face on stage, and quite frankly, not a great one in my opinion. She doesnt make any of her music.
  • JLM630 2012/08/29 21:43:08 (edited)
    Yes, because...
    JLM630
    Should have voted no. All the woman does well is sell herself. Sure hope she is investing wisely, because when her looks are gone, her so called talent goes with it!
  • Chloey Hamer 2012/08/29 21:43:05
    No, because...
    Chloey Hamer
    There is something about her I just don't like.
  • mckayla 2012/08/29 21:42:58
    No, because...
    mckayla
    She's a worthless trashy hoe that can't actually sing.
  • Michaela★ 2012/08/29 21:40:31
    No, because...
    Michaela★
    She used to have some good music and now.... it's trash. and her style? fails too. sorry but I think she sucks now, doesn't write her own music nor play any instruments and is just handed money, then again, alot of celebrities are and I've seen music ALOT worse than hers. It's just, I like artists that are more talented, skilled, passionate and down to earth which seems to be hard to find lately ):
  • JCLadybug 2012/08/29 21:39:55
    No, because...
    JCLadybug
    +1
    Honestly, I don't think any pop artist has credibility anyway. Even if they co-write their songs. Now if they write all their songs, lyrics and music by themselves....and arrange it (preferably...but that is getting picky)...then sure they are artists, but most are just part of a music industry machine.
  • Central Scrutinizer 2012/08/29 21:35:33
    Yes, because...
    Central Scrutinizer
    +2
    I think people would be surprised at how many artists do not write their own songs. Why does some have to write and sing to be an artist?

    There and were plenty of great writers that couldn't spell, Faulkner for example, who couldn't spell very well. Did that lack of talent make them any less of a storyteller?
  • Man_Bea... Central... 2012/08/29 21:47:03
    Man_Bear_Pig
    +1
    That's a bad comparison. Writers with poor grammar are still artists because they're inability doesn't interfere with their creative process. Rihanna has a great voice but you need more than that to be an artist.
  • Central... Man_Bea... 2012/08/29 21:48:42
    Central Scrutinizer
    +1
    First, I am no fan of Rhianna so I'm taking her side to support her. Would you call Elton John an artist? Would you call Adel and artist? The don't write their own songs.
  • Man_Bea... Central... 2012/08/29 22:26:52
    Man_Bear_Pig
    +1
    Personally, no. They are performers.
  • Central... Man_Bea... 2012/08/29 23:37:50
    Central Scrutinizer
    +2
    I don't agree but I respect your opinion.
  • Thatdude 2012/08/29 21:33:44
    No, because...
    Thatdude
    she doesn't write or play any instruments. The songs are handed to her and she just sings them. A true artist writes and produces their own music
  • LucidLoon 2012/08/29 21:33:05
    Yes, because...
    LucidLoon
    +3
    Performance is an art in and of itself.

    I would accept the argument that her albums aren't really "hers", though. With a lot of singers, it seems like it's the producers vision and whatever they say goes. But, not really a new trend there.
  • Esther Castrillo 2012/08/29 21:30:42
    Yes, because...
    Esther Castrillo
    +1
    she beautiful and she's a good actress and her songs r awesome! well some of them r annoying.....
  • RoyJLores 2012/08/29 21:28:15
    Yes, because...
    RoyJLores
    +3
    Very interesting subject does a vocalist/singer need to write his or her own songs in order to be a real artist?

    Many obviously think they do but throughout history we have had people that have a knack for writing songs but can't sing even in the shower and people that cannot write a single music note but can sing with the angels to say that a good singer is not an artist is just about the same thing as saying a good composer who cannot sing is not a real artist, it is simply a very incorrect and downright unfair way to see artists.


    Some people excel at one thing and others at another thing that's it.


    My 2 cents regards and God bless...
  • peter 2012/08/29 21:25:02
    No, because...
    peter
    +1
    No real talent and besides i dnt lyke her sorry music
  • Tastentier 2012/08/29 21:24:53
    Yes, because...
    Tastentier
    +2
    An actor is an artist, even when he didn't write his own lines.
  • YourCompanionCube 2012/08/29 21:24:44
    Yes, because...
    YourCompanionCube
    She's better than.....Miley, or...Gaga, Or....Bieber....Or....etc.
  • LoLyPopLy 2012/08/29 21:23:07
    Yes, because...
    LoLyPopLy
    Yes because she is very Pretty and she can act very beautiful.I love her and her songs.Love her From Azerbaijan,Baku•••
  • Balladeer-PWCM-POTL 2012/08/29 21:22:13
    No, because...
    Balladeer-PWCM-POTL
    +1
    she is eye candy...nothing more nothing less...I am betting she only sounds good thanks to a very good engineer
  • Joey 2012/08/29 21:21:47
    Yes, because...
    Joey
    +1
    Yes.. I don't like her stuff but she is an artiest.
  • rereblue 2012/08/29 21:14:23
    No, because...
    rereblue
    +1
    I don't find she has the natural talent for being a songwriter and singer. If she wrote it, and it had even just a LITTLE depth then there would be room for an argument. She makes money from it, good job for selling someone elses work.
  • Lashawn W 2012/08/29 21:12:40
    Yes, because...
    Lashawn W
    +2
    Yes because.......... she has 15 writers, 15 songwriters and 15 producers all fighting for space on her albums and she's the face of it
    The people complaining are normally nowhere near where she is on the Billboard charts so get over it!!

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