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Is Batman a Neo-Conservative?

spider_brad 2007/07/24 03:41:52
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It's time for a fun political poll. When I was in film school, we studied how we often view contemporary society through the lens of classical mythic archetypes (westerns, science fiction, etc.). These archetypes change as our culture changes. It's why you don't see so many westerns today, as they reflected values and ideologies that now seem quaint. At any rate, Batman has somehow managed to stand the test of time as a popular archetypal character in comics, television and films. But how?

The answer is simple. He's a chameleon. Certain aspects of his character shift with the culture, but his pursuit of justice has remained a constant. However, these days, particularly in the comics, his personality has led me to the conclusion that he shares far-Right, neo-conservative values. And that's fine. One of the important components of myths is to gain a better understanding ourselves and the world in which we live. That being said, here's my argument that today's Batty is more Dick Cheney than Adam West.

Batman is not above violating a criminal's civil liberties while performing an interrogation. He will routinely dangle a hoodlum out of a window to coerce a confession.

Batman conducts illegal, unwarranted surveillance on suspects and even his own allies on the Justice League.

Batman's alter-ego, Bruce Wayne, runs Wayne Enterprises, a corporation with dubious ties to sub-contractors that equip him with sophisticated, militaristic gadgets and vehicles.

A tragic event in his past shaped his one-man war on crime, which has since consumed him against all reason.

His presence in Gotham City has in effect exacerbated the crime wave, as his actions -- either directly or indirectly -- have created a host of super-criminals that perpetrate even more insidious acts of violence.

Batman does not condone the death penalty in the comics. However, in the films, he has often killed villains or allowed them to be killed by their own devices.

What do you think?
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  • TeaParty Patriot 2007/07/24 05:05:23
    No
    TeaParty Patriot
    +5
    What is a Neo-Conservative? A New Conservative sounds like an oxymoron. I am happy to consider Batman a Conservative if you think he stands for justice and fights crimes unlike the superheroes of the Left like ACLU-person who fights to free murderers from jail on a daily basis and jumps tall buildings in a single lawsuit

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  • Frodo 2009/05/13 02:38:30
    No
    Frodo
    Batman likes to "shake things up and catch the "bad guys" like the joker, penguin, riddler, mad hatter, catwoman, and any other Republican that double-crosses him or tortures him or otherwise breaks the law or commits war crimes etc.
  • Shane - oldschoolelf 2007/12/22 04:17:17
    Undecided
    Shane - oldschoolelf
    Who Cares?
  • Michael, Arrivederci e amore 2007/10/10 23:25:54
    Yes
    Michael, Arrivederci e amore
    And he sleeps with Robin. More proof.
  • <--That guy 2007/07/31 19:55:18
    Yes
    <--That guy
    Hmm, you make a good comparison.
  • spider_... <--That... 2007/07/31 20:04:39
    spider_brad
    I've got a long commute, plenty of time to think up brilliant polls like this.
  • K man 2007/07/26 17:48:42
    Yes
    K man
    If you say so. LOL

    Just keep Robin away from me.
  • B 2007/07/25 22:38:48
    Undecided
    B
    I've come across so many different Batman characters in various comic iterations and movies and tv shows. I can't make up my mind who or what he is really (multiple personalities, hmmm! that would make him schizophrenic, methinks!)

    So, will the real Batman please stand up ... so we can answer this important question once and for all?!!
  • Tabby 2007/07/24 16:58:58
    Undecided
    Tabby
    +1
    Admittedly I don't know as much about Batman. Gotham City has had a larger crime wave as a RESULT of batman? Or... was it just the writers needing more and more peeps for him to save the city from?
  • spider_... Tabby 2007/07/24 19:54:05 (edited)
    spider_brad
    +2
    You don't see the Joker and the Two-Face terrorizing Peoria, Illinois. Of course Batman's escalating the crime rate in Gotham.
  • jackrorabbit 2007/07/24 13:59:10
    No
    jackrorabbit
    +2
    I would be more likely to call him a vigalanty, since he works outside
    of the law on a regular basis. Most of the uber rich are actually
    liberal(hollywood, Bill Gates, Soros), so perhaps Batman sits there.
    He, as Bruce Wayne, is usually on the cutting edge of environmental
    concerns, and gives to charity in a big way and makes sure that
    everyone knows about it by throwing lavish balls.
  • spider_... jackror... 2007/07/24 19:56:51
    spider_brad
    +2
    Ah, but the neo-conservative could also be accused of operating outside the law. How many times have you heard our war in Iraq as "illegal?"

    And Batman often describes Bruce Wayne as his real "mask." The the bleeding heart liberal side of him is just a facade.
  • jackror... spider_... 2007/07/25 13:58:57
    jackrorabbit
    I have heard it called illegal, but since war was declared by the
    congress, it is completely constitutional. Just because something is
    unpopular doesn't make it illegal.
  • jackror... spider_... 2007/07/25 14:00:01
    jackrorabbit
    BTW, it was a very funny poll.
  • Regulus [99 - INSHALLAH] 2007/07/24 12:12:04
    Yes
    Regulus [99 - INSHALLAH]
    +2
    What about Marvel's Punisher?
  • Heisenberg 2007/07/24 05:41:16
    Yes
    Heisenberg
    +1
    Yes...I will take bat man as a neocon...just please tell the liberal super-hero to get some baggy shorts:

  • 26654 Heisenberg 2007/07/24 14:31:01
  • TeaParty Patriot 2007/07/24 05:05:23
    No
    TeaParty Patriot
    +5
    What is a Neo-Conservative? A New Conservative sounds like an oxymoron. I am happy to consider Batman a Conservative if you think he stands for justice and fights crimes unlike the superheroes of the Left like ACLU-person who fights to free murderers from jail on a daily basis and jumps tall buildings in a single lawsuit
  • True~Male 2007/07/24 04:47:02
    Undecided
    True~Male
    +1
    In those tights and cape he can be whatever he wants --whoooo hoooo!!!
  • spider_brad 2007/07/24 03:44:30
    Yes
    spider_brad
    +1
    I'm sure in the Batcave at this very moment, he's writing "The Project for a New American Bat-Century."
  • Heisenberg spider_... 2007/07/24 05:43:41
    Heisenberg
    +1
    I think your homie is making another snowman youtube video for the DNC candidates.

    I guess this is clever to Democrats:

  • Tabby Heisenberg 2007/07/24 16:56:29
    Tabby
    +1
    Doubtful it was meant to be "clever". Humorous? Yup. :)

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