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Ice-T Defends Right to Bear Arms After Colorado Shooting: Is He Right On or Way Off?

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Rapper/actor Ice-T has taken a strong stance on last Friday's horrific "Batman" shooting in Aurora, Colo. Regarding the back-in-the-news debate on gun rights, he told Channel 4 London: "It’s legal in the United States. The right to bear arms is because that’s the last form of defense against tyranny. Not to hunt. It’s to protect yourself from the police."

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"And do you see any link between that and this sort of instance?" the host asked the 54-year-old. "No. Not really," he replied. "If somebody wants to kill people, they don’t need a gun to do it."

"Makes it easier though, doesn’t it?" the host said. "Not really. You can strap explosives on your body. They do that all the time," Ice responded. He added, "the United States is based on guns. Like KRS said, you’ll never have justice on stolen land."

Ice later followed up on his comments on Twitter -- and he didn't back down one bit. "My comment on guns got a lot of press.. They call me ‘Gangster’ don’t forget ‘US Army Vet,'" he wrote. He added, "I love how people are soooo SHOCKED to hear something thought provoking said by a rapper.. Hip Hop has changed to POP .. Nobody says sh–." OK, he has a point there ... do you agree with Ice's stance on guns?
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  • Smokey 2012/07/25 16:21:36
    Right on
    Smokey
    +45
    People don't know this, but Ice-T is a registered Republican, along with these famous African-American performers:

    Black Republicans

    1. Ice-T
    2. Puffy (Sean Combs)
    3. Tiger Woods
    4. Bill Cosby
    5. Serena Williams
    6. Dr. Dre
    7. Venessa Williams
    8. Janet Jackson
    9. Warren Moon
    10. Dr. J (Julius Erving)

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  • Mj PINKYFINGERDOWN 2013/01/13 05:00:07
  • claymation 2012/11/10 09:11:13
    Right on
    claymation
    Whew! In light of what occasionally happens at the state, county and municipal levels of law, where police sometimes lose perspective and control, I am in agreement with Ice-T. but, overall, arming citizens- allowing the carrying of concealed weapons will cause some serious bloodshed. People will lose control of their senses quickly. I've seen it with my own eyes. It's...pitiful...to say the least. Frightening...from a socially objective standpoint.
  • P. Sturm 2012/09/14 23:44:21
    Right on
    P. Sturm
    One citizen with a gun that night could have cut his spree off at one shot.
  • beebizzy books 2012/08/11 15:21:40
    Way off
    beebizzy books
    This guy wants to kill cops, then he plays one on tv ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
  • Bureauc 0webama 2012/08/04 01:13:22
    Right on
    Bureauc 0webama
    Ice-T is in agreement with me, the majority of Americans as well as our Constitution.
  • Quazimoto 2012/08/02 19:42:44
    Right on
    Quazimoto
    Even Ice-T gets it.
  • SW Quazimoto 2012/08/03 14:51:28
    SW
    He's got 99 problems and gun control ain't one.
  • Ramón 2012/08/02 06:35:38
    Right on
    Ramón
    Yeah. Hunt if you want, but protection is number 1. Fight the power!
  • Candycane 2012/08/01 04:23:52
    Right on
    Candycane
    He is right, The right to bear arms is because that’s the last form of defense against tyranny. Not to hunt. It’s to protect yourself from the police."
  • rcardon 2012/07/31 16:25:39
    Right on
    rcardon
    +1
    He's right, you don't need a gun to kill people, but if the government, who has guns, decides they are the ultimate power, the people will need guns to remind the government who has the real power.
  • Dodgerfan 2012/07/31 15:47:02
    Right on
    Dodgerfan
    +1
    History proves a well armed populace is the best protection against tyrannical government. You can bet the pre-WW2 Germans wish they had their guns when Hitler stole the power.
  • Tre 2012/07/30 14:16:10
    Right on
    Tre
    It's not the gun that kills people. It's the crazy ass who has the gun.
  • Claybern 2012/07/29 18:12:24
    Right on
    Claybern
    +3
    My guns are mine for the protection of my family and myself against tyranny and the non law abbiding citizen who wants to do me or my loved ones harm. Guess what, it's my constitutional RIGHT.
  • S. Gompers 2012/07/29 09:53:12
    Right on
    S. Gompers
    +2
    Good for him.
  • Joshua Mathews 2012/07/28 22:59:29
    Right on
    Joshua Mathews
    As far as I can tell, it's true historically that the right to bear arms is supposed to be something that allows US citizens to defend themselves against tyranny. However, I don't think all the gun enthusiasts realize what a joke this is. If your pension has disappeared and you have no money because the government just gave it all away to a bank, how is a gun supposed to help? Most you're going to bother a modern government with a gun is if some politician has to trouble themselves to spin the incident to the public after you're dead. There are better ways to fight tyranny than with physical violence. Take a moment to consider that everything a government needs to run has to be provided by its citizens.

    Mind you, I disagree when he says there's no link between the US gun culture and incidents like this. It's not just about the right to own guns, it's the perception that guns and violence are cool and/or fun and/or actually useful for fixing anything in today's society (especially on a global scale). People might not need a gun to kill people, but the way you justify owning a gun and the way you justify killing people sure do have a lot of similarities.
  • nmgene Joshua ... 2012/07/30 21:28:32
    nmgene
    The places rthat allow you to carry a gun have the lowest crime rates. If that theatre had not had a no gun policy the shooter would have lasted about 2 minutes before a patriot took him out!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Joshua ... nmgene 2012/07/31 12:56:17
    Joshua Mathews
    Didn't he use teargas? A crowd of half-blind people with guns who think they're under attack would simply end up shooting each other.

    Did you read that part about more guns lowering crime rates from Wikipedia? Here's the full paragraph:

    "The economist John Lott, in his book More Guns, Less Crime, states that laws which make it easier for law-abiding citizens to get a permit to carry a gun in public places, cause reductions in crime. Lott's results suggest that allowing law-abiding citizens to carry concealed firearms deters crime because potential criminals do not know who may or may not be carrying a firearm. Lott's data came from the FBI's crime statistics from all 3,054 US counties. Lott's conclusions have been challenged by other researchers. A University of Pennsylvania study, for example, found that people who carry guns are 4.5 times likely to get shot than unarmed people."

    So there's evidence both for and against what you've said there. Seems like while carrying a gun you makes you more able to defend yourself it also makes you more of a target.

    A bit further down there's mention of the "most thorough analysis of the impact of gun control laws" which mostly found no connection between gun control laws and violent crime rates. If you take some time to look up this parti...

    Didn't he use teargas? A crowd of half-blind people with guns who think they're under attack would simply end up shooting each other.

    Did you read that part about more guns lowering crime rates from Wikipedia? Here's the full paragraph:

    "The economist John Lott, in his book More Guns, Less Crime, states that laws which make it easier for law-abiding citizens to get a permit to carry a gun in public places, cause reductions in crime. Lott's results suggest that allowing law-abiding citizens to carry concealed firearms deters crime because potential criminals do not know who may or may not be carrying a firearm. Lott's data came from the FBI's crime statistics from all 3,054 US counties. Lott's conclusions have been challenged by other researchers. A University of Pennsylvania study, for example, found that people who carry guns are 4.5 times likely to get shot than unarmed people."

    So there's evidence both for and against what you've said there. Seems like while carrying a gun you makes you more able to defend yourself it also makes you more of a target.

    A bit further down there's mention of the "most thorough analysis of the impact of gun control laws" which mostly found no connection between gun control laws and violent crime rates. If you take some time to look up this particular study the abstract will tell you that "Of 108 assessments of effects of various gun laws on types of violence, seven showed significant support for the hypothesis of gun-control efficacy; another 11 yielded partial support." This suggests to me that gun control can be effective if it's done right, however it rarely is done correctly.

    Finally, try considering what you're suggesting in a larger context. Maybe in that one situation less people would die but then what would a society be like if it was common for any given movie theater to be filled with people carrying guns? Personally, that doesn't sound like a place where I would want to live. Fortunately, I'm Australian. When was the last time we had a tragedy like this? That would be back in 1996, right before the laws changed to no longer allow the carrying of guns for self-defence.
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  • nmgene Joshua ... 2012/08/07 01:41:24
    nmgene
    wikipedea is a leftie program and have been caught many times twisting the truth and outright lying
  • The Bee Guy 2012/07/28 19:59:42
    Right on
    The Bee Guy
    go search story of four cities
  • MS PRUD 2012/07/28 18:00:50
    Right on
    MS PRUD
    +6
    He is so right in his comments. Guns do not kill people - people kill people. There are more people killed by cars - so I guess we should ban cars? If the guns are taken away the only ones that will have them are the crooks and the civilians will be power less to defend themselves. The government does not need any more of our freedoms. They have taken enough of them away.
  • Debi.smith 2012/07/28 02:44:45
    Right on
    Debi.smith
    +2
    I couldn't have said it better than Ice-T.
  • jaybay3 Debi.smith 2012/07/28 03:51:32 (edited)
  • Debi.smith jaybay3 2012/07/30 20:29:52 (edited)
    Debi.smith
    I do not disagree. I believe this country has NOT been free for a long time. But it has gotten tremendously worse in the last 3 1/2 years. That's why our 2nd amendment rights are so damn important. Unless there is BIG change soon (and Ron Paul may have been the last hope) then that's going to be very obvious very soon.
  • nmgene Debi.smith 2012/08/07 01:42:59
    nmgene
    Ron Paul is a joke, after 26 years in congress he got one bill passed. What were we paying him for?
  • Debi.smith nmgene 2012/08/18 13:59:57
    Debi.smith
    Ron Paul can't do it by himself. A joke? Have you truly listened to what Dr. Paul wants to Do? He simply wants to get this country back to what our founding fathers envisioned it to be.
  • Guru_T_Firefly 2012/07/28 02:10:41
    Right on
    Guru_T_Firefly
    +2
    He's spot on.
  • Raphy 2012/07/28 02:06:42
    Right on
    Raphy
    The guns are not the problem, its some of the people who are allow to get guns are.
  • Don Leuty 2012/07/28 01:42:50
    Right on
    Don Leuty
    +4
    He is no dumb street rapper. He is really has his act together.
  • KaelynnRose 2012/07/28 01:41:09
    Right on
    KaelynnRose
    +4
    I agree. The second amendment is clear.
  • Dolly 2012/07/28 01:32:36
    Right on
    Dolly
  • jaybay3 Dolly 2012/07/28 03:35:46 (edited)
    jaybay3
    +2
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  • Christopher Dresbach 2012/07/27 22:16:53
    Right on
    Christopher Dresbach
    +4
    How can we protect ourselves from home invasions, tyrannical government, terrorists foreign and domestic and others who wish to assault/murder us and our wives and children, etc, including with ILLEGAL weapons if we have our legal right to bear arma removed?
  • jaybay3 Christo... 2012/07/28 03:44:45
  • Christo... jaybay3 2012/07/31 20:58:20
    Christopher Dresbach
    Great response :) History repeats...
  • Sherry Christo... 2012/08/05 12:52:31
    Sherry
    We can't. At least most of the time would not be able to protect ourselves and our loved ones. This Obama, Swillary and Pelosi, and the rest of their socialist party knows.
  • siouxthegal 2012/07/27 15:26:27
    Way off
    siouxthegal
    +2
    When the 2nd amendment was made they did NOT have these kinds of weapons. They need to ban them and also the bullets that this person bought on line.....like 6,000? I think most people are fine with the original 2nd amendment but assault weapons? I think NOT!
    And where should NRA be so powereful anyway? I think we need to start having all elections voted by the people! There are a whole lot of people who belong to that nra but agree the assault weapons should be banned so this shows you just how powerful the "big wigs" are in that group. I have to wonder if something like what happened last week and it was someone they loved who got harmed if they would think a little differently. This "person" wasn't going after one or more specific person, he just didn't care!!
  • jaybay3 siouxth... 2012/07/28 02:36:35 (edited)
    jaybay3
    +3
    http://freedomfighterradio.ne...
    Hey Tyrannical Idiot, the Second Amendment if for people with Brains and guts like Americans who believe in the Constitution and freedom who will use it to defend our Lives, and defend the life of our Family and friends, and when Government Turns tyrannical like you are to Ignorant to notice has been happening, defend ourselves from tyranny within, and overturn the government if we have to !
    Hey Lady that is a Goon that knows not of the plans elite's and high powers have for her, Do you know what Agenda 21 Calls for ? Look up the PDF file, and see also the Georgia Guidestones, Also look at the Tyranny from within our current Tyrant man in office of presidency and Eric holder tried to use with other idiots to try and take away our rights.
    Never back down, Never Give in, Come to Take My GUNS AND YOUR GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THEM FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS !
    Freaking idiot, if people where armed in the Movie theater and it wasn't a gun free movie theater, the killer would have been stopped faster and less lives killed.

    Lady Grow up or Move out of the USA your Almost as bad as Islamic Muslims that Preach KORAN 9:5 and say it's good so Koran 3:28 to Infidels and Kill them when they can!
    Oh Can't forget as a Women you are equal to Cattle because the Koran sai...

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    http://freedomfighterradio.ne...
    Hey Tyrannical Idiot, the Second Amendment if for people with Brains and guts like Americans who believe in the Constitution and freedom who will use it to defend our Lives, and defend the life of our Family and friends, and when Government Turns tyrannical like you are to Ignorant to notice has been happening, defend ourselves from tyranny within, and overturn the government if we have to !
    Hey Lady that is a Goon that knows not of the plans elite's and high powers have for her, Do you know what Agenda 21 Calls for ? Look up the PDF file, and see also the Georgia Guidestones, Also look at the Tyranny from within our current Tyrant man in office of presidency and Eric holder tried to use with other idiots to try and take away our rights.
    Never back down, Never Give in, Come to Take My GUNS AND YOUR GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THEM FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS !
    Freaking idiot, if people where armed in the Movie theater and it wasn't a gun free movie theater, the killer would have been stopped faster and less lives killed.

    Lady Grow up or Move out of the USA your Almost as bad as Islamic Muslims that Preach KORAN 9:5 and say it's good so Koran 3:28 to Infidels and Kill them when they can!
    Oh Can't forget as a Women you are equal to Cattle because the Koran said so
    Koran 4:11
    &
    As a women I can beat you until you do what I want. You are as a Women equal to Animals and property and I can have 4 wife's so I can trade off the ones I don't want.
    Koran 4:34
    Now Arm up you Goon, or just be ready to be Lamb for the Slaughter
    Agenda 21, Georgia Guidestones, Fluoride in public water, Albert Pike Predictions, Freemasonary facts of the Devil the serve the mysteries creature of darkness.
    http://libertyforlife.com/nwo...

    http://freedomfighterradio.net/
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    Get Educated Lady, and step out of the Matrix of Lies you are in and, help yourself and Family !
    Arm Up Godbless and we will win, Evil will Fall for Lucifer and his Islamic Allies will fail !
    Think Vienna September 11th 1683 encase you didn't know why September 11th happened on that day ! & September 12th 1683 !
    http://youtu.be/aL0GieO5Rj8 <- Sobieski at Vienna 1683 / Odsiecz Wiedeńska 1683
    Arm up and get educated you Traitor to America and Freedom of Arms and Right to Bear Arms ! http://AmmunitionToGo.com - http://FreedomFighterRadio.net - http://recordings.talkshoe.co...
    Research and spread the Knowledge and help educated the Youth before it's to late, th Youth are our Future!
    ~ Shalom

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  • jaybay3 jaybay3 2012/07/28 02:39:23
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  • rcardon jaybay3 2012/07/31 16:44:21
    rcardon
    +2
    Dude, take a pill. It's an opinion, and she's welcome to it. To force an opinion on someone, as you have just tried to do, is as much, if not more, tyrannical than anything she's talking about.
    I agree, her opinion is misinformed, but that doesn't mean she's tyrannical or even a supporter of it.
    Oh, wait! You're one of those white supremacists, aren't you? Always afraid the government's out to take away everything you own? I believe psychiatrists have a word for people like you: paranoid-schizophrenic.
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