How do you think the universe was created?
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2012/09/13 04:37:26
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Azazyel's Dragon 2012/09/13 04:38:33
I see it differently sometimes. Anyone remembers in Men in Black at the end when the Universe as we see it is being played as Marbles by a giant alien? What if we are a 'quark' of another unknown Universe as we speak. A never ending Universe within another Universe within an infinity of others. One will never know the answer until billions of years from now and even then who knows as well
No !!!
I rest my case .
Science dates stuff .
How do 'you' KNOW it was millions of years ago?
Proverbs 8:22-31 tell of how things were BEFORE the Earth was even created , up thru when there was finally an Earth , and even including how we were doing (before in flesh) & before Satan got a 3rd of us to join him in the rebellion for the Throne .
Jeremiah chapter 4 explains the conditions of our planet when G_D stomped it (& it was = became , void in Gen.1:2) , in stopping that rebellion .
Continental plate movement ; the poles froze for the 1st time (Isaiah 45:18 tells us how it was before the poles froze) ; magnetic north & true north knocked off by 30 degrees ,... all with His hands in devine fury .
Down load the free google earth 6.0 and look at the atlantic ocean floor from 3,000 miles out , and you can still see where africa & america were once attached - every single bump of africa's coast , all the way up to portugal are on the ocean floor = start looking just west of the Azores , on down to the ivory coast of africa - all there ...
Gen.1:1 doesn't say how long ago , just ends with a period ;
then the rebellion took place & G_D stomped that 1st Earth age , when the dinosaurs (Job40:15-24) roamed .
So that tells us that Earth is very old (not in t...
Proverbs 8:22-31 tell of how things were BEFORE the Earth was even created , up thru when there was finally an Earth , and even including how we were doing (before in flesh) & before Satan got a 3rd of us to join him in the rebellion for the Throne .
Jeremiah chapter 4 explains the conditions of our planet when G_D stomped it (& it was = became , void in Gen.1:2) , in stopping that rebellion .
Continental plate movement ; the poles froze for the 1st time (Isaiah 45:18 tells us how it was before the poles froze) ; magnetic north & true north knocked off by 30 degrees ,... all with His hands in devine fury .
Down load the free google earth 6.0 and look at the atlantic ocean floor from 3,000 miles out , and you can still see where africa & america were once attached - every single bump of africa's coast , all the way up to portugal are on the ocean floor = start looking just west of the Azores , on down to the ivory coast of africa - all there ...
Gen.1:1 doesn't say how long ago , just ends with a period ;
then the rebellion took place & G_D stomped that 1st Earth age , when the dinosaurs (Job40:15-24) roamed .
So that tells us that Earth is very old (not in the thousands of years ) , so what is the next time increment that scientists agree upon ?
Millions of years is the answer = the fossil record .
Those verses are nothing more than explanations for different points in scripture. They don't tell you how old the earth is.
I don't doubt that Africa and America are still attached, [Due to the great flood (in Genesis 7)] But you haven't given a straight answer yet.
That chapter in Job only describes that a dinosaur lived in his timeline (Dinosaurs are still existent today FYI.) That doesn't describe the age of the earth.
Many people say the earth is billions/millions.. (Etc.) years old because of a fossil that they presume to be extinct. Consider the Coelacanth. Can you explain THAT theory to me?
In case your not familiar; the coelacanth was once only known from the fossil record. Paleontologists confidently pronounced that it went extinct some 350-65 million years ago, since no trace of it was found in more “recent” fossil layers. Imagine their surprise when, in 1938, a living coelacanth was found off the coast of Madagascar! National Geographic News article notes that “other coelacanths have been caught in recent decades.”
Now here’s my point. No fossils of coelacanths have ever been found in the same layers as human fossils, but they have been found in the same layers as dinosaur fossils - yet we kn...
Those verses are nothing more than explanations for different points in scripture. They don't tell you how old the earth is.
I don't doubt that Africa and America are still attached, [Due to the great flood (in Genesis 7)] But you haven't given a straight answer yet.
That chapter in Job only describes that a dinosaur lived in his timeline (Dinosaurs are still existent today FYI.) That doesn't describe the age of the earth.
Many people say the earth is billions/millions.. (Etc.) years old because of a fossil that they presume to be extinct. Consider the Coelacanth. Can you explain THAT theory to me?
In case your not familiar; the coelacanth was once only known from the fossil record. Paleontologists confidently pronounced that it went extinct some 350-65 million years ago, since no trace of it was found in more “recent” fossil layers. Imagine their surprise when, in 1938, a living coelacanth was found off the coast of Madagascar! National Geographic News article notes that “other coelacanths have been caught in recent decades.”
Now here’s my point. No fossils of coelacanths have ever been found in the same layers as human fossils, but they have been found in the same layers as dinosaur fossils - yet we know coelacanths and humans do live together, because they do so in the present world (as proved in the recent sigtings and catches)
In other words, just because we don’t find fossils of certain creatures (or plants) together with humans in the fossil record, it doesn’t mean they didn’t live together, and it does not determine how old they (or the earth for that matter) were!
Dinosaurs do not explain the epoch of the earth. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Africa is not still attached ;
Noah's flood didn't destroy the Earth (that's NOT when the dinosaurs died) ,... it was a little rain shower in comparison to the Katabola (what the word "foundation" ) w/o the S on the end , means in Eph.1:4 in Greek (it tells ya that there were no man in flesh yet - no boat , Jer.4:22-27 and the same type of city "Jerusalem" that we will live in - 3rd Earth age , is the type during the 1st Earth age - if dinosaurs could of seen us , they would of eaten us - spirit bodies are invisible in this dimension - the Mellinial Temple won't be made of brick either .) ;
Job (1700's B.C.) was NOT living while the dinosaurs roamed - keep in mind ,... Scripture is G_D speaking to these individuals , about the past thru the future after them ;
All about fossils , IS what I said = millions of yrs.;
Man in flesh , doesn't go back further than the 6th day , which is 3,000 years after G_D stomped everything .
So everything was roaming or what ever for millions of years , then a sudden stomping (already explained why) ,... and instantly He start up of how things are now (with everything either a fossil or new since 9,000 yrs. ago )
Scripture lists the 3rd and final Earth / Heaven "age" as well , where only the redeemed will live forever "back to only being in" the same spirit body they've had since the 1st Earth / Heaven age .
(Why do you spell God "G_D"?)
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Ecclesiastes 5:3 For the dream comes through the greatness of the task; and the voice of the fool is known by the many words.
Ecclesiastes 10:14 Yet the stupid one makes many words; a man knows not what they shall be; and what shall be after him, who can tell him?
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You don't know (and are unable to prove) that the earth is as 'old' as you claim! There are fact that prove this theory wrong in many cases, and you state this foolish claim under 'what' proof?
If you say you are led by the Spirit as am I, then you should know these verses and take them literally (Along with the rest of Scripture for that matter) and be more vigilant as to what you speak of. People have been proven wrong in many things no matter how convincing they may be.
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2 Timothy 2:23 But refuse the foolish and uninstructed questionings, knowing that they generate quarrels.
Titus 3:9 But keep back from foolish questionings and genealogies and arguments and quarrels of law, for they are unprofitable and vain.
1 Peter 2:15 Because so is the will of God, doing good to silence the ignorance of foolish men.
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Let's get on with life and not waste anymore of each others time, shall we?
Your NOT utilizing a real Bible is the issue , or you would of seen what those verses stated .
As soon as the Words are changed , it kills the life in the Word .
Ecclesiastes 5:3 (worded correctly)
For a dream cometh through the multitude of business ; and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words .
There are 2 different spirits .
And to answer your question :
The people of G_D , SO revere Him as the most Holy "Hallowed be Thy name" / above everything in the universe ,... that they don't even completely spell the tetragrammaton (as to place limits on Him) .
You’re most likely using a KJV. I use the NKJV. The only discrepancy is that mine is translated into modern day English and without the thees, thous, and so on. It’s a Bible that tells you (what we think is) the most exact of what the original manuscripts held. The NIV on the other hand and others like it, are just getting watered down (Not that their ‘bad’ in any way) but if you want a somewhat accurate reading, then you should read the most precise.
(Your version didn’t ‘revolutionize’ the implication of this verse apart from for the syntax fashion.)
So are you a Jew? Or just consider yourself to be one of God’s people?
I have a 22 page report of all the words removed or changed (not to make understanding easier , since you then can NOT define the words ) , back to their meaning in the year that the inspired writer , wrote it down - you never want today's meaning !!!
Do you still acquire this 22 p. document?
The 22 pages , covers the popular 6 or 7 immitation versions of The Bible in circulation .
Although the Greek is the benchmark for studing the N.T. , there are times when thoughs that have dove deep for a while , must resort too the Aramiac , because it went from Aramaic to Greek to English - or Hebrew to English which means less chances of a misunderstanding because of (NOT Scribe ) but copyist error .
I don't see why it has to be one or the other.
Couldn't God have wanted The Big Bang to happen?
Please no hate, it's just my opinion.