FYI, I am Muslim....
I have no problem whatsoever with saying Merry Christmas! If you wanna wish me a Merry Christmas, I'll wish you one right back. Screw political correctness. This is America... Christians are the majority. You should be allowed to say something as simple as Merry Christmas.
I'm not saying that it's alright to be rude, but you should be allowed to say what you think.
And has for that...man who committed those murders...he's no Muslim. He'll burn in hell for what he did. Say whatever you will about him. It's only right. He doesn't deserve to be treated with manners...and political corrections.
But don't you ever say that ALL Muslims are terrorists. We're not. I'm not. I want to go into the Navy when I turn 18. Yea, I know...how odd! Religion is very important to me. But so is this country. And hell, I'll die protecting it.
Yea, that's my two cents.
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Has "political correctness" gone too far? Should we be able to say, "Merry Christmas," "terrorist" and "Muslim madman?
Kelly Kickinassis in Reno November 28, 2009 00:02:48
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In the article below, a soldier in Afghanistan and a blogger named Daisy duke it out about political correctness. From simple expressions of "Happy Thanksgiving" and "Merry Christmas," to descriptions of jihadists as "terrorists" and the Ft. Hood shooter as a "Muslim madman," Americans are struggling with how to express themselves in the "right" way. Has political correctness gone too far? Read the article below for a rare insight into the thoughts of 2 Americans on different sides of the world, and then weigh in with your opinion this week, as we celebrate Thanksgiving and the oncoming Christmas/Hanukkah/Kwanzaa/ad naseum holidays.
Read more: http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-28761-Reno-Cons...
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I wish people would hurry up and MELT already... we're all Americans now, so we should embrace American traditions, history, language and culture, period. Jihadists are terrorists and should be called the murdering Muslims they are.
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I have no problem with folks who want to say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas," but when an Army major murders 13 American soldiers in the name of Alah, he should be called a traitor and a jihadist terrorist Muslim madman, period.
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i don't think it's political correctness - it's manners. and anyone who has to be pushy about whatever holiday, they need to learn manners.
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I am proud of America's heritage, its history and its traditions. Because our country was founded on judeo-Christian values, I believe we need to continue to honor our nation's holidays first and foremost, with no mention of lesser holidays.
I wish people would hurry up and MELT already... we're all Americans now, so we should embrace American traditions, history, language and culture, period. Jihadists are terrorists and should be called the murdering Muslims they are.
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Seeing as PC is a belief system in itself it should not be forced upon people, as no belief should be. It is a choice. It is also a type of reform.
I wish people would hurry up and MELT already... we're all Americans now, so we should embrace American traditions, history, language and culture, period. Jihadists are terrorists and should be called the murdering Muslims they are.
When we say "Happy Thanksgiving" or "Merry Christmas," it is simply an expression of our beliefs and shouldn't offend anyone.
Who am I to tell someone what to think? (I have but ... never mind)
As long as they don't hurt someone one, I could care less how I'm greeted.
(I do prefer Merry Christmas but that's just me)
When we say "Happy Thanksgiving" or "Merry Christmas," it is simply an expression of our beliefs and shouldn't offend anyone.
Therefore I will still say Merry Christmas anyway...
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I'm a deist, so I don't really have a holiday to celebrate, so I'll reply with "Happy Holidays!" or something of the sort, because that is just what I want to do.
Let people do what they want. Don't get all butt hurt just because someone has different beliefs. That's just life, get over yourself. (No one specific, just people who act as if they are the Alpha-Religion.)
I have no problem with folks who want to say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas," but when an Army major murders 13 American soldiers in the name of Alah, he should be called a traitor and a jihadist terrorist Muslim madman, period.
I have no problem with folks who want to say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas," but when an Army major murders 13 American soldiers in the name of Alah, he should be called a traitor and a jihadist terrorist Muslim madman, period.
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When we say "Happy Thanksgiving" or "Merry Christmas," it is simply an expression of our beliefs and shouldn't offend anyone.
Odumma says we have to bow down to our enemies and play nice.He hasn't got enough sense to know that they're laughing at us and percieve us to be weak.That's why they're glad he was elected.
I am proud of America's heritage, its history and its traditions. Because our country was founded on judeo-Christian values, I believe we need to continue to honor our nation's holidays first and foremost, with no mention of lesser holidays.
i for one will fight & die for my heritage no matter what holywood says is supposed to be the new pc new world order norm. jane fonda, michael moore, susan sarandon, sean penn or any other marxist america haters don't pay my bills or raise my kids.
I wish people would hurry up and MELT already... we're all Americans now, so we should embrace American traditions, history, language and culture, period. Jihadists are terrorists and should be called the murdering Muslims they are.
I wish people would hurry up and MELT already... we're all Americans now, so we should embrace American traditions, history, language and culture, period. Jihadists are terrorists and should be called the murdering Muslims they are.
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They try to tell us it's politically incorrect to say Merry Christmas because it's insensitive to other groups or faiths... then they promote those groups and faiths beliefs while condemning Christians for theirs. What's worse is that many people in these groups and faiths didn't ask anyone to do this and most see nothing wrong with anyone celebrating their faith or beliefs as long as they are free to do the same. And the people doing this? Generally these are white bleeding hearts too ignorant to understand that they are being manipulated by people taking advantage of their desire to do whats right but having no real idea how to do it.
These people do the same when it comes to matters of racism, sexism or any other agenda they pursue. Divide and reassemble. Reform fo...
They try to tell us it's politically incorrect to say Merry Christmas because it's insensitive to other groups or faiths... then they promote those groups and faiths beliefs while condemning Christians for theirs. What's worse is that many people in these groups and faiths didn't ask anyone to do this and most see nothing wrong with anyone celebrating their faith or beliefs as long as they are free to do the same. And the people doing this? Generally these are white bleeding hearts too ignorant to understand that they are being manipulated by people taking advantage of their desire to do whats right but having no real idea how to do it.
These people do the same when it comes to matters of racism, sexism or any other agenda they pursue. Divide and reassemble. Reform for the sake of reform even if there's no need or it might do more bad than good. Have so many divisions among your own support base that it becomes a juggling game to represent the issues of white women against the issues of black men, Christians against Jews or Muslims. In the end, it always leads to failure because it's impossible to manage such divisions against one another without them falling against one another or those you represent simply giving up.
Then there are the sacrifices. Most Democrats are Christians yet you would never know this by their beliefs, by what they say and how they act. They once represented the issues of Jews until it became more benefisial to abandon them turning against Israel and issue like the holocaust and instead representing the cause of Muslims who in their beliefs are far more extreme to the right on almost every issue than even the Republicans in this country... sheer and utter madness. And how is it that Christians, Jews and Muslims are all on the right now? These faiths are so opposed to one another on most issues that they cannot all be on the right... unless those on the left are identifying themselves as godless with no religion at all. For those who don't believe in God or have faith, this would be understandable... but most Democrats do believe in God and have faith in religion which makes this absolute madness that they could embrace such thinking. Even the abortion doctor Tilly was a regular church goer and believed in God even if many would question that based on his profession.
What this is all about centers on the counter culture generation which rejected everything their parents generation stood for. While on the surface this was a rejection of all the bad things their parents generation were responsible for, under the surface, it was about radicals and extremists no different than the French Revolution where extreme thinkers took power more for themselves and their own self serving agenda to recreate society in their own image... ultimately, the counter revolution that brought an end to the Reign of Terror resulted in the deaths of these reformists as for all their ideologist ideas, they made poor leaders doing more damage than good bringing about an age of empires and restoration of the monarchy.
It's not that the people on the left are wrong... it's that their leaders are no different than those on the right or in the center. Their leaders are self serving career politicians who use our social problems to divide us further just as all political leaders do. But when they go to extremes such as condemning people for saying "Merry Christmas", even most Muslims, Jews and people of other faiths saying they have gone too far.
But in the end, the greatest divisions will happen among the Democrats themselves when Christian Democrats finally have to ask themselves if they are Atheists or Christians... because the anti Christian sentiment among Democrats as presented by the media and various groups claiming to represent them will leave them no choice. Being Christian does not mean you cannot respect other faiths... but it does mean that you must offer the same respect to your fellow Christians which you rarely see now in these forums or expressed in society in general.
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO EVERYONE REGARDLESS OF RACE, GENDER, COLOR OR CREED... and to those of you who can't accept that, just leave the rest of us alone and go Scrooge yourself.
We should be sensitive to people who believe differently than we do and restrict our speech whenever possible so as not to offend others.
I am proud of America's heritage, its history and its traditions. Because our country was founded on judeo-Christian values, I believe we need to continue to honor our nation's holidays first and foremost, with no mention of lesser holidays.
None of the above
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When we say "Happy Thanksgiving" or "Merry Christmas," it is simply an expression of our beliefs and shouldn't offend anyone.
When we say "Happy Thanksgiving" or "Merry Christmas," it is simply an expression of our beliefs and shouldn't offend anyone.
I wish people would hurry up and MELT already... we're all Americans now, so we should embrace American traditions, history, language and culture, period. Jihadists are terrorists and should be called the murdering Muslims they are.
I wish people would hurry up and MELT already... we're all Americans now, so we should embrace American traditions, history, language and culture, period. Jihadists are terrorists and should be called the murdering Muslims they are.
I wish people would hurry up and MELT already... we're all Americans now, so we should embrace American traditions, history, language and culture, period. Jihadists are terrorists and should be called the murdering Muslims they are.
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Humans cant take God out of anything.God isnt found in a book,but in the hearts of those who let him in.God is not politics even if some individuals once upon a time who happened to have political power helped by the military decided he ought to be although they were certainly not divinely guided.God hasnt left any country and its discrediting Christian faith to suggest Christian Faith and God is something you can create or sustain or manifest by academic and constitutional tactics.God is faith and either way,not something you can delete,suppress or produce through paragraphs and amendments.The government can therefore neither support nor suppress religion even if it thinks it can..
When the Spanish Christians invaded South America and started to commit genocide,murdering and torturing those who would not convert to Christianity and finally occupied this Southern part of the Americas Continent,was there therefore more God In South America..or even less afterwards?.Is South America founded on Christian belief therefore and Christianity should be"front and center of the Country"?.And so what about North America?.
The other one per cent of the two is this;The diverse cultures and...
Humans cant take God out of anything.God isnt found in a book,but in the hearts of those who let him in.God is not politics even if some individuals once upon a time who happened to have political power helped by the military decided he ought to be although they were certainly not divinely guided.God hasnt left any country and its discrediting Christian faith to suggest Christian Faith and God is something you can create or sustain or manifest by academic and constitutional tactics.God is faith and either way,not something you can delete,suppress or produce through paragraphs and amendments.The government can therefore neither support nor suppress religion even if it thinks it can..
When the Spanish Christians invaded South America and started to commit genocide,murdering and torturing those who would not convert to Christianity and finally occupied this Southern part of the Americas Continent,was there therefore more God In South America..or even less afterwards?.Is South America founded on Christian belief therefore and Christianity should be"front and center of the Country"?.And so what about North America?.
The other one per cent of the two is this;The diverse cultures and emmigrants of diverse nations and religions which left the old and settled in the New World were indeed Americans,whatever the British and French Governments thought about that and also before and regardless of when Ben Franklin,George Washington,Jefferson etc etc or whoever,decided that it was so!.Thats of course leaving out the issue of the nations that were living in America before America was invaded by Europeans.
Therefore NO RELIGION in America as long as its peaceful and does not break in part or whole,the or any laws,should be restricted,suppressed or threatened by legislation.American People are free to choose what they want to believe and should not have one or the other forced upon them nor be subjected by passive or aggressive constitutional persuasion.
By the way whether Major Nidal Malik Hasan shouted"Allah Akbar"(god is great)as a prayer because he was fearing for of his life (or as a religious cry of defense)or to strike fear into others we will never know.This phrase is used by Muslims in many different situations and this year was often to be heard shouted by Muslim Children and their mothers when the IDF attacked Gaza..for example.
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but they contrdict themselves every day
they say we have the freedon of speech but they beep out certain curse words
some times i don't feel to free
but i'm glad we are free because alot of people aren't
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I am proud of America's heritage, its history and its traditions. Because our country was founded on judeo-Christian values, I believe we need to continue to honor our nation's holidays first and foremost, with no mention of lesser holidays.
None of the above
But for the love of all that's holy (or not) don't expect everyone to bow down to whatever particular superstition you follow (or don't) and don't expect commercial enterprises whose ONLY goal is to make a buck off your need to do the culturally appropriate thing and buy stuff, to limit their own opportunities to successfully complete the money-hustle in order to satisfy your particular theology.
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Early usages
In the USA
The earliest citation is not politically correct, found in the U.S. Supreme Court decision Chisholm v. Georgia (1793), denoting that the statement under judgment is literally incorrect, as understood in the eighteenth-century US: “The states, rather than the People, for whose sakes the States exist, are frequently the objects which attract and arrest our principal attention. . . . Sentiments and expressions of this inaccurate kind prevail in our common, even in our convivial, language. Is a toast asked? [To] ‘The United States’, instead of [to] the ‘People of the United States’, is the toast given. This is not politically correct.” [4]
In the UK
During the First World War, British Ministry of Information official Arnold Bennett used the expression politically correct in vetting language for “appropriateness”.[5]
In Marxism–Leninism
In Marxist–Leninist and Trotskyist vocabulary, correct was the common term denoting the “appropriate party line” and the ideologic/ “correct line”.[6] Likewise in the People's Republic of China, as part of Mao’s declarations on the correct handling of “non-antagonistic contradictions”.[1][7][8][9] MIT professor of literature Ruth Perry traces the term from Mao...
Early usages
In the USA
The earliest citation is not politically correct, found in the U.S. Supreme Court decision Chisholm v. Georgia (1793), denoting that the statement under judgment is literally incorrect, as understood in the eighteenth-century US: “The states, rather than the People, for whose sakes the States exist, are frequently the objects which attract and arrest our principal attention. . . . Sentiments and expressions of this inaccurate kind prevail in our common, even in our convivial, language. Is a toast asked? [To] ‘The United States’, instead of [to] the ‘People of the United States’, is the toast given. This is not politically correct.” [4]
In the UK
During the First World War, British Ministry of Information official Arnold Bennett used the expression politically correct in vetting language for “appropriateness”.[5]
In Marxism–Leninism
In Marxist–Leninist and Trotskyist vocabulary, correct was the common term denoting the “appropriate party line” and the ideologic/ “correct line”.[6] Likewise in the People's Republic of China, as part of Mao’s declarations on the correct handling of “non-antagonistic contradictions”.[1][7][8][9] MIT professor of literature Ruth Perry traces the term from Mao Zedong’s Little Red Book (1964).
In left-wing rhetoric
Even before the term PC appeared, the Left mocked its own language usage in the pamphlet Lifeitselfmanship or How to Become a Precisely-Because Man (1956), by Jessica Mitford, about “L and non-L” (Left and non-Left) English, mocking the Communist clichés used by her comrades when talking about fighting the class struggle. The pamphlet’s title refers to the Stephen Potter book series including the title Lifemanship, and replies to Noblesse Oblige, by Nancy Mitford, about the perceptible class distinctions in British English usage, that popularised the phrases “U and non-U English” (Upper class and non-Upper class).[10][11]
In the 1960s, the radical Left adopted the term, initially seriously, then ironically, in self-criticism of dogmatic attitudes. By 1970, New Left proponents had adopted the term political correctness.[1] In the essay The Black Woman, Toni Cade Bambara says: “. . . a man cannot be politically correct and a [male] chauvinist too” — a usage that widened the definition’s scope to include the politics of gender and identity to the politics of ideological orthodoxy in governing. The New Left later re-appropriated the term political correctness as satirical self-criticism; per Debra Shultz: “Throughout the 1970s and 1980s, the New Left, feminists, and progressives . . . used their term politically correct ironically, as a guard against their own orthodoxy in social change efforts”.[1][2][12] Hence, it is a popular English usage in the underground comic book Merton of the Movement, by Bobby London, while ideologically sound an alternative term, followed a like lexical path, appearing in Bart Dickon’s satirical comic strips.[1][13] Moreover, Ellen Willis says: “ . . . in the early ’80s, when feminists used the term political correctness, it was used to refer sarcastically to the anti-pornography movement’s efforts to define a ‘feminist sexuality’ ”.[14]
Current usage
Widespread use of the term "politically correct" and its derivatives began when it was adopted as a pejorative term by the political right in the 1990s, in the context of the Culture Wars. Writing in the New York Times in 1990,[15] Richard Bernstein noted "The term "politically correct," with its suggestion of Stalinist orthodoxy, is spoken more with irony and disapproval than with reverence. But across the country the term p.c., as it is commonly abbreviated, is being heard more and more in debates over what should be taught at the universities." Bernstein referred to a meeting of the Western Humanities Conference in Berkeley, California, on " 'Political Correctness' and Cultural Studies," which examined "what effect the pressure to conform to currently fashionable ideas is having on scholarship". Bernstein also referred to "p.c.p" for "politically correct people", a term which did not take root in popular discussion.
Within a few years, this previously obscure term featured regularly in the lexicon of the conservative social and political challenges against curriculum expansion and progressive teaching methods in US high schools and universities.[16] In 1991, addressing a graduating class of the University of Michigan, U.S. President George H. W. Bush spoke against “ . . . a movement [that would] declare certain topics ‘off-limits’, certain expressions ‘off-limits’, even certain gestures ‘off-limits’ ” in allusion to liberal Political Correctness.[17] The most common usage here is as a pejorative term to refer to excessive deference to particular sensibilities at the expense of other considerations. The converse term "politically incorrect" came into use as an implicit term of self-praise, indicating that the user was not afraid to give offense.
The central uses of the term relate to issues of race and gender, and encompass both the language in which issues are discussed and the viewpoints that are expressed. Proponents of the view that black people are less intelligent, on average, than white people, or that women are less intelligent than men, state that criticism of these views is based on political correctness.[18]
Examples of language commonly criticised as "politically correct" include: [19]
"African-American" in place of "Black", "Negro" and other terms
"Native American" in place of "Indian"
“Gender-neutral” terms such as "firefighter" in place of "fireman"
Terms relating to disability, such as "visually challenged" in place of "blind"
More generally, any policy or factual claim opposed by the political right, such as the claim that global warming is a serious problem requiring a policy response may be criticized as "politically correct".[19]
I have no problem with folks who want to say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas," but when an Army major murders 13 American soldiers in the name of Alah, he should be called a traitor and a jihadist terrorist Muslim madman, period.
"a bunch of nuts looking for a cause." Our cause as a nation is to be "a nation under God." We also must get rid of Obama, Pelosi, and the bleeding hearts or we will lose everything we have ........