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Gym Denies Gabby Douglas' Racism Claims: Who Do You Believe?

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Newly minted Olympic gold medalist -- and America's resident sweetheart -- Gabby Douglas shocked her fans when she told Oprah that she was bullied with racist jokes at Excalibur Gymnastics in Virginia Beach, Va.

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"I was just, you know, kind of getting racist jokes, kind of being isolated from the group. So it was definitely hard. I would come home at night and just cry my eyes out," the 16-year-old gymnast told Oprah on "Oprah’s Next Chapter."

"One of my teammates was like, 'Could you scrape the bar?' And they were like, 'Why doesn’t Gabby do it, she’s our slave?' I was the only African-American at that gym. I definitely felt isolated. Why am I deserving this? Is it because I’m black? -- those thoughts were going through my mind."

But Randy Stageburg, a former Senior International Elite and National Team member who trained at Excalibur, called Gabby's claims "ridiculous," according to gymnewstics.com. "This is absolutely ridiculous. I trained at Excalibur gymnastics for 8 years and I personally trained with gabby for 2 of those years. The accusations that are being made against the gymnasts and coaches are just sickening." Gustavo Moure, President and CEO of Excalibur, added, "Gabby’s remarks were hurtful and without merit." Who do you believe: Gabby... or the gym?
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  • joshBigBoss 2012/09/21 02:43:58
    Gabby Douglas
    joshBigBoss
    Touchy subject here. On the one hand I see no reason to believe Gabby is lying, but on the other ignorant kids are probably the ones who made these statements in jest so what do you do?
    Racism is not exclusive to one group. Whites, Blacks, Chinese, Mexicans... Whichever group you want to think of even Jews all have their racist moments, or even eras. The real question is whether or not it was said in jest and if so some people need to learn to have a thicker skin, while others need to learn a little sensitivity.
    Black people were murdered, raped and enslaved for hundreds of years in this country, so a little sensitivity to that may not be asking too much.
  • Nomad Telepath A.M.O.R.C 2012/09/07 20:01:06
  • Jason A... Nomad T... 2012/09/08 13:24:09
    Jason Armentrout
    I am white, and my entire first 7 years of school from Kindergarten to 6th grade, I was only one of two white kids in a class of almost 35 kids!!! We got picked on and many racist remarks were made my entire young life!! Then in Jr High and high school where it was more 50/50, blacks, again, were the racist ones. So save the whole blacks are victims in the race issue. Whites are more victims of it this day and age. Blacks even have laws requiring them to be hired whether they are qualified or not!
  • Nomad T... Jason A... 2012/09/08 15:25:28
    Nomad Telepath A.M.O.R.C
    I can't argue with that. I have witness it but I did defend the kids when I could. One was my best friend Buster Foster. So I understand.
  • Nomad T... Jason A... 2012/09/08 15:45:53
    Nomad Telepath A.M.O.R.C
    Now as far as getting a job when your not qualified is a myth. Also I have trained many white managers who haven't had a clue how to perform the job. Were excellent at delegating work. So I witness the good old boy network in action.
  • Jason A... Nomad T... 2012/09/09 03:23:44
    Jason Armentrout
    You think the "good old boy" network doesn't exist when companies are required to have blacks or asians or Latinos as managers or hiring managers?? Take a look around..minorities hire their own. Whites now have embraced hiring people on their merits. When are minorities going to do the same?? I don't think ever.
  • Nomad T... Jason A... 2012/09/09 04:54:48 (edited)
  • Rightsforall 2012/09/07 15:36:42
    Gabby Douglas
    Rightsforall
    Yeah (but there's a but as well) because even in this day and age so called friends and people who hang around you say mindless things about your colour... or blacks... for example my friend who is white had on a hoodie and put the hood up and our so called mutual ???friend said in disgust don't put your hood up they a black, they them blacks out there... another person i know who is white is married to an Indian guy, says when she is on the phone when she says her new last name now an Indian name she notices a completely different response than when she says her English name and not a good response. Or people just say darkie comments and stuff. I just think though that instead of Gabby mentioning it world wide she should have taken it up with her coaches and support staff around her and nipped it in the bud. And guys yes there are still people out there who are racist but if it is not race it would be something else we just have to manage it effectively nip it in the bud and not winge about it.
  • jacktown kid 2012/09/07 14:48:24
    The Gym
    jacktown kid
    the Gym is better
  • Jason Armentrout 2012/09/06 22:47:31
    The Gym
    Jason Armentrout
    Blacks have a history of calling everything they don't like towards them as racially motivated. The race card is old, please give it a rest. Sick of it.
  • Rightsf... Jason A... 2012/09/07 15:38:21
    Rightsforall
    yeah but there are still some racist people out there its just the law of averages really..... but the race card is tiring......
  • Nomad T... Jason A... 2012/09/07 20:31:06
    Nomad Telepath A.M.O.R.C
    I feel the same way about the white people. Everyone is a socialist even Jesus.
  • Herbtheman 2012/09/06 00:10:35
    The Gym
    Herbtheman
    she just wants attention.
  • P. Sturm 2012/09/05 21:36:10
    Gabby Douglas
    P. Sturm
    I've seen more institutionalized, mindless racism in my life than most people want to believe.
  • Nzinga 2012/09/04 11:46:56
    Gabby Douglas
    Nzinga
    I tend to believe the athlete herself with her own words. white ppl will lie until the day they die. They start racism and then state it doesn't exist. Was the coach there when she was receiving this horrible treatment from these savages? I don't think so. AND why would she lie. She already has the medal. You go girl!!!! I believe Gabby's own words.
  • EDWARD G 2012/09/04 02:14:36
    The Gym
    EDWARD G
    +1
    More my life and hard times, sorry, not buying it.
  • rk 2012/09/04 00:44:46
    The Gym
    rk
    +2
    I have seen too many minorities lie about being treated improperly, and make up stories to cause a stir. Cannot believe nor disbelieve.
  • Kitty 2012/09/03 20:45:02
    The Gym
    Kitty
    +3
    I definitely believe the Gym. I'm tired of the racist song and dance at every turn. Think about it........at least over 80% of athletes are black. Black would be the Gym's bread & butter. If making racist remarks were true they'd have been out of business long ago. The claim brings in pity and publicity.......so yes, she does have reason to make the claim if it isn't true.
  • Jason A... Kitty 2012/09/09 03:26:23
    Jason Armentrout
    80% is actually not a real number. Maybe that is the number in basketball but that is about it. In pro football, blacks make up only 65% of the rosters of NFL teams, which is actually quite a bit. Hey I think im going to cry racism!!! We have a country that is 70% white, how does this happen?? You ever notice no one stands up for white people being disproportionately effected???
  • Kitty Jason A... 2012/09/09 07:45:06
    Kitty
    +1
    Oh yes Jason, I most certainly do notice that!!!!!!! Here's just one example...... When Clinton was president, some big rich black woman got up on stage with Clinton and stated that she was donating millions to a scholarship fund for black students. There stood Clinton clapping for her along with the audience. If a white person got up there and donated millions to a scholarship fund for exclusively white students there would have been a civil riot started!!! Why is what's good for the goose not good for the gander as well???? This is a good example of how crying racism works in regards to the gym incident. If a caucasian tried to cry the same thing everyone would just laugh so don't even bother trying. lol
  • wamcalif 2012/09/03 18:54:45
    Gabby Douglas
    wamcalif
    Of course the gym will deny it.

    "No man is a devil in his own mind"

    -James Baldwin
  • Grace 2012/09/03 17:30:02
    Gabby Douglas
    Grace
    I believe her.
  • caius madison 2012/08/31 20:28:22
    Gabby Douglas
    caius madison
    +1
    I do not know what to believe here. I doubt she would lie, but members of a gym do not represent the gym, and if this is what really happened those members should be thrown out on their backwoods, ignorant asses.
  • westernslope~PWCM~JLA 2012/08/31 10:43:38
    Gabby Douglas
    westernslope~PWCM~JLA
    Teenagers being stupid, competitive teenagers. I think this most likely occurred
  • ivegotloveinmypants 2012/08/31 09:50:20
    Gabby Douglas
    ivegotloveinmypants
    +2
    Gabby is too good for these people. Can she scrape the bar? yes. And she can do more than that: win an Olympic medal, because she OWNS the bar.
  • BenjaminArrowood 2012/08/31 00:15:48
    Gabby Douglas
    BenjaminArrowood
    +1
    I believe Gabby. This is strictly a PR move and not the truth, If they came out and said, "Yeah there was bullying and racism going on and we are a bunch of bigots.", the gym would close due to a lack of attendance because people wouldn't go to that gym. Why don't they let a major network TV news crew come and interview some people, including some of the kids, one on one, if they are telling the truth.
  • Jalysa Ellis 2012/08/30 23:16:26
    Gabby Douglas
    Jalysa Ellis
    I'm kind of leaning towards Gabby's side. Sure she could be making it up- but why lie? And then the gym could lie, but then at the same time, they might not be. With racism debates like this, you never know who's telling the truth without physical proof.
  • Deliciously Melicious 2012/08/30 21:50:37
    Gabby Douglas
    Deliciously Melicious
    +3
    Of course I would believe Gabby Douglas.

    What reason does she have to lie? None.

    What reason does the gym have to lie? Many reasons.
  • SICARIO 2012/08/30 20:05:20
    Gabby Douglas
    SICARIO
  • Nzinga SICARIO 2012/09/04 11:49:14
    Nzinga
    Love it!!!!
  • Giantfan 2012/08/30 18:59:28
    Gabby Douglas
    Giantfan
    +5
    Why would she make these things up? She is famous, a gold metalist and popular. It would be down right stupid for her to say these things if it wasn't true. Let's face it. The world is full of bigots who like no one but their own race. Six million Jews were killed for no reason other than hate. Heck religions which are suppose to give glory to God are used for hate and killings and wars. So yes I believe her.
  • janet Giantfan 2012/08/30 23:24:36
    janet
    +2
    Well said : )
  • Nam Era Vet #1 DNA TLC 2012/08/30 17:09:20 (edited)
    Gabby Douglas
    Nam Era Vet #1 DNA TLC
    +3
    I can't think of one motive for the kid to lie. And I can think of a defensive motive to protect their monetary investment for those in the Gym to lie.
  • tikiteek 2012/08/30 16:21:21
    Gabby Douglas
    tikiteek
    +1
    Someone doesn't have any thing to do.
  • baboula 2012/08/30 15:27:43
    The Gym
    baboula
    It is fashionable to claim being bullied and she was probably told to she that besides how many people know where Virginia Beach is?
  • Jalysa ... baboula 2012/08/30 22:55:15
    Jalysa Ellis
    I do.... o.o I used to go there as a kid when I was in America during the summer.
  • baboula Jalysa ... 2012/08/31 15:03:55
    baboula
    sometimes you wonder - there are those that think California is made up of San Francisco, San Diego, and Los Angeles
  • joe mauro baboula 2012/08/31 00:11:57
    joe mauro
    everyone i know
  • Healingme 2012/08/30 14:55:43
    Gabby Douglas
    Healingme
    +1
    I hope the girls will give her an apology
  • Racefish 2012/08/30 14:48:57
    Gabby Douglas
    Racefish
    +2
    Of course the gym will deny it. The thing is kids will be kids and if someone is better they will do their best to bring them down to their level.
    Thankfully she went to Des Moines and got into a gym and a family that actually taught and nurtured her. She did a great job at the Olympics and I'm very happy she got the All Around. She well deserved it.
    As for the rest of the team, That Gold Medal is in the hands of a wonderful bunch of kids that worked their butts off. Great going for all.
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