Does Joe Paterno’s Statue Need to Be Removed?

If that is the face of Penn State, folks don't send your kids there. There will forever be a black cloud of negativity associated with the campus. Cover up is putting it mildly

its time

what he did was wrong but he was the face of penn state and still is. there is nothing wrong with that statue being there.

hmmm, the face of penn state is of a child rapist accomplice ?
are you sure that is what you ask for ???

Kinda what I was thinking ... ash backwards thinking these days. Guarantee you that if it were their child or sibling, they'd be screaming for that statue to be torn down.

Blah Blah Blah is all I seem to be able to hear when you talk (:

and yet you hurry back to " listen " to what I type.. :)

That would be a little stupid. Joe didn't do the nasty deeds. Leave him alone. Justice prevailed. Time to move forward.
Hell, maybe we should tear down the school as well....that would be just as ignorant.

Tell that to the kids that got rapped and molested that if he had spoken up wouldn't have. Where's the justice for those kids? You think jail time is true justice? To an extent, yes, but these people have to deal with issues that run so deep that if they honor this guy it's a slap in their face!!

paterno covered up the crimes,

paterno knew and hid the facts

paterno , for 15 years, permitted, allowed , encouraged , this sodomy in the football locker room shower.

paterno tried to negiotate a retirement when the grand jury had sandusky in their sights.

paterno forced others into silence on the rape of children..

ok, now defend this dirty deed thing , explain this justice of yours ......

According to more than one investigation, he actively and/or passively aided in the cover up of his creepy friends crimes. Do you really think an institute of higher learning should be adorned by the likeness of a man who would let children be abused for a football program??? Paterno is as guilty as his buddy.

Just wait.. if they don't.. someone will.. just wait and see- it's coming.. just wait. You can feel it coming.. just a matter of time!

He protected a child molester for years! He allowed children to get hurt!! He has lost all honor, all creditability and he should not be honored in anyway no matter how long he coached a football team, or has pasted on. What else did this guy do that we don't know about? Imagine if he had spoken up or stopped that perv? How many children would have been saved, and not been raped, molested, and given mental issues for the rest of their lives??!! ...

Sad state of affairs if they still honor this guy after what he did or "didn't do".

Even SHs in PA have voted 60%-40% to have it taken down.

There is no reason to have it up there anymore. His family deserves no more perks from the university and they should be stripped of their existing perks. I hope it's hot where JoePa is.

let it be. wait until everything dies down and then see who really wants the statue down

hmmm,, " wait untill everthing dies down " do you know that is a quote that paterno is on record saying about the sandusky rapes,, wait a while ,, well paterno waited 15 years untill they got caught ..

odd that you would use those terms / that wording,, did you do it on purpose ?

no i did not know Paterno used that

and , IMO, in your case of seeing what unfolds , this is a prudent action,

in paterno's case , it was a matter of suppresion of evidence ,

seems as though paterno took personal action to hide the actions of the child rapist .
sad , paterno really messed up , and that will go down as his legacy .. sad indeed.

Having said "leave it up," I have some caveats:

#1, Wait until ALL the facts have come through and seen the light of day: The "facts" so far are one-sided: DON'T CONVICT HIM IN THE PRESS. Take it ALL to court.

#2, "Damaging evidence" by the prosecution isn't always "damaging evidence" to the defense: When "facts" are released by the State they are only released to prove THEIR point, and Joe is no longer here to give his side. His son, family, and friends dispute much of the prosecution's "facts."

#3, Stop confusing Joe Paterno and Jerry Sandusky. We've seen PLENTY of evidence against Sandusky and he got what was coming to him. He will never enjoy a day again in his life outside of prison walls. I bet he'll be dead within 5 years. BUT JOE PATERNO IS NOT JERRY SANDUSKY.

#4, Joe did not go far enough to get rid of Sandusky: I have no problem saying that Joe let those young men (victims) down. How deep his culpability goes has yet to be proven. He DID take the matter to his "bosses" and email chatter taken out of context can seem to mean one thing when in context it means another.

And #5, IF and WHEN Joe Paterno's fault is determined to warrant it, the statue then MUST COME DOWN. But let the facts play out as they will. Don't tear anything down within the heat of the moment.

I'm really in between considering what he has done to Penn State itself,although he has proven to be a bad figure,at the same time he made the university prestigious regarding football.

As stated in this thread,it is up to the people in the university to decide what to do with the statue.

yes

Yes, why should he be honored for aiding and abeting a child molester.

Yes, we don't need to glorify people who think it is okay to abuse children.

let the boys/ men bust it down then go spit in sanduskys face

Yes.

Absolutely! Since when is it appropriate to honor people who are involved in scandals. Especially this kind.

Make them PROVE it before any decision is made, don't try him in the Court of Public Opinion any further.

Obviously, you have not read the 267-page report by Mr. Freeh. The report proves it. It doesn't matter what the Court of Public Opinion says.

You're right, I haven't, and if that's true, it's a shame.

The emails prove it.

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if he covered up for a child molester than he has NO RIGHT to have a statue up in his name. none AT ALL.

Paterno is a disgrace.

Paterno's failuere to take action and indeed coverup the crimes, left him just as guilty as Sandusky.

Paterno's inaction aided and abetted a serial pedophile, inexcusable.

Normally, I'd say no, but they can't conceal the fact that Paterno is a legend who coached there for 45 years.

I know he ignored what happened with Jerry Sandusky. I'm not stupid. What I'm saying is it'll be impossible to erase the history that Joe Paterno created for that university. Not once did I ever say what Paterno did was excusable, justifiable, or forgivable. Try to keep up here.

Actually I'm 33. If we're going to make an example out of Joe Paterno, they should do it out of OJ and all those other NFL players who break the law. More than anything, I think they should try the President of the university and all those others who were involved in the cover-up.

I never said Paterno didn't hide it into the dust. I'm looking at it from both sides of the issue. That man was the coach at that university for 45 years. If you went to Penn State and knew he won several championships for your alma mater, you might have a different opinion.

Stop trying to put words in my mouth, Okie. Just because someone doesn't agree with you on everything doesn't make your opinion superior. Issues like these aren't always black and white.