Does California have the right to ban “gay conversion” therapy sessions?
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2012/12/04 17:11:47
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A federal judge on Monday blocked California from enforcing its new gay-conversion ban on therapy that seeks to change the sexual orientation of minors from gay to straight.
The Los Angeles Times' Sacramento Bureau Chief Evan Halper reported that U.S. District Judge William Shubb ruled that the new law, SB 1172, signed by Gov. Jerry Brown earlier this year, may inhibit the 1st Amendment rights of therapists who oppose homosexuality. The judge signed a temporary injunction that prohibits the state from enforcing the ban, the first of its kind in the nation, against the three plaintiffs in the suit pending trial.

The Los Angeles Times' Sacramento Bureau Chief Evan Halper reported that U.S. District Judge William Shubb ruled that the new law, SB 1172, signed by Gov. Jerry Brown earlier this year, may inhibit the 1st Amendment rights of therapists who oppose homosexuality. The judge signed a temporary injunction that prohibits the state from enforcing the ban, the first of its kind in the nation, against the three plaintiffs in the suit pending trial.

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ProudProgressive 2012/12/04 17:47:05Yes+61"Gay conversion" is not scientifically valid and is in fact nothing more than an attempt to brainwash individuals by religious extremists. It does not benefit anyone (except those who make money by selling this nonsense) and poses a danger to any individual unfortunate enough to fall into their clutches.

















PLEASE read the official bill here: http://leginfo.legislature.ca... ,
AND what NARTH – (National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality) thinks about it here: http://narth.com/2012/05/cali...
BEFORE answering.
This ban could potentially INCREASE sexual abuse of minors and PROTECT abusers by limiting the scope of practice of professionals like psychiatrists, SCHOOL psychologists, therapists, nurses etc, from providing "reparative" therapy to minors and punishing them through discipline administered via their license holding agency,from providing "reparative" therapy to minors.
This may cause those who suffer from UNWANTED same-sex attractions to be brainwashed to accept homosexual behavior, thus helping to mold, accept and ENCOURAGE homosexuality behavior into a child's life AGAINST THEIR WILL.
A sexual orientation change from homosexual to heterosexual is partly a reparative process and partly a cognitive process. Motivation is the main part of the cognitive process. The motivation usually comes from religious beliefs, aspirations of a heterosexual marriage, and from a fact that gay propaganda avoids like the plague, which is that many who enter the gay world find its lifestyle very destructive. The main part of the reparative process is to understand and deal with the memories and hurt of same-sex rejection in childhood. Often there was sexual abuse that contributed to the unwanted same-sex attractions
One of the earliest studies supporting this position was that of Irving Bieber and associates. Comparison of 106 homosexuals with 100 male heterosexuals showed that mothers of the former had enmeshed seductive type relationships with their sons, while their fathers were detached, distant or rejecting. This study was contested by some who charged the researchers with bias, but a further study by Ray B. Evans, which also compared homosexuals with heterosexuals, reported similar results, this time among self-identified homosexuals who had never sought treatment.
Based upon his work with 200 male homosexuals, Gerard van den Aardweg stated that 79 percent described their mother as "overanxious", or "overconcerned" about them; their safety, health, and being overly sentimental when they met with some hardship, as well as manifesting other aspects of over-mothering. I...
One of the earliest studies supporting this position was that of Irving Bieber and associates. Comparison of 106 homosexuals with 100 male heterosexuals showed that mothers of the former had enmeshed seductive type relationships with their sons, while their fathers were detached, distant or rejecting. This study was contested by some who charged the researchers with bias, but a further study by Ray B. Evans, which also compared homosexuals with heterosexuals, reported similar results, this time among self-identified homosexuals who had never sought treatment.
Based upon his work with 200 male homosexuals, Gerard van den Aardweg stated that 79 percent described their mother as "overanxious", or "overconcerned" about them; their safety, health, and being overly sentimental when they met with some hardship, as well as manifesting other aspects of over-mothering. In addition, in 71 percent of homosexual cases, "the most important factor was the father's detachedness or nonparticipation in the son's upbringing. The fathers of 38 percent of the men were so hypercritical that the sons were made to feel either rejected and/or inferior.
Another study of about 1500 homosexuals showed much less influence by the mother, while far more reported an unaffectionate or detached father, and approximately half of homosexuals reported they had negative feelings toward their fathers, versus 29 percent of heterosexuals.
Childhood sexual abuse is well attested to demonstrate a correlation to the incidence of homosexuality among those affected by it. A large national survey of almost 35,000 Americans showed that more than three times as many men and women who had been sexually abused as children became homosexuals, versus that of heterosexuals. Another study reported that 58 percent of male adolescents who later became homosexuals suffered sexual abuse as children,while 90 percent who did not suffer sexual abuse identified themselves as heterosexuals. In addition, 43 percent of male homosexuals reported sexual activity with another male during the ages of 10-12, versus 9 percent of heterosexuals.[18]
Dr. Jeffrey Satinover, M.D.
In 1999, Dr. Jeffrey Satinover, M.D. wrote the following regarding the position of sexual abuse being a contributing factor for homosexuality:
“ Many studies demonstrate a sadly disproportionate extent of sexual abuse in the childhoods of homosexual men, suggesting at the least that both homosexual unhappiness and homosexuality itself derive from common causes.. ”
In 2001, the journal Archives of Sexual Behavior published a study entitled Comparative data of childhood and adolescence molestation in heterosexual and homosexual persons. The abstract for this article states the following:
“ In research with 942 nonclinical adult participants, gay men and lesbian women reported a significantly higher rate of childhood molestation than did heterosexual men and women. Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation. Twenty-two percent of lesbian women in contrast to 1% of heterosexual women reported homosexual molestation. This research is apparently the first survey that has reported substantial homosexual molestation of girls.
In 1998, Dr. William C. Holmes, M.D. and Dr. Gail B. Slap, M.D. reported in the medi...
Dr. Jeffrey Satinover, M.D.
In 1999, Dr. Jeffrey Satinover, M.D. wrote the following regarding the position of sexual abuse being a contributing factor for homosexuality:
“ Many studies demonstrate a sadly disproportionate extent of sexual abuse in the childhoods of homosexual men, suggesting at the least that both homosexual unhappiness and homosexuality itself derive from common causes.. ”
In 2001, the journal Archives of Sexual Behavior published a study entitled Comparative data of childhood and adolescence molestation in heterosexual and homosexual persons. The abstract for this article states the following:
“ In research with 942 nonclinical adult participants, gay men and lesbian women reported a significantly higher rate of childhood molestation than did heterosexual men and women. Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation. Twenty-two percent of lesbian women in contrast to 1% of heterosexual women reported homosexual molestation. This research is apparently the first survey that has reported substantial homosexual molestation of girls.
In 1998, Dr. William C. Holmes, M.D. and Dr. Gail B. Slap, M.D. reported in the medical journal JAMA the following:
“ Adolescent boys, particularly those victimized by males, were up to 7 times more likely to identify themselves as homosexual or bisexual than peers who had not been abused
In 1997, the researcher Gundlach studied the issue of childhood sexual molestation in regards to lesbians and according the medical researchers Gundlach found the following:
“ Gundlach (1977) surveyed 225 lesbian and 233 heterosexual women, and found that 30% of the heterosexual women and 21% of the lesbians had been raped. Of the 30 women who had been raped before the age of 14, 26 had an adult homosexual orientation while 9 had an adult heterosexual orientation. ”
In addition, the abstract for the Gundlach study states the following additional detail:
“ Sixteen of the 17 girls, age 4 to 16, molested or seduced (6 for a long time) by a relative or close family friend are lesbians as adults.
Peter LaBarbera's statement above concerning overcoming homosexuality certainly has some evidence supporting it. For example, in 1980 a study was published in the American Journal of Psychiatry and eleven men participated in this study. The study reported that eleven homosexual men became heterosexuals "without explicit treatment and/or long-term psychotherapy" through their participation in a Pentecostal church. The results of this study are not surprising since Christian faith has shown itself to be effective in combating drug addiction. For example, Christian group Teen Challenge reported the following:
“ Teen Challenge claims of a 70% cure rate for the drug addicts graduating from their program attracted the attention of the U.S. Federal Government in 1973. Most secular drug rehabilitation programs only experienced a cure rate of 1-15% of their graduates. The National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), part of the U.S. Department of Health, Education, and Welfare, funded the first year of this study to evaluate the long term results of the Teen Challenge program. ”
Teen Challenge has a number of studies that indicate the high effectiveness of their drug treatment program compared to other programs. Studies indicate that consumers of secular counseling psychology for alcoholism receive hardly any benefit at all.
http://georgemiller.house.gov...
Why do we need such laws? Ask any survivor of a WWASP or similar program in the US or abroad about the psychological, physical and sexual abuse that happens in conversion programs and therapies. Ask them how are their family relationships now and whom do they trust. Parents considering conversion therapy for their minor child/youth should search through the message boards of survivors from these programs. Many of these people were hurt deeply. The people overseeing these programs went largely unpunished for their crimes and made millions in profits.
http://caica.org/index.htm
Dr. Berlin says pedophilia is just another “sexual orientation.” Some of the “minor attracted” conference-goers insisted that they were “born that way.” Sound familiar?
Again, not surprising when you consider that one of Jennings’s ideological mentors is “gay” activist pioneer Harry Hay. “One of the people that’s always inspired me is Harry Hay,” he has said glowingly.
What did Mr. Hay think? I’ll let him speak for himself. In 1983, while addressing the pedophile North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), Hay said the following:
“[I]t seems to me that in the gay community the people who should be running interference for NAMBLA are the parents and friends of gays. Because if the parents and friends of gays are truly friends of gays, they would know from their gay kids that the relationship with an older man is precisely what 13-, 14-, and 15-year-old kids need more than anything else in the world. And they would be welcoming this, and welcoming the opportunity for young gay kids to have the kind of experience that they would need.”
(Oddly, there’s another “gay” activist group, Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays, or PFLAG, that frequently partners with GLSEN. I wonder where they came up with the catchy title.)
• Geoffrey Cornish, a well-respected Solana Beach, California therapist was sentenced to 23 years in prison in September, 2001 for sexually molesting boys who came to him for therapy. Cornish, who is HIV-positive, was also a coach for the Torrey Pines High School surf team. Cornish told police he had been molested himself by a Boy Scout leader for three years when he was living in England.
Additionally, these sick, evil acts were likely committed by adults that these kids trusted, which explains the anger manifested by the gay community.
If more gays would speak out about the abuse, even anonymously, it would give others that were abused the courage to as well, and PREVENT even MORE innocent children from falling victim to sexual predators.
I hope that these victims realize that what happened to them is NOT their fault, and they did NOT deserve it. And there is nothing to be ashamed of. What they need and deserve is healing and someone(who is caring and stable) to listen and help them through the pain.
(1) public rest rooms, where "glory holes" are cut out of stall partitions so that men may anonymously commit sodomy and fellatio on each other;
(2) pornographic movie houses and bookstores and peep shows;
(3) bus stations;
(4) service stations;
(5) public libraries;
(6) highway rest stops;
(7) public parks;
(8) public baths or "health clubs," where men congregate and watch other men sodomize each other;
(9) "gay bars" and night clubs; and
(10) certain street corners where homosexuals "cruise" for anonymous partners
Reference: K. Jay and A. Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, 1979, page 500. See also Rechy, The Sexual Outlaw. Grove Press, 1977, and the
Gayellow Pages, which are compiled by homosexuals for each large city and show exactly where homosexuals congregate, and for what purposes.
It is interesting to note that bedrooms did not even make the top ten!
Beyond that, I predict two things. First, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals will overturn this misguided district judge. Second, that more and more states will recognize this quackery as abuse and put similar laws on THEIR books.
Stop Child Abuse in Residential Programs for Teens Act of 2008 (H.R. 6358)