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David Beckham re-signs with LA Galaxy. Good for North American Soccer?

seathanaich 2012/01/19 20:02:31
Becks re-signing is good for the Galaxy and the MLS.
Becks is over-rated, and a bit of a circus act.
I am one of those dumb Americans who hates soccer, but still has to talk about it rather than just ignore it.
Meh. The Galaxy already get to bend the rules too much in a so-called salary cap league.
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I'm a fan of the Vancouver Whitecaps, and Mr Beckham didn't join his team for their one visit to Vancouver in 2011.

I think we can all agree that his "image" is bigger than his playing skill or his on-field contribution, but he's a better player than his critics admit. Watching his performances in the 2011 playoffs and MLS Cup show that rather conclusively.

He was being courted by Paris Saint-Germain, and will play for the "Great Britain" team at the 2012 Olympics in London (as one of the allowed "over-age" players). He has flirted in the past with AC Milan, and has periodically appeared to give the MLS and his team, the LA Galaxy, some pretty obvious snubs: but not last year, when it seems he finally got serious about the club and the league.

I think that his signing is of interest to the non-soccer fan who follows "celebrity" more than the sport. But I also think that the fact that he has re-signed for 2 years, effectively finishing his career, sends a signal to the world media and to other players that this isn't just a retirement project, or a money grab (like playing in Qatar); that he (and people like Thierry Henry) are helping MLS lose its self-consciousness, and that the MLS is now fairly well established as a solid "second tier" soccer league on the world stage, on par with Brazil, Argentina, or France, and behind the "big four" of England, Germany, Spain, and Italy. What do you think? Intelligent answers only please.
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  • Disko Pickle 2012/02/12 07:46:46
    Meh. The Galaxy already get to bend the rules too much in a so-called salary ...
    Disko Pickle
    We have soccer in North America?
  • BarçaSupporter 2012/02/07 22:41:12
    Becks re-signing is good for the Galaxy and the MLS.
    BarçaSupporter
    Beckham remaining with Galaxy is a good thing in my opinion. Although MLS has improved by leaps and bounds, I still think it's going to be another 20 years or so until MLS is really on par with European, Brazilian, and Argentine leagues. It's already better than the CONCACAF leagues. What we need is to keep encouraging and establishing footballing academies where we train our youths from the beginning. Secondly, we should end our affiliation with CONCACAF and look towards CONMEBOL and their Champions League. Thirdly, MLS should stop playing "summer soccer" or play by a proper football schedule like Serie A, La Liga, EPL, etc.
  • seathan... BarçaSu... 2012/02/08 00:54:12
    seathanaich
    You can't play winter soccer in Toronto, Montreal, Columbus, Chicago, Boston, New York, Philadelphia, or Denver, so, like several European leagues, that's never going to happen.

    Travel to COMEBOL is pretty long. They have great continental competitions, but they're not part of our continent. I didn't like the "guest" teams at the Gold Cup - it devalues the competition.

    MLS is already on par with or superior to every Euro league except Eng, Ger, Ita, Spa, and probably Fra. There are a few clubs wealthier (Porto, Rangers, Ajax, etc), but those leagues are weaker. Slow steady growth will see MLS outpace the Arg and Bra leagues within the decade, other than a few uber-clubs like Flamengo or Boca Juniors.

    Agreed on academies, but we also need to see a stable Tier II, currently the NASL and USL Pro teams.
  • BarçaSu... seathan... 2012/02/08 01:45:57 (edited)
    BarçaSupporter
    The only thing with the weather is that you're supposed to be able to play football in almost every weather condition. The play in extreme heat in the Mid East and they play in extreme cold weather like Moscow and St. Petersburg, etc. I've played numerous times during a snowfall. I just believe (and fear) that until N. America gets out from the CONCACAF shadow, and stop treating the sport like a summer activity, they're not going to gain the level of international credibility they desire.
  • seathan... BarçaSu... 2012/02/09 23:49:14
    seathanaich
    "The only thing with the weather is that you're supposed to be able to play football in almost every weather condition."

    That's great, but people aren't going to go to the stadium when it's cold and snowy. Did you see the highlights from England last week? The weather turned the games into a bit of a farce.

    Yes, I'm on Vancouver Island. We play a winter soccer sched here. That doesn't mean it's appropriate for the rest of the continent. Cheers.
  • BarçaSu... seathan... 2012/02/10 09:15:22 (edited)
    BarçaSupporter
    I thought the matches were entertaining, including when they had to get shovels to clear the 6 and 18 yard boxes. If anything, it helped me point out to my sons why the sport is superior to the usual American sports, that need ideal weather conditions and a perfect alignment of the stars to play. Don't underestimate the passion that football fans have for their club and the sport in general, since when you feel passionate enough about the sport you don't really care about the weather conditions. Russia, Sweden, and even Ukraine have fairly respectable leagues and weather conditions similar to Toronto or Chicago, and they still manage to play by an international schedule. Until MLS plays by international standards, they'll only continue to get either Post Barcelona/Arsenal Thierry Henrys, or at best players like Donovan or De Rosario who are considered hot stuff in MLS but would just be average compared to a Barcelona or Liverpool B squad player.
  • ►Cesar◄ 2012/01/26 08:59:44
    Becks re-signing is good for the Galaxy and the MLS.
    ►Cesar◄
    it is good
    but they need more players like that
    and some more that are cheap but good players
  • seathan... ►Cesar◄ 2012/01/26 19:32:47
    seathanaich
    If they're cheap, they won't be good.
    If they're good, they won't be cheap.

    Vancouver Whitecaps just renegotiated the salary of Camillo Sanvezzo, they're top scorer last season. It will be interested what it moves to . . . but you have to pay more for better players. Cheers.
  • ►Cesar◄ seathan... 2012/01/27 05:52:56
    ►Cesar◄
    I mean the young players that are doing well in north and south america
    europe gets a lot of players from this 2 regions
  • BarçaSu... ►Cesar◄ 2012/02/10 00:17:03
    BarçaSupporter
    European clubs typically get players from a few of the CONMEBOL nations like Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Paraguay. Most CONCACAF players (MLS included) are not good enough yet to play EPL and certainly not La Liga.
  • ►Cesar◄ BarçaSu... 2012/02/10 01:38:40
    ►Cesar◄
    they are starting to look in Mexico
  • BarçaSu... ►Cesar◄ 2012/02/10 08:48:49
    BarçaSupporter
    Too true, I forgot about Man United and Tottenham
  • ►Cesar◄ BarçaSu... 2012/02/10 09:21:21
    ►Cesar◄
    and chelsea and liverpool
  • BarçaSu... ►Cesar◄ 2012/02/11 06:17:03
    BarçaSupporter
    Liverpool is my 2nd favourite club, but the only Latin Americans we have are from Uruguay and Argentina, and I believe a Brazilian or two in the academy. I know Davila went to Chelsea from Jalisco, but I don't think he's played with them yet as he's been on loan ...
  • ►Cesar◄ BarçaSu... 2012/02/12 18:30:02
    ►Cesar◄
    yep
  • Feria~THEZombieSlayingB!tch... 2012/01/19 20:31:28 (edited)
    Meh. The Galaxy already get to bend the rules too much in a so-called salary ...
    Feria~THEZombieSlayingB!tch of PHAET!~Badass Incarnate~
    +1
    None of the above.

    Sadly, I think that the U.S. will never appreciate the beautiful game. I hope Canada does, but I doubt it for the U.S. Especially for women's soccer, sadly. I want nothing more than my favorite sport to be popular, but with Football, Basketball and Baseball? Nope.
  • seathan... Feria~T... 2012/01/19 21:17:54 (edited)
    seathanaich
    +1
    The game is very solid in the US, and growing. You are in South Carolina, so I'm sure you don't get much MLS content in your local media. I know that there wasn't much MLS coverage here in British Columbia before the Whitecaps joined MLS last year.

    Success is a relative thing. Soccer doesn't need to displace football or baseball in the US, or hockey in Canada, in order to be considered a success. MLS games before 20,000 fans in new soccer-specific stadiums definitely constitutes success. Seattle is getting 36,000 out to every game, and Portland, Vancouver, Toronto, and Los Angeles all have very healthy attendances.

    If you are interested in following the MLS, their web site is pretty good. The well supported US teams like Seattle and Portland are definitely well-established in their community. The support in Canada's three MLS teams - Vancouver Whitecaps, Toronto FC, and Montreal Impact - is above the league average.

    I would say that Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle, and Portland are the top 5 MLS teams in terms of the profile they have within their communities, given their respective attendances, commercial sponsorships, availability on television, etc. Beckham (and Roy Keane) give the Galaxy the kind of profile they need to get noticed in a city as big as LA. Cheers.
  • BarçaSu... Feria~T... 2012/02/12 07:12:13
    BarçaSupporter
    +1
    I know what you mean. A sport with continuous play and no commercial breaks doesn't mesh in this country. BTW USA's women's national squad was brilliant this past summer.
  • Feria~T... BarçaSu... 2012/02/12 07:25:31
    Feria~THEZombieSlayingB!tch of PHAET!~Badass Incarnate~
    +1
    Exactly. People just don't have the attention span, lol :) YES! FINALLY! Someone else who's seen what they did last summer!

    You've restored my faith in humanity, good sir!
  • seathanaich 2012/01/19 20:05:50
    Becks re-signing is good for the Galaxy and the MLS.
    seathanaich
    +1
    It's not so much the message he sends by re-signing, as the message he would have sent by moving elsewhere, which would have been: "so long, it's been fun, thanks for the cash, but I'm going to Paris SG so my wife can shop in Paris and I can return to a "real" football league". I think that's how it would have played out, and the alternative message he has sent is instead "I want to defend the title we just won, and I can still get called up to play for my country while playing in MLS, which means the calibre of play here is respected by people like Stuart Pierce (who is managing the UK Olympic team)".

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