Could This Video Game Violate Child Porn Laws?

by Christine Lusey Posted 2011/05/24 19:00:00

Related Topics: Dead Or Alive, Team Ninja, Sweden, Child Porn, Nintendo, Europe

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Game distributor Nintendo has decided not to release a new title in Sweden over concerns that it might violate child porn laws.

Three female characters in Dead Or Alive: Dimensions, for Nintendo's 3DS handheld system, are both underage and scantily-clad. And in one game mode, players can pose characters from various angles. Swedish law forbids the depiction of underage girls in pornographic situations.

Ironically, the gamer who initially reported his concerns to Swedish authorities wasn't trying to get the game banned; he wanted to show the law needed to be changed. But Nintendo decided not to take any chances, issuing a confirmation that they weren't releasing the game, without referencing the controversy directly:

"Nintendo of Europe have decided not to release the game in Sweden, for various reasons. However, they do not want to list any details regarding their decision."

They will also not release the game in Norway or Denmark.

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Kris Says Hi 2011/05/24 23:03:59

No

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I thought that porn showed sex and naked bodies, not fighting sorcerers and dueling ninjas.
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Bart 2011/10/02 21:27:27

Undecided

Child porn is real children that are naked isn't it and that isn't real children and there not naked so
NO

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he in the dark who stands a... 2011/07/01 17:38:22

No

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child porn laws state that expliced pictures of young children is classified as child porn. However anime is not real therefor it cannot be classified classifiedchild pporn. Not only that but if you want to get tecnical half the the children in the world are wearing less than people in these games.

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Austin 2011/06/01 15:14:27

No

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OH MY GOD, HER UPPER THIGH IS SHOWING AND SHE'S ONLY 17!

/Sarcasm

Of this breaks any laws, then the laws are stupid.

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NioEX 2011/05/30 16:35:21

No

The "Dead or Alive" franchise doesn't advocate pornographic sequences. They just spit on women, viewing them nothing more than eye candy without any other redeemable qualities! If Nintendo doesn't realize that then they shouldn't be messing with the IP in the first place..

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Blue Meanie 2011/05/26 17:34:55

No

This is stupid

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Cause Unknown 2011/05/26 05:49:30

No

+1
Porn involves nudity and sex.

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Pixie·MzAwesome♠ƤĦĂĔŢ♠ 2011/05/25 19:06:18
edifyguy 2011/05/25 18:43:54

No

See my response to Sonic.

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kobidobidog 2011/05/25 18:40:46

Undecided

Look, Humans, Whatever you see on this green earth is what a human would call porn. I wish humans would throw out that word,and not use it even as God never used the word naked to Adam,and Eve in the garden of Eden not giving guilt to the new creations he loved with all of his heart.

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edifyguy to kobidob... 2011/05/25 18:46:02

You have a distorted view of the world. God made us without sin, then we sinned and messed ourselves up. Now, we do have lust, and it is helpful to use clothing to combat that. We gave ourselves guilt, and now we must deal with it in appropriate ways.

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kobidob... to edifyguy 2011/05/26 19:14:48 (edited)

Have Jesus in you who is God and guilt will not be given for God never gave guilt,and God never will. Satan gives guilt,and devils lust to consume us even as we want to consume food. When the devil is out of this body it will no longer cast as shadow when light shines. The guilt we give each other are devils in the souls of whoever giving the guilt to whoever in action, and words, and pet magazines, in animation of all kinds. Humans seek to hide those parts in every way they can. Why they do is the devil in them hates those parts, and that is why furry suits are not allowed to have those parts seen by the general public,and why humans are not allowed to be as naked as a bush that God made. Humans are using clothing to replace their blunder losing the light covering in the garden of Eden with their own works,and mans works will not save them. Man is making nudity inappropriate, and the devil wants it to be thought of the same way. Guilt started when Eve meet the beguiling serpent.

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edifyguy to kobidob... 2011/05/26 21:46:17

You're half right, but you still have a distorted view of the world. If you watch this with an open mind, it will set the other half right. Don't let the title confuse you; nakedness is very much a part of this dissertation. Plus, it's very interesting.

http://www.desiringgod.org/re...

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kobidob... to edifyguy 2011/05/27 03:09:41 (edited)

I am 100% right. Other sheep Jesus has,and I see him in the zoosexuals,and furries of the furry fandom that did not think they had the Loving Lord in them. atheists also show the loving fruits of God as well as agnostics. The works they do reveals who has God in them,and who does not.The words also shows me who has God and who does not. Test the spirits,and I have a very good way of doing that.

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edifyguy to kobidob... 2011/05/28 15:19:04

But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. Isaiah 64:6

But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Heb 11:6

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6

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kobidob... to edifyguy 2011/06/10 06:59:20

The unclean is because we die being unfit to live in heaven because we have blood in this body that dies.The faith is true,and other sheep he has that have been persecuted,and they also have Jesus in them .That is why they are persecuted. I tell those persecuted humans,and they embrace what i say to them. They know his voice,and follow him.The furries of the furry fandom,and the gay,and zoosexuals,and pedofiles have a gentle spirit understanding,and following the words of loving truth from the Lord God of heaven ,and earth..

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edifyguy to kobidob... 2011/06/14 16:23:33

They embrace what you say because you say what they want to hear. It is not true. Your feel-good lies are sending people to hell. I hope you are comfortable with that. It won't feel good when you stand before God and give an account, I can tell you that!

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kobidob... to edifyguy 2011/06/16 14:56:16 (edited)

Do good to the least of these his brethren,and the persecution of the gay, zoosexuals, pedofiles, and whoever else will not occur with all loving as one.
Condemn the sexualities,and condemn yourself. isn't that what will happen to Satan? Do the same,and have the same end.
The concept of hell that you teach is a lie. Had hell be eternal burning Satan would not be death able to sustain life,and that is false..
Revelation 20:9 (King James Version)

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about , and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Wicked are turned to ashes. Redeemed are not traversing to, and from the city of God through a lava pit to..

From the get go the deceiver is in you.whispering in your ear, resist him, and he will flee from you.

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edifyguy to kobidob... 2011/06/16 22:44:39

Wow. You know just enough Bible to be really dangerous. Hell is real, but Satan is not there. Furthermore, hell is a place where you wish to die, but can't. It is eternal torment.

I have no idea what you're getting at about pedophiles (try spelling it correctly, while you're at it) but you certainly sound like you're defending deviants. Criminal charges have been leveled against bloggers in the past who encouraged criminal acts. God hates sin, but He sent His son to die to save sinners. Furthermore, there is no way apart from Christ's perfect sacrifice to be saved. "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6. Was Jesus intolerant, or was He a liar, or was He telling the truth?

Also, you've misquoted scripture, and I can't let it go. I wasn't even going to dignify your heresy with a reply, but that made me do it. "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." James 4:7. Does the first part of the verse, which you omitted, have nothing to do with it? It has everything to do with it. Only as we submit to God will we have the desire and the power to resist Satan, which by the way has nothing to do with resisting temptation, as you characterize it.

You are a dangerous man. ...

Wow. You know just enough Bible to be really dangerous. Hell is real, but Satan is not there. Furthermore, hell is a place where you wish to die, but can't. It is eternal torment.

I have no idea what you're getting at about pedophiles (try spelling it correctly, while you're at it) but you certainly sound like you're defending deviants. Criminal charges have been leveled against bloggers in the past who encouraged criminal acts. God hates sin, but He sent His son to die to save sinners. Furthermore, there is no way apart from Christ's perfect sacrifice to be saved. "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6. Was Jesus intolerant, or was He a liar, or was He telling the truth?

Also, you've misquoted scripture, and I can't let it go. I wasn't even going to dignify your heresy with a reply, but that made me do it. "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." James 4:7. Does the first part of the verse, which you omitted, have nothing to do with it? It has everything to do with it. Only as we submit to God will we have the desire and the power to resist Satan, which by the way has nothing to do with resisting temptation, as you characterize it.

You are a dangerous man. I hope you either learn the truth or are silenced by a Holy God before you destroy more lives with your "doctrines of devils." "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils." 1 Timothy 4:1
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kobidob... to edifyguy 2011/06/17 03:57:01

Love all and don't worry abound being ashes under the feet of the righteous.God does not take pleasure in the death of the wicked,did you get that death? the teaching of eternal burning is Satan wish,and we wop0uld have had it had God not protected the tree of life after the fall of man,and had it not been protected our burnt out sun copula be the hell Satan would have wished,and freezing forever afterwards. That dream comes from the same churches that spawned terrorism with the same god of war because the terrorists like Osama had no other model to go by. The ones terrorizing nudist,and treating zoosexuals with death are the dangerous ones.and the military killing calling it good,and humans bowing to hate, and the death penalty like good Molech worshipers.Satan is deviant in the way he lies,and not sex of any kind,.Because you die you have sin in you. Condemn whoever and condemn your soul, got that? Jesus does not condemn, Jesus has to be in you to save your soul.Say you have Jesus, and condemn,and take Christs name in vain. Resist the devil and you will not do the things of the devil. The scribes,and paraphrases had the devil in them,and they were always trying to find fault with him,right? The ones accusing whoever are worshiping the one that accuses,and that is the devi...

Love all and don't worry abound being ashes under the feet of the righteous.God does not take pleasure in the death of the wicked,did you get that death? the teaching of eternal burning is Satan wish,and we wop0uld have had it had God not protected the tree of life after the fall of man,and had it not been protected our burnt out sun copula be the hell Satan would have wished,and freezing forever afterwards. That dream comes from the same churches that spawned terrorism with the same god of war because the terrorists like Osama had no other model to go by. The ones terrorizing nudist,and treating zoosexuals with death are the dangerous ones.and the military killing calling it good,and humans bowing to hate, and the death penalty like good Molech worshipers.Satan is deviant in the way he lies,and not sex of any kind,.Because you die you have sin in you. Condemn whoever and condemn your soul, got that? Jesus does not condemn, Jesus has to be in you to save your soul.Say you have Jesus, and condemn,and take Christs name in vain. Resist the devil and you will not do the things of the devil. The scribes,and paraphrases had the devil in them,and they were always trying to find fault with him,right? The ones accusing whoever are worshiping the one that accuses,and that is the devil. he gives guilt,and condemns too.That is why we have a legal system with mans wisdom God
calls foolish. 2 Timothy 3:12,Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.The sexualities have over our history,and,Matthew 7:2 :King James Bible
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Matthew 25:45,King James Bible

Humans are more than willing to throw their soul away judging the sexualities,and by having a man made legal system.
Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of the least of these, ye did [it] not to me.
Think of all the humans that humans have persecuted in the name of Christianity.

1 John 4 ,12,
If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
We have had a lot of imperfect human persecuting many,and the ones called trolls on youtube.saying mean things to furries,and gays,and zoosexuals,and pedofiles too. This has to end to save the souls of whoever. This planet is the proving ground to see who will live peaceably with all men in preparation for the biggest move anyone has ever taken.
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edifyguy to kobidob... 2011/06/17 16:26:08

Wow. You are either working for Satan, or severely deceived. I can't help you.

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kobidob... to edifyguy 2011/06/17 18:52:14

The devil takes pleasure in the death of whoever.Can't you see what I wrote or are ungodly insults the only thing you have left in your arsenal?

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edifyguy to kobidob... 2011/06/18 00:57:36

I have many things left in the arsenal, and I'm not meaning to be insulting. I am merely stating facts. I can't help you. You either can't or won't see the truth in the things I am telling you. Satan has blinded your eyes to the truth. I hope that you one day do indeed learn to "resist the devil," because right now, I hear him using you as a mouthpiece to spread lies. I will pray for your freedom.

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kobidob... to edifyguy 2011/07/08 04:45:05 (edited)

I am for life, and the devil is for death. There is no sex with the devil, and if you think so you are mistaken.I am for freedom of the sexualities, and freedom to be nude like nature is nude,and no oppression,and the devil hates all things that live ,and breath. Sorry nice try., but I am for what Jesus who is God is for,and that is for peace on earth even as it is in heaven, and be not for that,and whoever will know who they are for. Porn is nature seen see every day in things a second old on up, and no one says anything bad about that. Say nothing bad about the other, and judge yourself, and be like Jesus who does the same.

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kobidob... to edifyguy 2011/06/17 04:08:57 (edited)

We are unclean because we die. If we do all those things, and don't have giving forgiving love all the rest will like be like tinkling symbols,and surrounding brass.

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edifyguy to kobidob... 2011/06/17 16:30:22

Yes, I Corinthians 13 talks about the necessity of love to make good works worthwhile, but our love cannot save our souls. Furthermore, you have the uncleanness backwards; we die because we are unclean. Only Christ's love, in His loving sacrifice to buy our forgiveness, and hence cleanness, can save our souls. He offers this gift freely to all, and all we need do is admit our own sinfulness and accept His imputed righteousness to be positionally clean before God, having our sins covered in Christ's perfect righteousness.

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kobidob... to edifyguy 2011/06/17 19:09:58 (edited)

It is Jesus in whoever to do those good works,and whoever can be doing them totally unaware of God being in them doing them, but the words of men show if they are defiling themselves or not or being an abomination to God perverting the truth or not.The love that loves all is not the natural man at all for it is Jesus in you to do his good pleasure to show love at all. The body is unclean,and the soul is salvageable with Jesus in it. Having Christ in us cleanses the whole body like leaven leaven's the whole loaf. BY their good works ye shall know them. A person does not have to call themselves a
Christian either. Humans.needing a broken and contrite heart are the ones openly hating oppressing giving fear,and persecution with hateful words to whoever. Or have murdered or stole from whoever are the ones needing to repent. I see many lost soils going after zoosexuals, pedofiles, furries,and gays acting anti Christ.Humans wanting to kill humans. Even the murder should be projected and not
killed. Those that want to kill them are the ones needing Jesus repenting.When they do will be covered with Christs righteousness that does not condemn anyone.

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edifyguy to kobidob... 2011/06/18 01:03:20

"Christs righteousness that does not condemn anyone." There's your fundamental problem. You do not recognize that Christ is the righteous Judge of all the earth. The Bible emphatically states that He is that.

This may be enlightening, if you are interested in the Truth.
http://www.gpp-5grace.com/Kno...

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kartoshka 2011/05/25 18:37:08

No

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i don't see what's so terribly bad about it...

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Boo Gotti 2011/05/25 18:36:45

No

wow you have to be a real siko to get off on a video game...wow!!

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Blip 2011/05/25 18:36:12

No

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No but I wish Japanese video games would stay away from the school girl eroticism and effeminate male characters.

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Brittany 2011/05/25 18:27:26

No

i thought games like these were for mature people to play anyway.

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Patric 2011/05/25 18:17:12

No

looks like the political correct police are out again..

ok, for a cartoon to be child porn , is it the age of the person that the cartoon deplicts or is it the age of the cartoon, as in drawn in 1991 would make the character 20 years old this year..

Christine , are you fooling with me ???

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Sonic 2011/05/25 17:53:35

No

unless there is an intention to sexually arouse the player, there is no porn law broken.

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edifyguy to Sonic 2011/05/25 18:42:33

I wouldn't doubt that there IS that intention, but I don't think that's the issue. Depicting someone in a state of undress is pornography, regardless of the so-called intent. It's hard enough to quantify porn by that definition, much less try to prove "intention," which is impossible.

The issue is whether the state of undress the female characters almost unilaterally appear in is sufficiently undressed to qualify as porn. Typically, as long as genitals and breasts are not exposed, and no sexual acts are being depicted, the material is not legally deemed pornographic. Unless the girl with the green skirt has no underwear beneath it, for example, I fail to understand what the issue is here.

Don't misunderstand; I think that the amount of skin female characters in these games show is scandalous, and leads to a lot of sexual over stimulation in the young males who make up (I think) the majority of the population that plays games like these. I personally suspect that this is intentional. Still, I don't see any obvious way that this is illegal.

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Early in the Morning 2011/05/25 17:09:48

No

In China too young is just a name.Swden is just hospitable to chinese traditions.

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cellophane 2011/05/25 16:46:03

No

I can't comment on Swedish laws, but in the US, even naked children do not constitute child porn. It requires a sexual slant: explicit sexual situations, implicit sexual situations, or a focus on the genitalia. A game does not break these laws by having the user able to view the picture from different angles any more than a photograph of a nude child is porn because a viewer can use a magnifying glass on the genitals.

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cmdrbnd007 2011/05/25 16:38:35

No

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I'm sorry, I didn't see anything inappropriate.

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Captain K.A. 2011/05/25 16:26:48

No

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First of all that isn't porn in the video posted, that's an rpg video game. Second of all I don't think cartoon characters can be violated. If they used real childeren, or based their charecters off real childeren. But I don't see how drawing little girls can be illegal. No matter how odd it may be.

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edifyguy to Captain... 2011/05/25 18:47:24

A drawing is a representation, just as a photograph is. Furthermore, these 3D characters are much more realistic than most drawings. Legally, I doubt there is a distinction.

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Captain... to edifyguy 2011/05/25 20:08:56

No, I'm talking about real life people from the RL.

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