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Chuck Norris -- Keep the GAYS OUT of the Boy Scouts! Do you agree or disagree with him?

kyle 2012/06/26 19:41:19
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Chuck Norris
believes gay people have NO PLACE in the Boy Scouts of America ... and claims plans to overturn the "century-old policy" to ban them is simply un-American.

Chuck
-- an outspoken Republican political activist -- just penned an article
for AmmoLand.com ... titled, "Is Obama Creating a Pro-Gay Boy Scouts of
America?"

In the article, Norris attacks James Turley
-- a high ranking BSA official who recently announced his plan to "seek
a change" to a Boy Scouts policy that bans gay Scouts and gay Scout
leaders.

72-year-old Norris suggests Turley is only championing
the cause because he's trying to curry favor with Obama's "pro-gay"
administration.

Norris talks about the Boy Scouts as epitomizing the best of America. The insinuation ... that gays don't.
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  • reaper 2012/06/27 07:44:35
    disagree
    reaper
  • Herb reaper 2012/07/25 00:40:30
    Herb
    they are christian and private organiztion.
    boy scouts don't allow atheist or gays
    the Supreme Court affirmed the right of the Boy Scouts of America to expel openly gay leaders and members;

    It is because the Boy Scouts is a Christian organization. Part of their Oath is ".....I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law...." If a child doesn't acknowledge he/she is an Atheist, there is no ban against them. Like any non-profit organization, they are allowed to have whatever rules they desire, as long as they fall within certain guidelines, one being "Not for Profit."
  • reaper Herb 2012/07/25 03:21:54
    reaper
    yeah, this kind of further proves the fundie christian agenda.
  • Herb reaper 2012/07/25 03:32:48
    Herb
    According to its mission statement, the Boy Scouts of America seeks "to prepare young people to make ethical and moral choices over their lifetimes by instilling in them the values of the Scout Oath and Law".[1] All members are required, as a condition of membership, to promise to uphold and obey both of these pledges. The texts of BSA's Scout Oath and Scout Law for Boy Scouting have remained unchanged since they were approved in 1911,[4] and every member agrees to follow them on their application form.



    Scout Oath
    On my honor I will do my best
    To do my duty to God and my country
    and to obey the Scout Law;
    To help other people at all times;
    To keep myself physically strong,
    mentally awake, and morally straight.



    Scout Law
    A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent.

    Spirituality has been an integral part of the international Scouting movement since its inception. As early as 1908, Scouting founder Robert Baden-Powell wrote in the first Scout handbook that, "No man is much good unless he believes in God and obeys His laws."[5]

    Religious organizations host/sponsor over 60% of the approximately 123,000 Scouting units in the United States and use the Scouting program as part of their youth ministration.[6...

    According to its mission statement, the Boy Scouts of America seeks "to prepare young people to make ethical and moral choices over their lifetimes by instilling in them the values of the Scout Oath and Law".[1] All members are required, as a condition of membership, to promise to uphold and obey both of these pledges. The texts of BSA's Scout Oath and Scout Law for Boy Scouting have remained unchanged since they were approved in 1911,[4] and every member agrees to follow them on their application form.



    Scout Oath
    On my honor I will do my best
    To do my duty to God and my country
    and to obey the Scout Law;
    To help other people at all times;
    To keep myself physically strong,
    mentally awake, and morally straight.



    Scout Law
    A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent.

    Spirituality has been an integral part of the international Scouting movement since its inception. As early as 1908, Scouting founder Robert Baden-Powell wrote in the first Scout handbook that, "No man is much good unless he believes in God and obeys His laws."[5]

    Religious organizations host/sponsor over 60% of the approximately 123,000 Scouting units in the United States and use the Scouting program as part of their youth ministration.[6][7] Officials from various religious organizations—including the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon), Catholic, Methodist, Lutheran, and Presbyterian churches—are included on the BSA National Executive Board, its Advisory Council, and the BSA Religious Relationships Committee.

    In reciting the Scout Oath, Scouts promise to be morally straight and to do their duty to God; the Scout Law holds that a Scout is clean and reverent. As early as 1978, the Boy Scouts of America circulated a memorandum among national executive staff stating that they held it was not appropriate for homosexuals to hold leadership positions in BSA.[8] Similarly, since at least 1985, the BSA has interpreted the Scout Oath and Law as being incompatible with agnosticism and atheism.[9] In both instances, the organization asserted that it was not a new policy to oppose and disfavor atheism, agnosticism and homosexuality; and, in support of that, to deny membership to atheists and agnostics, and to deny leadership roles to and occasionally expel "avowed" homosexual persons — rather, the BSA argued it was just enforcing long-held policies which had never been published or publicly challenged.[8][10]
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  • The_Infidel_Atheist 2012/06/27 07:40:53
    disagree
    The_Infidel_Atheist
    +5
    Hanging around gay people makes you gay; the same way hanging around tall people makes you tall.
  • Herb The_Inf... 2012/07/25 00:40:45
    Herb
    they are christian and private organiztion.
    boy scouts don't allow atheist or gays
    the Supreme Court affirmed the right of the Boy Scouts of America to expel openly gay leaders and members;

    It is because the Boy Scouts is a Christian organization. Part of their Oath is ".....I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law...." If a child doesn't acknowledge he/she is an Atheist, there is no ban against them. Like any non-profit organization, they are allowed to have whatever rules they desire, as long as they fall within certain guidelines, one being "Not for Profit."
  • Link 2012/06/27 06:23:23
    disagree
    Link
    +3
    Seek and destroy the folks of any lifestyle that are pedophiles, child abusers, etc. and leave everyone else, LGBTQ included, the hell alone and STOP discriminating... Teach our young to accept and acknowledge all walks of life... there will be less hatred, less issues and problems in the world...

    And FYI to those against LGBTQ in any way: By showing our young folks from the very beginning of life to treat EVERYONE including LGBTQ EQUALLY will not make them gay... Many young folks today already accept LGBTQ, have no problem with those who are... and guess what? It doesn't automatically make them gay... Sure, some may be... but, knowing about it and accepting it as a part of life didn't make those who are LGBTQ that way... it's the way they were born...
  • Herb Link 2012/07/25 00:41:02
    Herb
    they are christian and private organiztion.
    boy scouts don't allow atheist or gays
    the Supreme Court affirmed the right of the Boy Scouts of America to expel openly gay leaders and members;

    It is because the Boy Scouts is a Christian organization. Part of their Oath is ".....I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law...." If a child doesn't acknowledge he/she is an Atheist, there is no ban against them. Like any non-profit organization, they are allowed to have whatever rules they desire, as long as they fall within certain guidelines, one being "Not for Profit."
  • Link Herb 2012/07/27 11:42:52
    Link
    I'm going to reply once and if I get the customary response, I'll stop at that...

    Is this the very same Christianity that teaches tolerance, acceptance and love thy neighbor and do unto others, and all that good stuff?

    I am against big government, and against so much government interference and regulation and all... I am all for individual freedoms and rights... and if the Boy Scouts wants to refuse to allow LGBTQ into their ranks, that's up to them whether I agree or disagree... personally, I think it's pure BS... But they are a private organization as you say... but, I think our government contributing, backing and supporting such private organizations who refuse equality across the board should be stopped completely... (and yes, the U.S. Government does support and promote such organizations as the Boy Scouts of America... that backing should be pulled immediately if said organization does not support equality as "guaranteed" by the Constitution and Bill of Rights...)...

    But, all of that said, this country supports equality 250% (except in the case of those groups or individuals that it deems not worthy of being treated equal...)
  • Herb Link 2012/07/27 22:53:39
    Herb
    its also the same christianity that teaches love, but also if brother is sinning to tell him.
    love they neighbor is true but you don't have to love sin. yes homosexuality is a sin,
    old testement calls it an abomination before god. the scout have had a long standing pledge with God and purity etc since 1906. they say you cant take the pleadge and then be gay or an atheist cause you don't belive in the pledge. plus 60% of bsa is christian organizations. they it doent meet with their rules. atheist don't believe in god.

    Scout Oath

    On my honor, I will do my best
    To do my duty to God and my country and
    To obey the Scout Law;
    To help other people at all times;
    To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.[33]
    Scout Law

    A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent.[33]
    Scout Motto
    Be Prepared
    Scout Slogan
    Do a good turn daily
    Outdoor Code As an American, I will do my best, to be clean in my outdoor manners, to be careful with fire, to be considerate in the outdoors, and to be conservation minded
  • cm 2012/06/27 05:48:15
    agree
    cm
    +1
    when we have a weak president, people and organization cave at the knees under political correctness. if the scouts want to be gay free that should be their right. if gays feel strongly then they should start their own organization where everyone is welcome.
  • Candace... cm 2012/06/27 20:31:30
    Candace Washington
    +1
    that's what I'm sayin!
  • BlondeAphrodite 2012/06/27 05:47:59
    disagree
    BlondeAphrodite
    +3
    leave adulterers like him out too then
  • Herb BlondeA... 2012/07/25 00:41:12
    Herb
    they are christian and private organiztion.
    boy scouts don't allow atheist or gays
    the Supreme Court affirmed the right of the Boy Scouts of America to expel openly gay leaders and members;

    It is because the Boy Scouts is a Christian organization. Part of their Oath is ".....I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law...." If a child doesn't acknowledge he/she is an Atheist, there is no ban against them. Like any non-profit organization, they are allowed to have whatever rules they desire, as long as they fall within certain guidelines, one being "Not for Profit."
  • BlondeA... Herb 2012/07/25 06:19:03
    BlondeAphrodite
    whatever i dont care i dont want to argue with you... youd only be wasting my time
  • Herb BlondeA... 2012/07/25 19:29:38 (edited)
    Herb
    why they are private and the supreme court has upheld it so they can do what they want.
  • BlondeA... Herb 2012/07/25 20:01:27
    BlondeAphrodite
    whatever rotate
  • Spudnut 2012/06/27 04:58:13
    disagree
    Spudnut
    +2
    Somebody should kick Chuck Norris's ass out of America.
  • GwEN 2012/06/27 04:45:47
    disagree
    GwEN
    +1
    i was to the point of flipping out whenever they did their "pledge" when my brother was in it.... everyone should be allowed, discrimination is wrong
  • mwg0735 2012/06/27 04:39:50
  • elijahin24 mwg0735 2012/06/27 18:22:58
    elijahin24
    +1
    Have you ever uttered an intelligent word in your life? Ever? I mean, one would think that in 54 years, you'd accidentally say SOMETHING worth hearing.
  • Psyblade elijahin24 2012/06/27 23:08:54
    Psyblade
    No. He really hasn't.
  • mwg0735 elijahin24 2012/06/28 02:28:40
  • elijahin24 mwg0735 2012/06/28 02:30:51
    elijahin24
    Ok, that's well and good; but this was a leader within the Boy Scouts pushing this, not the government. Probably because he realized that it won't be long before the Boy Scouts current position on gays, will eventually turn them into the equivalent of the junior KKK, if they don't adapt.
  • mwg0735 elijahin24 2012/06/28 02:37:35
  • elijahin24 mwg0735 2012/06/28 03:03:53
    elijahin24
    That's true. Just like not everyone has adapted to the freedom and equality of black people or women; but those who have not, are viewed as bigoted douchebag dinosaurs. And soon, you will join their ranks.
  • mwg0735 elijahin24 2012/06/28 06:32:17
  • elijahin24 mwg0735 2012/06/28 11:48:29
    elijahin24
    Will you continue to follow the law when the "Phuking" gays are allowed in the Boy Scouts; or will you take your little uniform and go home? The gay-rights movement is a irresistable force. you can refuse to move, but you only make yourself look like a bigoted moron when you do.
  • mwg0735 elijahin24 2012/06/28 15:11:54
  • elijahin24 mwg0735 2012/06/28 15:18:22
    elijahin24
    Well, that's weird, because I look far more like the guy on the left, although we don't wear that kind of cammo anymore. Nice try skippy.
  • mwg0735 elijahin24 2012/06/28 15:33:11
  • elijahin24 mwg0735 2012/06/29 02:55:17
    elijahin24
    Not that it matters, but I'm actually straight. I love the gay community, but alas, the flute simply isn't my instrument.
    My instrument actually looks more like this.
    m 16
  • Habibiti elijahin24 2012/06/28 03:00:37
    Habibiti
    Gays are not perverted, mwg0735!
  • elijahin24 Habibiti 2012/06/28 03:04:23
    elijahin24
    +1
    I think you responded to the wrong person.
  • Habibiti elijahin24 2012/06/28 03:05:41
    Habibiti
    I am sorry. :(
  • jesus christ 2012/06/27 04:24:52
    disagree
    jesus christ
    +4
    as far as im concerned the boy scouts aren't that far from being hitler youth.
  • Herb jesus c... 2012/07/25 02:53:24
    Herb
    they are christian and private organiztion.
    boy scouts don't allow atheist or gays
    the Supreme Court affirmed the right of the Boy Scouts of America to expel openly gay leaders and members;

    It is because the Boy Scouts is a Christian organization. Part of their Oath is ".....I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law...." If a child doesn't acknowledge he/she is an Atheist, there is no ban against them. Like any non-profit organization, they are allowed to have whatever rules they desire, as long as they fall within certain guidelines, one being "Not for Profit."
  • jesus c... Herb 2012/07/25 05:00:29 (edited)
    jesus christ
    +1
    thats ridiculous. they rent government buildings all over the country for a $1 a year. they're also recruiting in public schools and holding meetings in public schools. i've been to them. if they want to be a religious organization then they should get out of the schools for starters. why should i who think jesus is no less ridiculous than zeus or allah have my child recruited by christians in public school. the first time i see an atheist org. getting face time with public school children to sell them on atheism, i'll withdraw my objection.
  • Herb jesus c... 2012/07/25 19:31:26
    Herb
    no the schools cant do that they pay taxes any tax payer can use them and they paid for it. just like if church rented the softball or basesball feilds and make it christians only.
  • jesus c... Herb 2012/07/26 07:07:29
    jesus christ
    i call b.s....if i go to my kids school tomorrow and tell them i want to use the cafeteria saturday night your telling me their going to hand me the keys. i don't think so. and even if they rented the space for after hours meetings. that doesn't change the fact that they are recruiting children in the school during school hours. my kids come home with boyscout pamplets at least once a year. they aren't the only ones. my oldest son came home with a book from a group called fellowship of christian athletes. the day they come home with anything given to them by an atheist organization, i'll withdraw my objection.

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