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Are Same-Sex Marriage Opponents Bigots? Mark Ruffalo Thinks So

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The debate over same-sex marriage may still be raging, but Hollywood is not short on advocates for its legalization.

Among the most vocal supporters of same-sex marriage are the stars of "The Kids Are Alright," a movie released two weeks ago centering around a same-sex couple. Julianne Moore and Annette Bening play a married lesbian couple with two kids, while Mark Ruffalo plays the family's sperm donor.

Ruffalo, who will play The Incredible Hulk in the upcoming "Avengers" movie, has been outspoken about his position on the issue. He said in a recent interview, "There’s a debate going on about gay marriage and whether children can be raised in an ‘unconventional’ family and go on to be sexually healthy, viable, productive people – that’s all used as an argument against gay marriage. It’s so ridiculous to me."

"It’s the last dying, kicking, screaming, caged animal response to a world that is changing," he explained, "a world that’s leaving a lot of those old, bigoted, un-accepting views behind. It’s over.”

Judging by the results of California's Proposition 8 battle in 2008, it's not over yet. But with increased interest in movies and television programs like "The Kids Are Alright" and "Modern Family," which portray same-sex families as healthy and responsible, Ruffalo's argument might hold some weight.

Are Same-Sex Marriage Opponents Bigots?

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  • MkB 2010/07/30 02:12:09 (edited)
    No, I don't support gay marriage.
    MkB
    +40
    In this, I agree with President Obama.

    Obama told MTV he believes marriage is "between a man and a woman" and that he is "not in favor of gay marriage."

    "I've stated my opposition to this. I think it's unnecessary," Obama told MTV. "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage."

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  • kateisgod 2012/11/08 02:58:33
    Yes, they are intolerant.
    kateisgod
    eep :3


    this pleases me
  • Files 2010/08/03 10:33:26
    Yes, they are intolerant.
    Files
    I used to get really worked up about stuff like this but then I realized that time is on my side here - if only people under 30 were voting on prop 8 and everything like it, it would never have passed. On the whole, the younger generation holds views far more friendly to homosexuality - so when the current 65+ voting bloc dies, the laws will change and that will be that. Oh, there might be a few hold-out states, if indeed it turns out to be a state-by-state process. But it's only a matter of time. The fags will win. By the time I want to get married, if indeed I ever do, I'll be able to. Cool.
  • akgold 2010/08/02 23:08:55
    No, I don't support gay marriage.
    akgold
    I have no big problem with civil unions to protect property rights and life decisions. I don't think we need to change the language to assauge someones sense of entitlement. I don't think employers should have to extend benefits to non traditional partners if they so choose. I think if there is gay marriage that plural marriage is at least as deserving of government support. Need I remind you that there is no civil right issue here, every gay in this country HAS the right to marry now. Civil unions and if they, their friends, their employers, family want to call it marriage fine.
  • TommyB 2010/08/02 03:59:04
    No, I don't support gay marriage.
    TommyB
    +1
    I have absolutely nothing against gays. I don't care about nature vs. nurture. For thousands of years, in most civilizations. marriage has been between men and women who become husbands and wives upon getting married. There is no reason to change that to accommodate gays. Civil unions, that grant all the rights and privileges and responsibilities, should be sufficient. You can call yourself a pianist but if you don't play the piano you're not a pianist. Similarly, a man can never be called a wife, and a woman can never be a husband. I don't understand the gay community's demands to redefine marriage. Let them come up with a new name for their union. I refuse to associate with bigots, racists, etc. And, no, I don't feel that those opposed to gay marriage are bigots.
  • 4CommonSense 2010/08/01 21:35:06
    No, I don't support gay marriage.
    4CommonSense
    +1
    Yes to the most part all these people are nice and considerate people and I would love to have anyone of them be my next door neighbor. What I do not like is when the homosexual community wants to take away my RIGHT to disagree with their homosexual lifestyle. I don't want it taught in our schools, I don't like this community calling me all sorts of vile names just because I disagree with what they believe. Let's all get this straight. (no pun intended) Homosexuality is NOT a right. It is a lifestyle. They CAN'T prove from a scientific point of view that they are born homosexual. This is just a fact. Don't you think by now that if there were any scientific proof, that they would shout it from the highest mountain or at least have it printed on the front page of every news paper? So why not? It's because they have NO PROOF. This is one of the biggest scams put on the American people ever. Please. Give me the name of the homosexual gene that makes you homosexual at birth. I would L O V E to hear it's name.
  • K 4Common... 2010/11/03 02:29:44
    K
    Maybe it is not a gene, all I know is I didnt choose to be gay, I'm not sure if I was born gay or very early in life something happened and it just came about. But I can remember being about 4 and knowing that I wanted to be with a woman. I agree, there is no proof of a homosexual gene, it really doesnt matter if its genetics or not, I would not have chosen this in a million years. I dont think there is any gay person who would choose this life, not to say I dont love my life..I am very happy with my partner and have nothing but support, but its by no means an easy existance.

    As for being taught in schools, I'm not sure completely keeping it silent is the right way to go. Regardless of how you feel about homosexuality, its a part of everyday life for alot of people. Children are going to have to become familiar with sexual orientations that are different from their own. Children also need to know that it is ok to be gay. Homosexual education, whether you want it or not, is needed in today's society.
  • 4Common... K 2010/11/03 04:54:14
    4CommonSense
    How many times are you going to tell us this same old lie. "I DIDN'T CHOOSE TO BE GAY." That is such a lame excuse. "IT JUST CAME ABOUT." That is a good one also. Yes they do and I will tell you why. The desire to have a sexual relation with the same sex is so overwhelming that you will do and sacrifice anything to be in a same sex relation. It is like an addiction.

    "Children are going to have to become familiar with sexual orientations that are different from their own." How absorbed. That is why we have parents and their homes to deal with sexual issues. But you want to bring it into the classroom. Homosexual Education, whether you want it or not, will NEVER be needed in today's society.

    My son is a teacher in Northern CA. He is married and has two children. He very much opposed to homosexuality being taught to children in any form. If you get your way. You will take away his religious and moral right NOT to teach your immoral behaviour. Are you saying that you will force him to teach homosexuality in his classroom?
  • K 4Common... 2010/11/03 05:44:02
    K
    No, I dont wish to force anything on anyone. Im not sure I agree with it being taught in schools, I agree that the home is the best place to explain things like that. I am sorry if I made it sound like I wanted it in a classroom. I dont. But you talk as if I'm a harsh activist. I absolutely do not believe in activism of any kind. All I was saying was that homosexuality exists in our world. If you dont explain it to your kids, however you see fit, they are never going to understand. Regardless of your opinion, children will have to associate with someone who is gay at many points in their lives. Im not trying to "get my way". All I am saying is that if you shelter your kids from something, they are going to be clueless in the real world, regarless of what it is. I'm not trying to change your opinion of homosexuality. Im just saying that this is the real world.

    Also, I dont understand what you mean by "The desire to have a sexual relation with the same sex is so overwhelming that you will do and sacrifice anything to be in a same sex relation. It is like an addiction." Is this your idea of how people "become gay"? Because they desire another person of the same sex? If thats your position then, yeah, I agree. Much the same as a heterosexual person desires a person of the opposi...
    No, I dont wish to force anything on anyone. Im not sure I agree with it being taught in schools, I agree that the home is the best place to explain things like that. I am sorry if I made it sound like I wanted it in a classroom. I dont. But you talk as if I'm a harsh activist. I absolutely do not believe in activism of any kind. All I was saying was that homosexuality exists in our world. If you dont explain it to your kids, however you see fit, they are never going to understand. Regardless of your opinion, children will have to associate with someone who is gay at many points in their lives. Im not trying to "get my way". All I am saying is that if you shelter your kids from something, they are going to be clueless in the real world, regarless of what it is. I'm not trying to change your opinion of homosexuality. Im just saying that this is the real world.

    Also, I dont understand what you mean by "The desire to have a sexual relation with the same sex is so overwhelming that you will do and sacrifice anything to be in a same sex relation. It is like an addiction." Is this your idea of how people "become gay"? Because they desire another person of the same sex? If thats your position then, yeah, I agree. Much the same as a heterosexual person desires a person of the opposite sex. All Im saying is that I have never had any desire to be with a man. I have always had physical and emotional attraction to women. Not because I wanted to, thats just what I have always had. Im not saying I was born gay, I have no idea how sexual orientation "starts" or "happens". I just know that I am ridiculed for something that I wish I didnt feel. I cant switch it...or I would. I dont wish to change your opinion about a homosexual lifestyle. If you disagree with it then that is completely your choice to make, and if thats what you see fit to teach your children, that is also your choice. Even I have reservations when it comes to some of the crap gay rights activists try to feed the public. And dont even get me started on gay pride parades, they are ridiculous. But I will say that being gay really is not something that I chose, I agree with alot of what you have said, but I hope you respect some of what I have said also.
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  • 4Common... K 2010/11/03 07:15:49 (edited)
    4CommonSense
    +1
    I do appreciate your candor and honesty. Thank you for no insults or name calling. If you are not aware. The homosexual community is already trying to get a program into schools across the country. It is called "GLSEN." It is a kit that "includes detailed strategies to instruct teachers and students on how to create a school environment more accepting of homosexual students and to teach other students their "moral" lifestyle as a healthy alternative to sexual behaviour." This booklet also "teaches students how to get involved in school policy and how to initiate change to promote the homosexual agenda in "everyday school life." Let's say that my son is told by his administrator that his school is introducing a new program called "GLESEN" and that every teacher will abide by these new guidelines and teach the new program. Down through history, children have had to get along with others. I grew up in a family of 4 boys. When we got into arguments one of my parents would say: "can't you just get along." Children have been doing this for years. My wife was a 5th. grade teacher for 14 years. I know that it is partly the teachers responsibility to watch for bullying and other children name calling or taking advantage of other children. Then it is the parents responsibilit...



    I do appreciate your candor and honesty. Thank you for no insults or name calling. If you are not aware. The homosexual community is already trying to get a program into schools across the country. It is called "GLSEN." It is a kit that "includes detailed strategies to instruct teachers and students on how to create a school environment more accepting of homosexual students and to teach other students their "moral" lifestyle as a healthy alternative to sexual behaviour." This booklet also "teaches students how to get involved in school policy and how to initiate change to promote the homosexual agenda in "everyday school life." Let's say that my son is told by his administrator that his school is introducing a new program called "GLESEN" and that every teacher will abide by these new guidelines and teach the new program. Down through history, children have had to get along with others. I grew up in a family of 4 boys. When we got into arguments one of my parents would say: "can't you just get along." Children have been doing this for years. My wife was a 5th. grade teacher for 14 years. I know that it is partly the teachers responsibility to watch for bullying and other children name calling or taking advantage of other children. Then it is the parents responsibility to reinforce those values at home. That's how I was raised and that is how my wife and I raised our kids.

    You have now crossed over into my religious rights and freedom. My son will have a religious right NOT to teach this program, because the program will conflict with his Biblical religious rights. If he doesn't teach this program, should he get fired?

    I hear what you are saying about our children should get along and tolerate all other children, regardless of any background, and yes even a homosexual child. You say that you can't switch. We can switch anything if we want. Now if you are talking abo...
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  • K 4Common... 2010/11/03 17:47:44
    K
    Oh no I was not aware of that. I live in Saskatchewan, Canada and there is no such talk of a program like this up here. I really cant say that I'm surprised about it but I wouldnt say that I agree that this way of educating children about homosexuality is the right path. I agree kids need to be talked to about sexual education in school, but more in the way of the SEX ED of old...puberty, contraceptives, safe sex and those types of things. I think that if a problem arises pertaining to homosexuality in individual situations at school, then it needs to be dealt with privately between teachers, parents and involved students.

    No I do not by any means think your son should be fired for refusing to abide by the program. Does your son teach at a religious school? Because if he does I'm very surprised that a school like that would even begin to think about a program of this nature. Obviously I do not feel the same as you do about religion. I have nothing against a strong faith in a person though. I was born with the right to choose my faith and so were you. I would never hold religion against anyone, even if it causes us to disagree.

    Im not saying I cant switch and be in a relationship with a man..anyone could switch really, you could choose to live with a man, or an alien for th...

    Oh no I was not aware of that. I live in Saskatchewan, Canada and there is no such talk of a program like this up here. I really cant say that I'm surprised about it but I wouldnt say that I agree that this way of educating children about homosexuality is the right path. I agree kids need to be talked to about sexual education in school, but more in the way of the SEX ED of old...puberty, contraceptives, safe sex and those types of things. I think that if a problem arises pertaining to homosexuality in individual situations at school, then it needs to be dealt with privately between teachers, parents and involved students.

    No I do not by any means think your son should be fired for refusing to abide by the program. Does your son teach at a religious school? Because if he does I'm very surprised that a school like that would even begin to think about a program of this nature. Obviously I do not feel the same as you do about religion. I have nothing against a strong faith in a person though. I was born with the right to choose my faith and so were you. I would never hold religion against anyone, even if it causes us to disagree.

    Im not saying I cant switch and be in a relationship with a man..anyone could switch really, you could choose to live with a man, or an alien for that matter. Im not saying that the physical act of "sex" is not a choice..yes..I choose to sleep with my girlfriend every night. Im saying that I do not choose to feel this way, emotionally. I could never connect emotionally with a man. I could live with him and have sex with him yes, but I am deeply in love with a woman. If it is a sin for me to continue living my life with another woman then so be it. But I wont give that all up and "make due" with a man regardless of what anyone says. I understand you disagree with that, but I hope that maybe I have cleared up what homosexual people mean when they say it is not a choice. We dont mean the physical act of sex, it is the attraction and connection to the same sex that we dont choose.

    PS. your paragraph stopped right in the middle of a word so if you had more to say after "Now if you are talking abo..." put it into your next reply so that I can see what you said :) Thanks
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  • 4Common... K 2010/11/03 20:21:40
    4CommonSense
    +1
    Your Country doesn't need to have this program, because it just does away with freedom of speech. Any radio broadcast that says anything against homosexuality will have their license taken away from them. Freedom of Speech. Yea, right.

    "SAFE SEX." Why in God's name do you want to encourage sex between children that don't know the first thing about having a family? Children having children. That is why we have over 2 Million abortions a year. Are you serious?

    My son teaches in a public school. It is clear that all Private schools would not even consider this program. You still did not answer my question. What should he do? For him their is only one decision. His religious convictions and his job would be at stake. Does he NOT comply and loose his job? Is the homosexual community willing to force my son out of his job?
  • K 4Common... 2010/11/03 23:29:14
    K
    First of all, please do not put down my country. There are many things I could bring up about the U.S. and I dont because I have respect for your opinions and I dont feel like this discussion has anything to do with my nationality or yours. Perhaps if there were more tolerance regarding other forms of religion in the U.S... public school systems would not need to put programs in place such as this one. Thats not to say the programs are the right way to go, but education rids ignorance.

    No, I disagree with encouraging sex between teenagers. But I'm also a realist, would you rather teach them abstinence, abstinence, abstinence only to have them do it anyways and unsafely, or teach the abstinence but also make sure that they know that if they are not going to follow what youre saying, then there are contraceptive options available to them.. I'm not saying I agree with sex in highschool, I'm only saying it happens very, VERY often and I dont think its a terrible idea to say. "I would rather you not, but if youre going to, please be smart." If you disagree thats fine, but thats my position.

    Again, you are lumping every homosexual person with activists. Perhaps if your son disagrees with what he is being required to teach in a public school system, he would be more comfortable i...
    First of all, please do not put down my country. There are many things I could bring up about the U.S. and I dont because I have respect for your opinions and I dont feel like this discussion has anything to do with my nationality or yours. Perhaps if there were more tolerance regarding other forms of religion in the U.S... public school systems would not need to put programs in place such as this one. Thats not to say the programs are the right way to go, but education rids ignorance.

    No, I disagree with encouraging sex between teenagers. But I'm also a realist, would you rather teach them abstinence, abstinence, abstinence only to have them do it anyways and unsafely, or teach the abstinence but also make sure that they know that if they are not going to follow what youre saying, then there are contraceptive options available to them.. I'm not saying I agree with sex in highschool, I'm only saying it happens very, VERY often and I dont think its a terrible idea to say. "I would rather you not, but if youre going to, please be smart." If you disagree thats fine, but thats my position.

    Again, you are lumping every homosexual person with activists. Perhaps if your son disagrees with what he is being required to teach in a public school system, he would be more comfortable in a Private school. There are plenty of subjects that teachers may have issues teaching. Your son is not being forced out of his job by homosexuals. It is his choice whether or not he would like to remain teaching and deal with the program. He has the choice whether he wants to quit public school and go to private. You cant very well say he is being forced out of his job. He is refusing to do his job up to the standards that the school system now requires. As far as that is concerned he either teaches the new program or he finds another job elsewhere, either way it is his choice to stay or leave. No one is forcing anything on him.
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  • 4Common... K 2010/11/04 05:39:34 (edited)
    4CommonSense
    +1
    Isn't it your side that is CRYING. Violation of Church and State. Not wanting God or Jesus Christ in anything that is to do with Public Schools? Now you are saying "if there were more tolerance regarding other forms of religion in the U.S.. . . public school systems would not need to put programs in place. . "

    You are so right. LEAVE OUT ALL RELIGION AND ANY FORM OF HOMOSEXUALITY BEHAVIOUR. Just teach our youth the basics in Education. That is why they are their.

    Haven't you heard of S.T.D. Unprotected or not. There is still a chance that they could transfer a S.T.D. or get pregnant. So it's OK, just tell them. If you are going to have sex just do it SAFE? Are you really kidding me? You are willing to put at risk for LIFE a teenagers life, just so these teens can have sex?

    Who bombed Pearl Harbor? Was it not Japan? Were all Japaneese people for the invasion? No. There were many who loved this country. It was those who had power and control of the masses. It is the ones who are organized and have power and control of the homosexual agenda that is speaking for everyone else. That in fact may make you look bad, but that is the fact.

    So is what you are saying. If my son dosen't like the programs that he is having to teach these students. That he needs to find somewhere els...
    Isn't it your side that is CRYING. Violation of Church and State. Not wanting God or Jesus Christ in anything that is to do with Public Schools? Now you are saying "if there were more tolerance regarding other forms of religion in the U.S.. . . public school systems would not need to put programs in place. . "

    You are so right. LEAVE OUT ALL RELIGION AND ANY FORM OF HOMOSEXUALITY BEHAVIOUR. Just teach our youth the basics in Education. That is why they are their.

    Haven't you heard of S.T.D. Unprotected or not. There is still a chance that they could transfer a S.T.D. or get pregnant. So it's OK, just tell them. If you are going to have sex just do it SAFE? Are you really kidding me? You are willing to put at risk for LIFE a teenagers life, just so these teens can have sex?

    Who bombed Pearl Harbor? Was it not Japan? Were all Japaneese people for the invasion? No. There were many who loved this country. It was those who had power and control of the masses. It is the ones who are organized and have power and control of the homosexual agenda that is speaking for everyone else. That in fact may make you look bad, but that is the fact.

    So is what you are saying. If my son dosen't like the programs that he is having to teach these students. That he needs to find somewhere else to teach? My son has a constitutional right not to teach this homosexual program. The freedom of religion and not the freedom from religion. You have this so backwards. First of all. This is clearly a homosexual indoctrination program. It has NOTHING to do with the Education of the mind. His religious prohibits him from teaching this program. The school will be under a law suit if they even attempts to force him to teach this immoral program. It's like forcing a Dr. to perform an abortion when his religious convictions to do so.
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  • K 4Common... 2010/11/04 06:01:58
    K
    So what you're saying, then, is that, my not being involved in the "homosexual agenda" makes me look bad? You know, I was extremely respectful to you and your "religious agenda" and you have done nothing but twist my words into something completely different. Im trying to have an intelligent conversation with you and maybe learn something about differing opinions in politics and religion and all you have done is throw my country, my relationship, my opinions, and my education in my face. At first I thought we could have civilized debate and conversation regarding our differences but now I'm not sure we can, you refuse to budge and understand anything that anyone else has to say.

    PS if your son doesnt like what he has to teach, he needs another job. He has a constitutional right not to teach it, and if he doesnt fulfill his duties on the job, then he should be terminated.

    Also, you practice freedom OF religion. Many people have the constitutional right to practice freedom FROM religion. Thats what public school is for. Maybe your son should get a job at a Catholic school..if not, then he should suck it up and teach what he is supposed to teach. His constitutional right stands...seek employment elsewhere if he doesnt like it. It seems to me he is just picking a fight for the sake of fighting. There are plenty of places that would be happy to have him teach nothing but reading, writing, arithmetic...and of course, religious studies.
  • GINGERBREAD 2010/08/01 01:50:51
    Yes, they are intolerant.
    GINGERBREAD
    This is like one of those question on when was the last time you beat your wife? Why does anyone even give credense to questions like this? This is a "red herring" that is being dragged into the political discussion. The object of any discussion is how to get rid of this communist we have in the WH? Anything else is just "frou frou". Who gives a good rats ass who marries who? In the USA, today, you can marry anyone or anything. So, why even bring up something that is already a fact. I defy anyone to tell me that there is anywhere in the USA, that anyone cannot marry anyone or anything today. So please, we have a bigger fish to fry, than trying to talk this to ad infenitum. There will be people that don't wqant it, there will be people that are for it, and most of the people, about 90% of the population just don't give a damned about it.
  • 4Common... GINGERB... 2010/11/04 06:41:42
    4CommonSense
    +1
    F.Y.I. The moral fiber of our society is the backbone of our society. You take away the moral values from our society. Then it becomes "whatever feels good, do it." Everyone becomes an island unto himself. What becomes right is within each mans own eyes. Whatever perverted act or habit you want to do. No one has a right to stop you or to tell you it's wrong. Where does it end? We will end up with NO or very few "Civil Laws." I can't even imagine a country like that. So again. "Does it matter who marries who?" Absolutely.
  • GINGERB... 4Common... 2010/11/04 10:40:31
    GINGERBREAD
    You tell me anyone in this country that has been punished for marrying anything? When the woman in Florida married a dolphin, and no one did anything about it, that was the last nail.
  • rightside 2010/07/31 16:27:55
    No, I don't support gay marriage.
    rightside
    Next it will be made legal to have sex with a child and then to have many spouses and then to marry your dog.
    Once decay starts, it just keeps going.
  • 4Common... rightside 2010/08/01 21:50:05
    4CommonSense
    +1
    Your right on. Since Congress NEVER defined the word sexuality in the hate crimes bill, it leaves open any perverted type of sexual lifestyle know to man or woman. We use to be a nation of morals and standards. Some are trying to remove all sense of morals and to do away with all standards. Wrong is right and right is wrong. God help us.
  • rightside 4Common... 2010/08/01 22:47:10
    rightside
    +1
    If only people could see this. But, its being forced in our faces, and we are hateful if we don't accept.
  • 4Common... rightside 2010/08/02 11:13:22
    4CommonSense
    +2
    The sad part is that if we disagree with their immoral lifestyle, we are called names and are treated as if we have no right to our opinion. The homosexual community wants to shut down our free speech. It is they who are intolerant and bigots.
  • rightside 4Common... 2010/08/02 18:21:47
    rightside
    +1
    Yup. I don't agree with their lifestyle and I will not support it. Much like bama, I don't agree with him, so I'm a racist.
    I have friends that I disagree with and we are still friends. Amazing how intolerant they are.
  • 4Common... rightside 2010/08/03 05:07:47
    4CommonSense
    +1
    Intolerant doesn't even scratch the surface. They not only will call us vile names but what to take away our Free Speech to even oppose them. In the end, the homosexual community wants you and I to accept their immoral lifestyle as normal. Anyone who opposes or speaks out against their perverted immoral lifestyle will be put in jail for hate speech. Mark my words.
  • rightside 4Common... 2010/08/03 17:59:22
    rightside
    +1
    This has happened elsewhere. I will not be silent.
  • 4Common... 4Common... 2010/11/03 07:34:58
    4CommonSense
    +1
    Hold on to you seat. You need to google G.L.S.E.N. This is a program that the homosexual community is trying to get into our schools. The are doing in under the banner of "tolerance." I say, that these and other values and principles should be taught at home and not the responsibility of the school. These are NOT State children. If they are, then the State can pay for their room and board while I raise them. If not, then BUTT OUT OF MY FAMILY.
  • PatrioticSap 2010/07/31 14:54:16
    No, I don't support gay marriage.
    PatrioticSap
    +3
    Hatred, intolerance and bigotry have nothing to do with upholding the standard of marriage which has been historically the norm. I see hubris and intolerance on the part of people who try to strong arm same sex marriage when the American people overwhelmingly say, "no!"
  • 4Common... Patriot... 2010/11/04 06:43:06
    4CommonSense
    +1
    Thank you for your post.
  • Papillon 2010/07/31 14:27:44
    No, I don't support gay marriage.
    Papillon
    +2
    Homosexuality is a mental disorder.



    A DISORDER.



    As in it's not the right way to be. Marriage? MARRIAGE????



    One of the most sacred of all commitments made by a man and a woman is now being attacked by homos and lesbians in a "I should have a turn too" mentality. They come together in rallies wearing bizarre costumes and proclaiming their sickness to be a choice. Pandering politicos support their premise, thinking of votes for themselves. That is why this abomination even exists.



    Out of the closet? Fine! Now get some help! Marriage for homos and lesbians is not an oracle of the future and a changing 'new' world; it's the result of the ongoing breakdown of our society and a harbinger of the dark future if this kind of thing is allowed to progress.



    Not cool or attractive in the slightest!
  • 4Common... Papillon 2010/08/01 21:52:10
    4CommonSense
    This is very disgusting.
  • Papillon 4Common... 2010/08/02 11:54:37 (edited)
    Papillon
    I know. And I am getting the help I need for MY problems, none of which includes being a 'mo.



    If my position disgusts you, think of how yours disgusts me! And you want to laud the practice of disgusting, amoral sexual acts and promote it world wide. Not only that; you want everyone to embrace homosexuality as if it's 'just another choice'. To me, THAT is disgusting. But, each to his own said the old lady as she kissed the cow's ass.



    Update:



    I just read your profile. I found that other than your stand on gays, we think very similarly. You feel as you do about gays; I feel as I do. If homos want to have civil unions for the purpose of asset sharing at the death of one of the parties, and if they can derive all the legal benefits therefrom, and have their 'wedding' ceremonies amongst themselves and their friends (much like traditional marriage) then why all this in your face hooplah? I suspect it is for the mainstreaming of homosexuality, to which I am vehemently opposed.
  • 4Common... Papillon 2010/08/03 05:14:37
    4CommonSense
    I think we crossed wires somewhere. I am opposed to the homosexual lifestyle. I actually have a basis for my belief. I was a Pastor for over 12 years back in the 70's. I grew up in the 60's. Are we on the same page?
  • Papillon 4Common... 2010/08/03 12:16:30 (edited)
    Papillon
    Well, your answer to me indicated that you felt that I was disgusting and sick for my views, yet reading most of your posts, I find that we agree.

    You see, I get very angry about what is going on with all of this PC nonsense trying to disguise it all. Perhaps you found my answer over the top; I do that intentionally to piss of the leftists. They all hate me! That means I'm doing the job.

    I think that sometimes people who don't know me read things that I write farsically and take my words at face value. Though I abhor the homo lifestyle, I don't hate them for being that way; I don't think they can help it. It's the almost militant way they come at straight people demanding to not only be accepted but embraced for their lifestyle. And if one doesn't, they are 'bigots', 'racists', 'mean spirited and hurtful RWNJs, et al. Those people 'stick in my craw', so I like to fight back by saying things that affect the same result in them.

    Did you catch the update to the post? Your page indicates a lot of things that we are in agreement on. I think we crossed wires too. Let's be friends.
  • 4Common... Papillon 2010/08/04 06:56:56
    4CommonSense
    I think that we can be great friends. We do agree. What bothers me about the homosexual lifestyle is that they really want is to take away my voice of opposition. They are teaching their immoral lifestyle in our public schools and brain-washing our children. I have come to believe that their lifestyle is a CHOICE and that they are NOT born homosexual. They can't produce any scientific proof of the contrary. In the history of our country, we have never made a lifestyle a Constitutional Right.

    When I was in the Corp. during the 60's. I can't even imagine being in a engagement with the enemy and having some other Marine hit on me. Let's just say this. They get rid of them during boot. No military warrior needs that type of disgusting problem.
  • Papillon 4Common... 2010/08/04 13:32:01 (edited)
    Papillon
    Amen to that! And thanks for the add!
  • 4Common... Papillon 2010/08/04 16:02:45
    4CommonSense
    +1
    We may be miles apart in geographical location but we are for certain like minded when it comes to this issue. Keep up the good fight.
  • Papillon 4Common... 2010/08/04 17:17:46
    Papillon
    10/4, 4!
  • 4Common... Papillon 2010/11/04 06:11:27
    4CommonSense
    We disagree again. Marriage is only between a man and a women. That is it. Let's agree on one thing. You have core beliefs and so do I. My core beliefs are based on the Word of God. Romans 1:26-29 tells me that homosexuality is a sin (wrong). I believe that God sent His son Jesus Christ to earth to save it and not to condemn it. The jewish people thought He was here to set up His Kingdom. He was here to die on the cross for the sin's of all mankind. God says that "He is the way the truth and the life, NO one comes to the Father except through Him (Jesus Christ). He also said that "God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes on Him (Jesus Christ) WILL HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE. So you see. The Bible tells me Why He came, Why He died, What He wants from me and the best part of all is that He gives me a CHOICE to receive Him as Lord of my life or reject His purpose for my life. That is my core belief.

    This is why I will never accept the homosexual lifestyle. I will however love the homosexual. If you want to practice your lifestyle in the privacy of your own home. That is your choice. Please don't force our children to accept the homosexual lifestyle as normal and a moral alternative lifestyle.
  • Papillon 4Common... 2010/11/04 11:39:01
    Papillon
    That is your perogative and your choice. Your last paragraph seems to indicate that you think I am in FAVOR of the homo lifestyle, when in actually it is revolting to me. Are you sure you're answering the right post?
  • 4Common... Papillon 2010/11/04 17:17:31
    4CommonSense
    +1
    My bad. I meant "if THEY want to practice...Sorry. The homosexual community has become violent and vial when it comes to those who oppose their immoral lifestyle. Where is their tolerance? They are the ones who are pushing for homosexual programs to be taught in our schools. Since when are we going to allow an immoral sexual lifestyle to be taught to our grade school children? Never. They can call me every vile disgusting name in the book. I will never allow them to threaten me with their violance.

    This is to all the homosexual organizations. "YOU HAD BETTER STAY AWAY FROM MY CHILDREN AND AWAY FROM MY CHILDRENS SCHOOLS." This is America and the majority of the people have spoken. Go back into your closet where you belong.
  • Papillon 4Common... 2010/11/05 10:06:26
    Papillon
    Ditto! Well said.
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