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L.A. Times 2012/12/21 21:09:26
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In an angry and defiant news conference, National Rifle Assn. Chief Executive Wayne LaPierre on Friday forcefully rejected calls to clamp down on guns in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., school massacre, arguing instead for a massive deployment of armed guards to every school.

LaPierre pledged that the NRA would spearhead such an endeavor, appointing former Arkansas Rep. Asa Hutchinson to lead an effort to develop a cutting-edge model school security plan and a program to train volunteers who would be dispatched to campuses around the country.

In the meantime, he called on Congress to immediately appropriate funding to pay for police officers in every school "to make sure that blanket safety is in place when our kids return to school in January."

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  • Big Al 2013/07/04 21:48:29
    Yes
    Big Al
    Duh???? A whole lot better than the loony idiotic gun-grabbers agenda...disarm everyone so they're sitting ducks...how much stupider can you get????

    disarmed people are like sitting ducks
  • Lord of None~PWCM~JLA 2013/07/04 19:44:55
    Yes
    Lord of None~PWCM~JLA
    never gonna happen because it makes sense.....
  • John DeLellis 2013/02/27 00:04:35
    Yes
    John DeLellis
    Absolutely ... Instead though , we absolutely should have volunteer teachers with training in such areas as weapons management with combat readiness . If we , with practical common sense , would take these steps , there would NEVER, be another crime and there would never be another President like Barack Obama that take such advantage of the suffering children and their parents. That fraud nut-cake president been trying to render the American people , helpless, for 4 years and after the school shooting --- with his phony tears, saw the biggest opportunity to do so. How does this make sense??? Nut cake enters school and kills 26 children---- " LET'S TAKE AWAY ALL THE PROTECTION FOR GOOD LAW- ABIDING PEOPLE WHO ARE LICENCED TO PROTECT THEMSELVES , THEIR FAMILY AND THEIR NEIGHBORS -- SO AS TO LEAVE THEMSELVES HELPLESS AND SITTING DUCKS FOR THESE MURDERERS TO KILL US.. OUR PRESIDENT DREAMS OF THE DAY THAT HE CAN GIVE SUPREME ORDERS TO HIS PEOPLE WITHOUT THEM SAYING ,NO!!! WE WOULD NOW HAVE A TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT!!! HAIL HITLER!!!
  • Mikayla Simons 2013/02/19 21:48:12
    No
    Mikayla Simons
    no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
  • phil.ol... Mikayla... 2013/04/03 00:28:10
    phil.olding.3
    +1
    So you would rather that we have NOTHING, instead of SOMETHING, preventing anyone, with any weapon, from walking into any school, and slaughtering children?

    You honestly believe that the gun in my safe is a bigger societal problem than dead kids?

    You really are one more useful idiot.
  • jonhy 2013/02/09 14:42:52
    No
    jonhy
    +2
    Armed guards at schools would only further the gun problem that had already gone to far. it's better if they just forget the NRA an get harder on gUN laws
  • phil.ol... jonhy 2013/04/03 00:28:17
    phil.olding.3
    So you would rather that we have NOTHING, instead of SOMETHING, preventing anyone, with any weapon, from walking into any school, and slaughtering children?

    You honestly believe that the gun in my safe is a bigger societal problem than dead kids?

    You really are one more useful idiot.
  • jonhy phil.ol... 2014/01/15 14:08:22
    jonhy
    The gun in your safe is the problem what's stopping people from taking those guns and going out and killing kids? And how is adding more guns going to help at all would that not just make for more violence. people like you who love there guns so much they would rather risk more deaths then give them up
  • phil.ol... jonhy 2014/03/24 10:24:10
    phil.olding.3
    The safe is clearly stopping people from taking those guns and killing kids.

    Oh, and the armed person in front of it.

    Adding more guns is the only way anyone has ever solved violence. When there's a mass shooting, the first people called are people with guns who come ready to stop it. That is the only solution to the problem.

    Why have those people occupied with other tasks?

    You don't seem to get it - you're a useful idiot. Politicians already know that armed guards are the only thing that MIGHT prevent more gun deaths in these so-called "gun-free zones".

    Our president is protected by guns.
    Our president's family is protected by guns.
    Our senators are protected by guns.
    Our statesmen are protected by guns.
    Our money is protected by guns.
    Our gold is protected by guns.
    Our sports stadiums are protected by guns.
    Our airports are protected by guns.
    Our children are protected by words on paper (laws), words on signs (gun-free zones), and good intentions.

    How do you not see a problem here? The politicians are purposely letting kids die so they can take power (weapons) from people.
  • jonhy phil.ol... 2014/03/27 22:16:05 (edited)
    jonhy
    You know what, you make a lot of good points. Your opinion is valid guns could help and the fact that everywhere else is protected by guns is reason enough to give some to good people who will protect kids at school. But until you've seen first hand the pain an hardship that having guns around let a lone using them in front of kids, the effect it can have and how it can change a child then you should rethink those points
  • phil.ol... jonhy 2014/04/02 03:46:45
    phil.olding.3
    So you think that having nothing to protect children is better than having something to protect children?

    I've been to Iraq and Afghanistan. The children still alive get along just fine.
  • Cora 2013/01/16 23:19:18
    Yes
    Cora
    Yes and No because some of those security guards let that get to their heads. Some just do not know how to be humble of what their job is supoose to be, serve and protect.
    Some have cocky attitude, and have their noses up in the air as if to say, I'M in charge. Maybe I should have said NO.
  • Katherine 2013/01/14 21:11:02
    Yes
    Katherine
    Better than making them sitting ducks.
  • MsDianna 2013/01/14 15:16:00
    Yes
    MsDianna
    yes I believe so. parents have got to be parents and not friends. parents have to know what their children are doing. guns just don't appear out of no where. I'd feel better if my grandson was going to a large school for there to be armed guards at the doors. in smaller schools it will probably come down to principals and some teachers being armed. God help us!
  • Skar 2013/01/14 07:58:12
    Yes
    Skar
    +2
    Though gun education and gun safety are needed even more.
  • Dave 007 2013/01/13 14:49:05
    No
    Dave 007
    Overreaction.
  • phil.ol... Dave 007 2013/02/07 03:51:40
    phil.olding.3
    A clear threat to the well-being of our children is not an overreaction.

    Armed security is providing SOME security for our children. No security is 100% secure, but having no security is RETARDED!
  • Koatz 2013/01/10 16:56:09
    No
    Koatz
    +1
    Ridiculous proposal and an overreaction. We haven't reached that point, yet.
  • Patrick... Koatz 2013/01/13 15:49:24
    Patrick Henry~PWCM~JL
    +2
    Well, I have recently gone from SVU detective to campus officer at the local college campus and they LOVE us being there. Students, staff and faculty. How can protecting students be an overreaction? I just wish that those that had a CHL didn't have to leave their handguns in the car...
  • Koatz Patrick... 2013/01/13 16:24:16 (edited)
    Koatz
    Security on college-campuses is reasonable and not extraordinary because the number of students-faculty-teachers, etc.. require it. And, for the most part, security is not 'felt' and doesn't impede the learning process on college campuses.

    I attended a university that had over 25K-students, but security was rarely felt or seen unless circumstances demanded it. Also, keep in mind that people who have reached that level of education are sophisticated enough to understand that having security does not necessarily mean that being at school is a dangerous place. This may be an issue with toddlers and adolescents.

    If security at elementary, middle, and high school levels can be designed so that impressionable students do not have their education interrupted nor unduly influenced, it can do no harm to have security at the school on a full-time basis (better safe than sorry, in my opinion).

    However, keep in mind that we live in a country founded on the principle that the State can become the quintessential violator of human rights. (A palpable tension should always exist between the State - which has a penchant for taking more and more Rights from its subjects - and armed-citizens, who should trust-but-verify every act and utterance of it.) We should not want our children to grow up in a semi police-state, and placing guards in schools is an unmistakable step in that direction.

    Coming soon to America
  • Patrick... Koatz 2013/01/13 16:55:46
  • Koatz Patrick... 2013/01/13 17:47:26
    Koatz
    I didn't read your profile before responding.
  • Patrick... Koatz 2013/01/13 18:11:08 (edited)
    Patrick Henry~PWCM~JL
    Why do you think I took the handle Patrick Henry?!?! Seems to me that someone needs a time out... Hey, check out Sister Jean and her question on America being the police of the world. Very interesting!
  • cheryl Patrick... 2013/01/20 00:50:03
    cheryl
    don,t they always have security on collage campus?didnt they at virginia tech?
  • Patrick... cheryl 2013/01/20 01:07:50
    Patrick Henry~PWCM~JL
    I used to bean SVU detective-this month I moved over and took a position as a college police officer. There are only so many sexually abused children one can smile at and tell that things will be better... Virginia Tech,no idea.
  • phil.ol... cheryl 2013/02/07 03:52:33
    phil.olding.3
    Armed security is providing SOME security for our children. No security is 100% secure, but having no security is RETARDED!
  • phil.ol... Koatz 2013/02/07 03:51:58
    phil.olding.3
    A clear threat to the well-being of our children is not an overreaction.

    Armed security is providing SOME security for our children. No security is 100% secure, but having no security is RETARDED!
  • JefferyMarcum 2013/01/08 18:00:00
    No
    JefferyMarcum
    TRAINED guards are good. ARMED guards, not so much. If a kid is better at fighting than the guard, then weapons are simply going to get guards hurt.
  • phil.ol... Jeffery... 2013/02/07 03:53:03
    phil.olding.3
    Of course armed guards will be trained! That's absurd!
  • max reilly 2013/01/06 21:22:26
    Yes
    max reilly
    +1
    Let me paraphrase Jeff Cooper and say that good men will do good things with rifles, and bad men will do bad men with rifles, and since good men far outnumber bad men, bad men can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles.

    I have had a police officer at my school for the last five years. They have all been armed. I have felt safe, and the only people who do not feel safe have been the people who would willingly commit crimes upon the premises. Coincidence? I think not.
  • TblR 2013/01/06 01:46:20
    No
    TblR
    To me it seems like trying to put out a fire with more fire. Trying to stop violence with more violence, even if it's "controlled violence", doesn't seem like a permanent solution. If a kid really wants to kill another kid, he will find a way to do it, (if not with a gun, with something else). I think putting in programs to help relieve the violent intentions of students may prove more effective. Stop the problem before it happens.
  • Al TblR 2013/01/09 16:25:43
    Al
    +1
    Armed (trained) staff is a better idea
  • phil.ol... TblR 2013/02/07 03:54:09
    phil.olding.3
    Trying to stop a mass shooter with armed security provides some chance that the shooter will be stopped.

    Trying to stop a mass shooter with scissors, and waiting for police officers to be your armed security, that are currently doing another job (being a police office) half an hour away... That's retarded.

    Stopping the problem before it happens is NOT possible.

    Armed security is providing SOME security for our children. No security is 100% secure, but having no security is RETARDED!
  • sundance 2013/01/04 15:12:09
    Yes
    sundance
    +1
    The school system should implement a security program, something like the Sky marshal's service. I think arming schools with unknown guards, may allow anonymity to provide an effectual line of deterrence and defense. These Marshall's can be cross trained as educators or administrators, to better serve the school and community...Just a thought...

    PS...This way, we don't have nervous, tactically untrained teachers packing guns...
  • kiote1963 2013/01/04 05:03:04
    Yes
    kiote1963
    +1
    Yes I stole this quote...lol..'Way better than leaving schools as "gun free zones" like the idiot progressives want."
  • kat 2013/01/03 20:23:36
    No
    kat
    Just a matter of time before one of those armed guards flip out and take out a number of people with the arms he/she is authorized to carry. Adding gasoline doesn't put out any fires.
  • sundance kat 2013/01/14 22:12:48
    sundance
    That is also stating "well we shouldn't arm police officers, because one of them will eventually flip out and shoot a bunch of people with the gun we gave them". That might be one of the most paranoid, counter productive opinions I have heard to date. That ranks even lower than the post suggesting we build "Robo Cop"....Just a thought...
  • kat sundance 2013/01/14 22:26:35
    kat
    You confuse insults for ideas. To equate the minimum wage security guard with a well trained police officer is inapt.
  • sundance kat 2013/01/15 04:02:08
    sundance
    To start with, the idea is not inept...
    The term, "well trained" didn't stop any single shooting ever perpetrated by a police officer. The simple fact that they are part of a police force, does not remove their propensity to be human.
    The real (and non agenda driven, paranoia fed) facts are quite simple. Neither a police or "minimum wage security guards", stand a better chance of "flipping out", than any private citizen with a firearm. The simple fact that the presence of an armed guard might deter a single shooting, makes them a viable and valuable investment. Should the trend be to attack the innocent and undefended, then to provide security is paramount, and should be provided by what ever means is available...Just a thought...
  • phil.ol... kat 2013/02/07 03:55:50
    phil.olding.3
    You're an idiot. Here's an idea: Realize that you're an idiot, and get educated.

    Saying that armed security is going to flip out and kill kids is like saying that the secret service shouldn't have guns because one of them will flip out and kill the president.

    It's retarded. Now grow the hell up.
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