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When Sen. Obama wins this election, will you be a proud American ?

grizzly October 30, 2008 19:05:30

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  • +16 qotsa0079 October 31, 2008 00:31:27
    qotsa0079

    no

    No, I will be a scared american. Did we not fight a coldwar for over fifty years to stop socialism and communist ideas in this country? My problem is that Obama's plan is a welfare system for the entire country. Don't we have enough useless shits on welfare as it is? I hate Bush too but that doesn't mean I stuff my head up my ass and vote for whoever is running in another party. So... McCain or Obama? We are getting fucked either way. As far as voter fraud during the Bush election? Look, if you're too stupid to fill out a ballad, you're too stupid decide who should run the country.
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  • jim April 11, 2009 17:01:38
    jim

    no

    I am not supportive of anyone who drives a socialist agenda!
  • grizzly jim May 14, 2009 06:15:48
    grizzly
    Including Bush ? More got government assistance under him than ever before !
  • domnmo November 30, 2008 13:51:07 (edited)
    domnmo

    no

    i do not like him i think he has other plans he just gives me a bad feeling and i hate to say that about a black man my brothers and sisters are all half black and white i am the only white sheep of the group lol but they all voted for mccain as well as i did BUT when i said no i was refuring to the fact that just because he is black that it would not make me more proud to be a american
    I WILL ALWAYS BE A PROUD AMERICAN
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    pinklilly November 30, 2008 01:49:24
    pinklilly

    yes

    i will always be a proud american!
  • mizz.applebottom November 29, 2008 19:36:22
    mizz.applebottom

    yes

    Y3S I WILL B3 A PR0UD AM3RICAN B3CAUS3 I AM BLACK AND OBAMA IS 0UR FIRST BLACK PR3SID3NT S0 Y0U RIGHT I WILL B3 PR0UD 2 B3 AN AM3RICAN
  • domnmo mizz.ap... November 30, 2008 14:06:44
    domnmo
    i find it sad that the only reason you would be a proud american would be due to us having a black president and you are black now see i really find that a bad reason to vote for someone due to ethnic back ground or there sex i vote for who i think will do there best for our country i will always be a proud american
  • Cole Bucket November 29, 2008 18:47:15
    Cole Bucket

    no

    I'm now in fear for my country.
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    top39new November 29, 2008 18:24:28
    top39new

    yes

    The whole world wants to see America prove its promises. Is there REALLY equal opportunity? American blacks are like battered wives. They are so battered that they are busy nursing their wounds. That's me. Barack, on the other hand, grew up with pride in his father and African background, and lacks the anxiety that holds the rest of us back.
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    Alex November 29, 2008 16:47:48
    Alex

    yes

    Yes I will Be a proud american because there is a new race in running now and i believe that he will try his best!
  • mizz -dee-dee November 28, 2008 06:00:57
    mizz -dee-dee

    yes

    yea and is this a boy or girl
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    Easy November 28, 2008 00:06:42
    Easy

    yes

    Yeah, I will be. Here's the deal. Socialism? If you people understood how close our government is to socialism already, you'd move to Canada. Who cares? Voting for McCain meant doing the same thing again that obviously doesn't ever work. And it hasn't worked in 140 years. If we are going to continue to screw it up, we might as well screw it up doing something different for a change. He can't possibly be any worse than some of these other morons we've had running this country. I say give him a chance and stop worrying so much. Understand the difference between socialism and communism and keep in mind that our populace owns far too many guns for a dictatorship. Stop worrying so much and hope for the best.
  • Scarecrow November 27, 2008 07:12:08
    Scarecrow

    no

    its gonna be the clinton administration all over again
    so basically if your in the military, make good money, and/or dont like welfare: prepared to get screwed
  • grizzly Scarecrow December 02, 2008 05:02:55
    grizzly
    Clinton made them work for the welfare...just sayin...
  • JTGator American Patriot "... November 26, 2008 22:40:16 (edited)
    JTGator  American Patriot "In God We Trust"

    Undecided

    I think the article below puts some thought on the issue.


    Not the end of the world
    It's easy to let yourself go in despair and start thinking things like "We are well-and-truly screwed" or "This is the worst of all possible outcomes". But it isn't true.
    I think this election is going to be a "coming of age" moment for a lot of people. They say, "Be careful what you wish for" and a lot of people got their wish yesterday.
    And now they're bound to be disappointed. Not even Jesus could satisfy all the expectations of Obama's most vocal supporters, or fulfill all the promises Obama has made.
    I think Obama is going to turn out to be the worst president since Carter, and for the same reason: good intentions do not guarantee good results. Idealists often stub their toes on the wayward rocks of reality, and fall on their faces. And the world doesn't respond to benign behavior benignly.
    But there's another reason why: Obama has been hiding his light under a basket. A lot of people bought a pig in a poke today, and now they're going to find out what they bought. Obama isn't what most of them think he is. The intoxication of the cult will wear off, leaving a monumental hangover.
    And four years from now they'll be older and much wiser.
    A lot of bad things are going to happen during this term. But I don't ...'''""""""''''''''''''''''""'''''''""''''''''''''''
    I think the article below puts some thought on the issue.


    Not the end of the world
    It's easy to let yourself go in despair and start thinking things like "We are well-and-truly screwed" or "This is the worst of all possible outcomes". But it isn't true.
    I think this election is going to be a "coming of age" moment for a lot of people. They say, "Be careful what you wish for" and a lot of people got their wish yesterday.
    And now they're bound to be disappointed. Not even Jesus could satisfy all the expectations of Obama's most vocal supporters, or fulfill all the promises Obama has made.
    I think Obama is going to turn out to be the worst president since Carter, and for the same reason: good intentions do not guarantee good results. Idealists often stub their toes on the wayward rocks of reality, and fall on their faces. And the world doesn't respond to benign behavior benignly.
    But there's another reason why: Obama has been hiding his light under a basket. A lot of people bought a pig in a poke today, and now they're going to find out what they bought. Obama isn't what most of them think he is. The intoxication of the cult will wear off, leaving a monumental hangover.
    And four years from now they'll be older and much wiser.
    A lot of bad things are going to happen during this term. But I don't think that this is an irreversible catastrophe for the union. I've lived long enough to absorb this basic truth: the US is too large and too strong to destroy in just 4 years. Or even in 8. We survived 6 years of Nixon. We survived 4 years of Carter. We even survived 8 years of Clinton, God alone knows how.
    The President of the United States is the most powerful political figure in the world, but as national executives go his powers are actually quite restricted. Obama will become President, but he won't be dictator or king, let alone deity. He still has to work with the House and the Senate, and he still has to live within Constitutional restrictions, and with a judiciary that he mostly didn't appoint.
    The main reason this will be a "coming of age" moment is that now Obama and the Democrats have to put up or shut up. Obama got elected by making himself a blank slate, with vapid promises about "hope" and "change" -- but now he actually has to do something. Now he has to reveal his true agenda. And with the Democrats also having a majority in both chambers of Congress, now the Democrats really have to lead. And they're not going to do a very good job of it. It's going to be amusing to watch.
    And the people who fell for the demagoguery will learn an invaluable lesson.
    Oh, the Democrats try to blame failure on Republican filibusters, of which there will be many. But that's always been a factor in our system, and many people believe it's an important check on government excess. The tradition in the Senate is that it is supposed to be a buffer against transient political fads, and the filibuster is a major part of that.
    If the Democrats go all in, and change the filibuster rule, then they'll have truly seized the nettle with both hands and won't have any excuses any longer. That's why they won't do it. It's their last fig-leaf. But even with the filibuster rule in place, they'll be stuck trying to deliver now on all the promises implied, or inferred, during this election. The Republicans can only filibuster on bills the Democrats have already proposed.
    And it ain't possible for the Democrats to deliver what's been promised. Gonna be a hell of a lot of disillusioned lefties out there. A lot of people who felt they were deceived. A lot of people who will eventually realize that the Obama campaign was something of a cult.
    Disillusionment will turn to a feeling of betrayal. And that will, in turn, convert to anger.
    In the mean time, Obama and Congressional Democrats will do things that cause harm, but very little of it will be irreversible.
    I would have enjoyed watching lefty heads explode if McCain had won. But we're going to see lefty heads exploding anyway; it's just going to take longer.
    In the mean time, those of us who didn't want Obama to be president have to accept that he is. And let's not give in to the kind of paranoid fever dreams that have consumed the left for the last 8 years. Let us collectively take a vow tonight: no "Obama derangement syndrome". Obama is a politician. He isn't the devil incarnate.
    So what are the good sides of what just happened?
    1. It is no longer possible for anyone to deny that the MSM (Main Stream Media) is heavily biased. The MSM have been biased for decades but managed an illusion of fairness. That is no longer possible; the MSM have squandered their credibility during this campaign. They'll never get that credibility back again.
    2. Since the Democrats got nearly everything they hoped for in this campaign, they'll have no excuses and will have to produce. They'll have to reveal their true agenda -- or else make clear that they don't really have any beyond gaining power.
    3. Every few decades the American people have to be reminded that peace only comes with strength. The next four years will be this generation's lesson.
    Now, a few predictions for the next four years:
    1. Obama's "hold out your hand to everyone" foreign policy is going to be a catastrophe. They'll love it in Europe. They're probably laughing their heads off about it in the middle east already.
    2. The US hasn't suffered a terrorist attack by AL Qaeda since 9/11, but we'll get at least one during Obama's term.
    3. We're going to lose in Afghanistan.
    4. Iran will get nuclear weapons. There will be nuclear war between Iran and Israel. (This is the only irreversibly terrible thing I see upcoming, and it's very bad indeed.)
    5. There will eventually be a press backlash against Obama which will make their treatment of Bush look mild. Partly that's going to be because Obama is going to disappoint them just as much as all his other supporters. Partly it will be the MSM desperately trying to regain its own credibility, by trying to show that they're not in his tank any longer. And because of that they are eventually going to do the reporting they should have done during this campaign, about Obama's less-than-savory friends, and about voter fraud, and about illegal fund-raising, and about a lot of other things.
    and
    6. Obama will not be re-elected in 2012. He may even end up doing an LBJ and not even running again.
    One last thing: I'm not saying I'm happy with this outcome. I would much rather have had McCain win. But this is not the end of the world, or the end of this nation. We've survived much worse.
    And now we need to show the lefties how to lose. Our mission for the next four years is to be in opposition without becoming deranged.
    UPDATE: One other good thing: no one will be spinning grand conspiracy theories about this administration's Vice President being an evil, conniving genius who is the true power behind the throne.
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    Mont "G" November 26, 2008 20:30:59
    Mont "G"

    yes

    For those or you who are still trapped in your ancestors ways, get over it, change has come, i am not here to argue with you imbeciles, for those of you who want too. Some people make the most uneducated comments, but yet and still love to argue but can't spell, so as far as this half black President of "ours" he's here!!!!!!
  • anji November 26, 2008 06:20:03
    anji

    yes

    no duh
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    Dez November 25, 2008 21:31:40
    Dez

    no

    No. I beleive he has to prove himself to us. Then be proud. Bush is leaving so we should be happy but there's a lot of pieces to pick up also.
  • Bubbie Sanchez November 25, 2008 20:23:07
    Bubbie Sanchez

    Undecided

    da hell U think
  • Star November 25, 2008 18:35:08 (edited)
    Star

    Undecided

    I am just proud to be me. I don't think that any one man or woman has the power to change as much as any of these or past people claim. No man can honestly lead anothers steps. That's like the blind leading the blind. Eventually one will stumble and fall if they don't absolutely just walk off a cliff altogether. I don't care that he's half black/half white. People in America still pay too much on race. I get so sick of people who call themselves African-American when they were born here in America,their mothers and father were born here in America, more than likely their Grandparents were born here in America. You are American and if you don't believe me try to go to Africa and tell them you're African-American they will laugh you right back out of their country! People stop looking so much at race as in creed of color. God made us all as human beings. That is our race...the world over....human. Plain and simple. And don't expect for one man or one woman no matter what color they are to solve the worlds problems. It's not going to happen. It's going to take EVERY man and EVERY woman the whole world over to make a real change! Peace be unto you all.

    ~Star
  • +1
    JAY November 25, 2008 16:26:25
    JAY

    yes

    yes i would i dont see y not Obama is a smart man.
  • +1
    pat November 25, 2008 15:17:34
    pat

    yes

    I was so proud because I felt the election was based on the quality of the man and not some very ignorant consideration of his racial roots. I beleive that America has the opportunity to make some very fantastic changes for the better, if we don't blow this chance. God Bless America.
  • edwinjk November 25, 2008 15:02:49
    edwinjk

    no

    For those who have fought for it FREEDON has a taste the protected will never know!
  • Baboo November 25, 2008 13:59:22
    Baboo

    no

    Hell NO!!!! What idiot would be ???
  • cuchu November 25, 2008 05:57:06
    cuchu

    no

    Obama wins this election by "Liars".
  • skylinedude November 25, 2008 05:47:54
    skylinedude

    no

    the funny thing is, our country has been going downwards since Lincoln.... moving away from the REPUBLIC, which it was built to be, now is a democracy, and will soon be a socialist country.... whats funnier, people are going to yell at me thru the internet "lincoln was a great pres.... blah blah blah," because they buy the government-fed crap taught in the public schools. those that win write history my friends....
  • +1
    Yari November 24, 2008 22:01:31
    Yari

    yes

    of course
  • +1
    Annie November 24, 2008 20:52:10
    Annie

    no

    Just because he is the first African American President doesn't mean he isn't going to be like and other democrat that did horrible for us.
  • imbrianinsc November 24, 2008 19:18:23 (edited)
    imbrianinsc

    Undecided

    He is inexperienced but the alternative isn't looking to good either. But regardless of what happens i will always be proud to be a AMERICAN !!!
  • Foo Master Angie November 24, 2008 16:46:20
    Foo Master Angie

    yes

    I am a proud American, NOT because of Obama. I am a proud American because this is where I live, and if you can't be proud of where you live, then get the hell out.
    I do not like Obama, and I did not vote for him. I am saddened by the amount of people he fooled into drinking his kool-aid.
    But my opinion of him will not change the fact that I am a proud American.
  • +1
    Stone Cold Steve Austin November 24, 2008 16:30:32
    Stone Cold Steve Austin

    yes

    I am a proud american already
  • +1
    banan(N)a November 24, 2008 15:04:10
    banan(N)a

    Undecided

    what every seems to 4get, the government began in this country was a way to protect certain assetts and other amassed wealth from the king of england and common folk here. that's why they killed off the indians, they knew where to find these assetts but having no monitary system, they weren't considered to be precious only pretty. the uniting of north and south was purposed to futher this need to protect an even larger area of land than they first thought. (they didn't move quick enough to get canada- but they did try. obama will not have access to old world power and money, like the busch does. good luck obama. someone needs to exspose those lying hypocrites in our "democracy" and really give the power to the people not just the rich ones who feed off our misery.
  • +1
    Illnavis November 23, 2008 20:41:03
    Illnavis

    yes

    Yea because I think that Obama is going to make the greatest fair change that America has ever experienced.
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    al November 23, 2008 14:03:28
    al

    no

    Not proud , ashamed and revulsed , that this once great country could fall to this level of stupidity. We now have a socialist porch monkey as our leader. The country is on a fast track to third world status , and I fully intend to be elsewhere when it arrives.
  • grizzly al November 23, 2008 23:11:11
    grizzly
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    bud al November 24, 2008 05:38:05
    bud
    I'm a Vietnam Vet. I love my country.
    The news media shielded Obama in such a manner, that the "news bite voters" saw only what Obama wanted shown.
    OBAMA is a MARXIST, pure & simple.
    We are in for AT LEAST 4 dangerous years. Dangerous to what?
    OUR Constitution & all that it stands for.
    Your answer was right on. Thank You.
  • grizzly bud November 24, 2008 06:03:47
    grizzly
    ENJOY !!!
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    Davidaaf bud November 24, 2008 17:02:47
    Davidaaf
    Karl Heinrich Marx (May 5, 1818, Trier, then part of Prussian Rhineland – March 14, 1883, London) was an immensely influential German philosopher, political economist, and socialist revolutionary. Marx addressed a wide variety of issues, including alienation and exploitation of the worker, the capitalist mode of production, and historical materialism.

    What's so horrible with that??
  • Tom al December 05, 2008 04:08:16 (edited)
    Tom
    Al you should take your porch monkey ass, as far away from America, as fast as you can, I don't know why your mother let you live, I know she regrets that.
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    namery123 November 22, 2008 14:02:44
    namery123

    yes

    HELL YEA.... i MEAN COME ON WE NEVER HAD BLACK PRESIDENT. BUSH SUCKS AND SO DOES MCCAIN. I WILL ALWAYS BE A PROUD AMERICAN IF THEY'RE WERE MORE BLACK PRESIDENT'S TO COME.
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    Foo Mas... namery123 November 24, 2008 16:43:38
    Foo Master Angie
    So, regardless of their experience or ability to do the job, as long as they're black, you'll be proud?
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