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Is this 700B, a bailout for the rich or a rescue for all Americans?

Gramma Lil September 24, 2008 20:38:17

A bailout for the rich!
A rescue for all Americans!
I'm main street so it hurts me!
I'm wall street so this helps me!
I'm so confused I don't know what street I'm on anymore!
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  • +8 raves SMOKEY September 25, 2008 01:52:57
    SMOKEY

    A bailout for the rich!

    PAULSON WANTED FULL AUTONOMY TO MAKE DECISIONS, READ SECTION 8 OF HIS PROPOSAL, WANTED NO RESTRICTIONS TO CEO BONUSES OR PAY.
    NO RESTRICTIONS ON HIS POWERS OR DECISION MAKING ABILITY
    AND NO REPRESUSSIONS TO HIS ACTIONS
    WHEN ASKED ABOUT ALTERNATIVE AND SAFER METHODS, HE (PAULSON) REPEATEDLY SAID "THAT CONSTRAINTS OR PENALTIES WOULD DISCOURAGE PARTICIPATION IN THIS VOLUNTARY PROGRAM."
    WHAT---COMPANIES, THAT ARE IN TROUBLE, WILL NOT TAKE THE HAND OUT IF THEY MUST PAY IT BACK, OR MUST GIVE AN EQUITY POSITION IN THE COMPANY, NO STOCK FOR THIS MONEY, OUR MONEY..
    IF THEY WILL NOT PARTICPATE IN THIS PROGRAM DUE TO RESTRICTIONS AND REGUALTIONS ON CONDUCT....I SAY LET THEM FAIL...GO AT IT ON YOUR OWN.......FREE MARKETS BAABY..YOU ASKED FOR IT AND HERE YOU GOT IT RIGHT IN THE TEETH...YOUR OWN KIND ATE YOU ALIVE, AND YOU WERE NOT EVEN FINISHED EATING UP THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASSS
    NOT HINT AT A RETURN ONT HE INVESTMENT OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS EITHER.
    HE KEPT REPEATING THAT IT NEEDED TO BE DONE NOW, RIGHT NOW, FIGURE OUT THE LEGISLATION LATER.
    GARBAGE, HE WILL NOT IMPLEMENT THIS THING TO THE BENEFIT OF ALL.
    HE IS FORMER CEO OF GOLDMAN SACHS, HE JUST LEFT 3 TO 4 YEARS AGO
    AND THEY STAND TO BENEFIT FROM THE BAILOUT AS WELL
    HE WAS THERE IN THE PRIME OF THIS DEBACLE.
    HIS EXCUSE IS HE DI...










    PAULSON WANTED FULL AUTONOMY TO MAKE DECISIONS, READ SECTION 8 OF HIS PROPOSAL, WANTED NO RESTRICTIONS TO CEO BONUSES OR PAY.
    NO RESTRICTIONS ON HIS POWERS OR DECISION MAKING ABILITY
    AND NO REPRESUSSIONS TO HIS ACTIONS
    WHEN ASKED ABOUT ALTERNATIVE AND SAFER METHODS, HE (PAULSON) REPEATEDLY SAID "THAT CONSTRAINTS OR PENALTIES WOULD DISCOURAGE PARTICIPATION IN THIS VOLUNTARY PROGRAM."
    WHAT---COMPANIES, THAT ARE IN TROUBLE, WILL NOT TAKE THE HAND OUT IF THEY MUST PAY IT BACK, OR MUST GIVE AN EQUITY POSITION IN THE COMPANY, NO STOCK FOR THIS MONEY, OUR MONEY..
    IF THEY WILL NOT PARTICPATE IN THIS PROGRAM DUE TO RESTRICTIONS AND REGUALTIONS ON CONDUCT....I SAY LET THEM FAIL...GO AT IT ON YOUR OWN.......FREE MARKETS BAABY..YOU ASKED FOR IT AND HERE YOU GOT IT RIGHT IN THE TEETH...YOUR OWN KIND ATE YOU ALIVE, AND YOU WERE NOT EVEN FINISHED EATING UP THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASSS
    NOT HINT AT A RETURN ONT HE INVESTMENT OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS EITHER.
    HE KEPT REPEATING THAT IT NEEDED TO BE DONE NOW, RIGHT NOW, FIGURE OUT THE LEGISLATION LATER.
    GARBAGE, HE WILL NOT IMPLEMENT THIS THING TO THE BENEFIT OF ALL.
    HE IS FORMER CEO OF GOLDMAN SACHS, HE JUST LEFT 3 TO 4 YEARS AGO
    AND THEY STAND TO BENEFIT FROM THE BAILOUT AS WELL
    HE WAS THERE IN THE PRIME OF THIS DEBACLE.
    HIS EXCUSE IS HE DID NOT DEAL WITH THE REGULATORY ASPECT.
    HIS GOAL SI TO RESTORE LIQUIDITY SO PEOPLE CAN EXTEND MORE CREDIT.
    NO MENTION FO PEOPLE KEEPING THEIR HOMES AS A PRIORITY, MAYBE A GOOD MESSAGE, BUT NOT A PRIORITY.
    HE SAYS TAXPAY DOLALRS NEED TO PURCHASE WORTHLESS PAPER, AT COST OR PREMIUM, PAPER THAT NO ONE CAN TELL US IS TIED TO ANYTHING AND IF IT IS, NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IT IS TIED TO.
    SUPPOSEDLY REAL ESTATE, BUT WHERE IT IS, WHO IS IN TROUBLE, WHO WILL $700 BILLION ACTUALLY HELP OTHER THAN THE BALANCE SHEETS OF THE CORPORATIONS, THERE IS NO DETAIL, NO SUGGESTION, NO HINT AT ANY INTENTIONS IN THIS DIRECTION
    I SAY LET THEM FAIL THEN BUY THE MORTGAGES FOR .25c ON THE DOLLAR
    LIKE A SMART BUSINESS DOES
    SAVE US ABOUT $450 BILLION IN THE PROCESS.....
    FREE MARKETS BABY
    NO ONE BUYS DEBT AT COST
    NO ONE
    ASK ANY COLLECTION AGENCY
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  • +1 raves
    MS Bryan October 01, 2008 21:47:31
    MS
    The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
    Ronald Reagan
  • +3 raves
    AnneMac September 25, 2008 06:38:51
    AnneMac

    A bailout for the rich!

    Unless they modify it somewhat to put in some restrictions and requirements, it'll be a bailout for the rich. If they build in some requirements like President Clinton described on the Daily Show this week, they will be able to force the lenders to renegotiate some of the foreclosures and prevent them from losing so much money. (A refinance at a fixed rate can get more money paid back on the mortgages than doing a short sale at a 30-75% loss.) And if they are forced to pay back the money with interest, you will see a slight gain coming back to the taxpayers. Finally, if they eliminate all the multi-million dollar golden parachutes and bonuses for the executives who have run these establishments into the ground, that will go a long way to stem the hemorrhaging. So: if the deal is worked out right, it can go from golden goose bailout to a rescue for a lot of Americans in addition. Cross your fingers and write your Senators at their web sites now!
  • +3 raves
    YourObamaUpdate.com September 25, 2008 05:54:19
    YourObamaUpdate.com

    A bailout for the rich!

    Contact you local congressman and tell them no bailout with out significant oversight and provisions... like CEO's salary's are capped and no bonuses... their companies FAILED after all.
  • +3 raves
    Stix September 25, 2008 05:40:16 (edited)
    Stix

    A bailout for the rich!

    You go to buy a house and these blood suckers tell you "If you can just make payments of $2,000. a month for a year, we then could refinance your new house so you will then pay only about $800. a month after that" The dum buyer says great and struggles to make the payments. After a year he goes in for the lower loan and is told sorry but you can't have the lower payment loan, so keep up or we will take your house. So he can't keep up and the mortgage company sells the buyers house for a quarter of it's value to someone else.

    To add insult to injury Bush comes on t.v. and tells everyone that we as taxpayers must pitch in and pay higher taxes to keep the mortgage people afloat, and the guy that lost his house of course must pitch in to save these people and help pay the CEO'S their couple hundred thousand bonus checks, plus their big salaries.

    What is wrong with this picture, I ask you? As Hillary and Bill said, "Refinance the home loan ,so the person won't lose his house, and the payment will be going into the bank to keep it afloat instead of taking a loss on it with a stranger." Get rid of the ridiculous amount these companies are paying management. I have no doubt many qualified people would replace these big money people and take the job for a lot less money.
  • +3 raves
    benzdoc September 25, 2008 04:29:59
    benzdoc

    A bailout for the rich!

    keep giving the gamblers money to play on, even better if you can get free money
  • +4 raves
    NICKI70 September 25, 2008 03:40:04
    NICKI70

    A bailout for the rich!

    If they cared so much they wouldn't let these people walk away with 40,000,000 in retirement..I wont mine is in the shittier
  • +4 raves
    doctor dee September 25, 2008 03:27:44 (edited)
    doctor dee

    A bailout for the rich!

    thats why they want to push it through so fast everyone who plays the markets knows you can lose everything the market is a gamble can i get bail out if i lose the lotto NO
  • +2 raves
    dr t jr September 25, 2008 03:22:12
    dr t jr

    None of the above

    it's not a "bail out" they are literally investing it all where they see fit
    do i like it...no
    will i suport it...no
    will it happen...probably
  • +3 raves
    Lynn September 25, 2008 02:44:56
    Lynn

    A bailout for the rich!

    They just say that it is for all of us but not one has asked what we think and they don't care. They think if they keep telling us it is for all Americans that we will just go along.Where was the money when so many lost there houses? Oh I forgot they only care when wall street is bleeding not main street.
  • +4 raves
    Nowonmai September 25, 2008 02:31:04
    Nowonmai

    A bailout for the rich!

    And all those executives of those companies should be forced to turn over those 20+ million dollar salaries/bonuses.
  • +8 raves
    SMOKEY September 25, 2008 01:52:57
    SMOKEY

    A bailout for the rich!

    PAULSON WANTED FULL AUTONOMY TO MAKE DECISIONS, READ SECTION 8 OF HIS PROPOSAL, WANTED NO RESTRICTIONS TO CEO BONUSES OR PAY.
    NO RESTRICTIONS ON HIS POWERS OR DECISION MAKING ABILITY
    AND NO REPRESUSSIONS TO HIS ACTIONS
    WHEN ASKED ABOUT ALTERNATIVE AND SAFER METHODS, HE (PAULSON) REPEATEDLY SAID "THAT CONSTRAINTS OR PENALTIES WOULD DISCOURAGE PARTICIPATION IN THIS VOLUNTARY PROGRAM."
    WHAT---COMPANIES, THAT ARE IN TROUBLE, WILL NOT TAKE THE HAND OUT IF THEY MUST PAY IT BACK, OR MUST GIVE AN EQUITY POSITION IN THE COMPANY, NO STOCK FOR THIS MONEY, OUR MONEY..
    IF THEY WILL NOT PARTICPATE IN THIS PROGRAM DUE TO RESTRICTIONS AND REGUALTIONS ON CONDUCT....I SAY LET THEM FAIL...GO AT IT ON YOUR OWN.......FREE MARKETS BAABY..YOU ASKED FOR IT AND HERE YOU GOT IT RIGHT IN THE TEETH...YOUR OWN KIND ATE YOU ALIVE, AND YOU WERE NOT EVEN FINISHED EATING UP THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASSS
    NOT HINT AT A RETURN ONT HE INVESTMENT OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS EITHER.
    HE KEPT REPEATING THAT IT NEEDED TO BE DONE NOW, RIGHT NOW, FIGURE OUT THE LEGISLATION LATER.
    GARBAGE, HE WILL NOT IMPLEMENT THIS THING TO THE BENEFIT OF ALL.
    HE IS FORMER CEO OF GOLDMAN SACHS, HE JUST LEFT 3 TO 4 YEARS AGO
    AND THEY STAND TO BENEFIT FROM THE BAILOUT AS WELL
    HE WAS THERE IN THE PRIME OF THIS DEBACLE.
    HIS EXCUSE IS HE DI...










    PAULSON WANTED FULL AUTONOMY TO MAKE DECISIONS, READ SECTION 8 OF HIS PROPOSAL, WANTED NO RESTRICTIONS TO CEO BONUSES OR PAY.
    NO RESTRICTIONS ON HIS POWERS OR DECISION MAKING ABILITY
    AND NO REPRESUSSIONS TO HIS ACTIONS
    WHEN ASKED ABOUT ALTERNATIVE AND SAFER METHODS, HE (PAULSON) REPEATEDLY SAID "THAT CONSTRAINTS OR PENALTIES WOULD DISCOURAGE PARTICIPATION IN THIS VOLUNTARY PROGRAM."
    WHAT---COMPANIES, THAT ARE IN TROUBLE, WILL NOT TAKE THE HAND OUT IF THEY MUST PAY IT BACK, OR MUST GIVE AN EQUITY POSITION IN THE COMPANY, NO STOCK FOR THIS MONEY, OUR MONEY..
    IF THEY WILL NOT PARTICPATE IN THIS PROGRAM DUE TO RESTRICTIONS AND REGUALTIONS ON CONDUCT....I SAY LET THEM FAIL...GO AT IT ON YOUR OWN.......FREE MARKETS BAABY..YOU ASKED FOR IT AND HERE YOU GOT IT RIGHT IN THE TEETH...YOUR OWN KIND ATE YOU ALIVE, AND YOU WERE NOT EVEN FINISHED EATING UP THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASSS
    NOT HINT AT A RETURN ONT HE INVESTMENT OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS EITHER.
    HE KEPT REPEATING THAT IT NEEDED TO BE DONE NOW, RIGHT NOW, FIGURE OUT THE LEGISLATION LATER.
    GARBAGE, HE WILL NOT IMPLEMENT THIS THING TO THE BENEFIT OF ALL.
    HE IS FORMER CEO OF GOLDMAN SACHS, HE JUST LEFT 3 TO 4 YEARS AGO
    AND THEY STAND TO BENEFIT FROM THE BAILOUT AS WELL
    HE WAS THERE IN THE PRIME OF THIS DEBACLE.
    HIS EXCUSE IS HE DID NOT DEAL WITH THE REGULATORY ASPECT.
    HIS GOAL SI TO RESTORE LIQUIDITY SO PEOPLE CAN EXTEND MORE CREDIT.
    NO MENTION FO PEOPLE KEEPING THEIR HOMES AS A PRIORITY, MAYBE A GOOD MESSAGE, BUT NOT A PRIORITY.
    HE SAYS TAXPAY DOLALRS NEED TO PURCHASE WORTHLESS PAPER, AT COST OR PREMIUM, PAPER THAT NO ONE CAN TELL US IS TIED TO ANYTHING AND IF IT IS, NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IT IS TIED TO.
    SUPPOSEDLY REAL ESTATE, BUT WHERE IT IS, WHO IS IN TROUBLE, WHO WILL $700 BILLION ACTUALLY HELP OTHER THAN THE BALANCE SHEETS OF THE CORPORATIONS, THERE IS NO DETAIL, NO SUGGESTION, NO HINT AT ANY INTENTIONS IN THIS DIRECTION
    I SAY LET THEM FAIL THEN BUY THE MORTGAGES FOR .25c ON THE DOLLAR
    LIKE A SMART BUSINESS DOES
    SAVE US ABOUT $450 BILLION IN THE PROCESS.....
    FREE MARKETS BABY
    NO ONE BUYS DEBT AT COST
    NO ONE
    ASK ANY COLLECTION AGENCY
    (more)
  • +3 raves
    Ayla SMOKEY September 25, 2008 02:04:52
    Ayla
    I believe Paulson only has a few months to serve and will be replaced with an unknown.

    Do we want to give that much power to someone yet to be choose?
  • +3 raves
    Devil Dog September 25, 2008 01:50:02
    Devil Dog

    A bailout for the rich!

    Sorry Us Middle class and lower class we don't count! This is The DNC bailout everyone on Wall Street support the DNC's. So, why the hell isn't OBADAMA going back to Washington to Help? Cause those supporters on Wall Street gave him lots of money to take him this far. street support dncs obadama washington supporters wall street lots money
  • +3 raves
    SMOKEY Devil Dog September 25, 2008 03:23:41
    SMOKEY
    DUDE YOU GOT IT ALL BACKWARDS HOW ARE YOU SAY WALL STREET BACKS OBAMA WHEN MCCAIN'S POLICY ADVISOR JUST GOT PAID BY HIS COMPANY IN AUGUST FROM FANNIE MAE.
    ISEE YOUR TACTICS PUNK
    HOW MUCH DO THEY PAY YOU TO SPIT THIS GARBAGE
    ANYONE WATCHING KNOWS WHO HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON THE SIDE OF WALL STREET
    THE RNC
    I WATCHED THE CONVENTION OF THE RNC
    ALL BIG BIG BUSINESS MEN
    THE DEMS HAD ALL I MEAN ALL REGULAR WORKING MIDDLE CLASS FOLKS
    SPEAKING AT THEIR CONVENTION
  • +3 raves
    Stix Devil Dog September 25, 2008 05:48:57
    Stix
    I accidently gave you a rave. The reason Bush asked Obama to help was because Bush is looking for someone to blame.
    I suppose you are foolish enough to think this administration isn't up to their necks in this debacle. Think again or better yet look up the facts.
  • tracie ... Devil Dog September 26, 2008 06:22:17
    tracie 'American patriot
    this is true.
  • +6 raves
    solarGil September 25, 2008 01:36:24
    solarGil

    A bailout for the rich!

    The only REAL financial crisis exists for the rich and they deserve to be bailed out. For the rest of us working grunts - the financial crisis is all "in our minds" (according to Phil Gramm, McCain's chief economic advisor and regulation dismantler extraordinaire). So quit yer "whining"!
  • +3 raves
    Lynn solarGil September 25, 2008 02:48:55
    Lynn
    Great post!
  • +2 raves
    solarGil Lynn September 25, 2008 03:59:19
    solarGil
    thank you :)
  • +4 raves
    SMOKEY solarGil September 25, 2008 03:30:22
    SMOKEY
    YES REMEMBER PHIL GRAMM
    MCCAIN POLICY ADVISOR TOP DOGG
    NEXT IN LINE FOR PAULSONS JOB PEOPLE
    THE REGULATION TERMINATOR
    -GRAMM LEACH BAILEY ACT
    THE COMMODITIES FUTURES MODERNIZATION ACT OF 2000
    KNOW THE PLAYERS KNOW THEIR GAMES
    GET THESE GUYS OUT OF THERE
    ADN KEEP THEM FAR AWAY FOR A LONG LONG TIME
  • SMOKEY solarGil September 28, 2008 01:25:20
    SMOKEY
    Thank you
    and guess what Phil Gramm the "Regulation Teminator"
    is Mccain's top choice for Paulson's position.
  • +4 raves
    mike September 25, 2008 00:09:00
    mike

    A bailout for the rich!

    With a few crumbs tossed to the people these clowns screwed over just for show.
  • +3 raves
    cathy~COB "Love One Another" September 24, 2008 23:11:35
    cathy~COB

    A bailout for the rich!

    Duh.....
  • +5 raves
    Cynic -- is gone. September 24, 2008 22:40:11
    Cynic -- is gone.

    A bailout for the rich!

    I ran a business and bled money for a year and a half until I had to give it up. Why should some Wall Street CEO get a $40-million golden parachute from the American taxpayers for doing the same thing on a much larger scale with other people's money?
  • +3 raves
    SMOKEY Cynic -... September 25, 2008 03:27:09
    SMOKEY
    I HEAR YA FOR REAL
    THAT'S ALL I AM SAYING
    I CANNOT GET A LOAN A GRANT OR NOTHING TO GET MINE UP OFF THE GROUND.
    THEY CONDUCTED HORRIBLE IMMORAL BUSINESS PRACTICES MADE BILLION AS WE CONTINUED TO GET HIT WITH EARNINGS RE STATEMENTS
    AND GOLDEN PARACHUTES
    REMEMBER ENRON,
    GOLDMANSACHS
    LEHMAN HAS 2.5 BILLION FOR NEW YORK BIG BOY BONUSES AND THEY JUST DECLARE BANKRUPTCY.
    WHO FILES BANKRUPTCY AND GETS A BONUS
    MY GODDDDDDDD
  • +6 raves
    Mollybdamned American Atheist September 24, 2008 22:34:32
    Mollybdamned American Atheist

    A bailout for the rich!

    It's a bailout for the rich and Bushes friends. Why do ya think Dick (strong arm) Cheney went to the U.S. House yesterday to twist arms. And they smacked him down. Now Bu$h is coming on TV tonight. I will bet you right now, that bushes whole speech is SCARE YA, SCARE YA, SCARE YA. I would be surprised if he didn't mention 911. Let's hear it and see if I am wrong. ya scare ya scare ya surprised mention 911 hear wrong
  • +4 raves
    Bun September 24, 2008 22:34:13
    Bun

    A bailout for the rich!

    Again!
  • +2 raves
    KristineB September 24, 2008 22:32:49
    KristineB

    I'm so confused I don't know what street I'm on anymore!

    Who knows why. Lies, Lies and more Lies.
  • +5 raves
    ***soxx*** September 24, 2008 22:21:28
    ***soxx***

    A bailout for the rich!

    john mccain is just trying to make it so the rich ppl get more of a tax break than they already have.
  • +6 raves
    ★ SLC ★ September 24, 2008 22:13:10
    ★ SLC ★

    A bailout for the rich!

    In it's current "republican" form. Republican supporters must be getting provided with some pretty good lube by their masters. That would explain why they don't mind getting fucked repeatedly. We non-repubs are getting a little chafed in the seat.
  • +2 raves
    Ayla September 24, 2008 21:40:20
    Ayla

    I'm so confused I don't know what street I'm on anymore!

    I say enough is enough while middle class people struggle, the high and mighty rich bankers and CEO’s collect undeserved rewards for bankrupting their companies. They need to be put in jail as a lesson to anyone else.

    How did this happen?

    Much as I hate Bush he did try to warn us and so did McCain but they were ignored along with
    Allen Greenspan’s Warning

    The clear gravity of the situation pushed the legislation forward. Some might say the current mess couldn’t be foreseen, yet in 2005 Alan Greenspan told Congress how urgent it was for it to act in the clearest possible terms: If Fannie and Freddie “continue to grow, continue to have the low capital that they have, continue to engage in the dynamic hedging of their portfolios, which they need to do for interest rate risk aversion, they potentially create ever-growing potential systemic risk down the road,'’ he said. “We are placing the total financial system of the future at a substantial risk.'’

    What happened next was extraordinary. For the first time in history, a serious Fannie and Freddie reform bill was passed by the Senate Banking Committee. The bill gave a regulator power to crack down, and would have required the companies to eliminate their investments in risky assets.

    If that bill had become law, then the ...












    I say enough is enough while middle class people struggle, the high and mighty rich bankers and CEO’s collect undeserved rewards for bankrupting their companies. They need to be put in jail as a lesson to anyone else.

    How did this happen?

    Much as I hate Bush he did try to warn us and so did McCain but they were ignored along with
    Allen Greenspan’s Warning

    The clear gravity of the situation pushed the legislation forward. Some might say the current mess couldn’t be foreseen, yet in 2005 Alan Greenspan told Congress how urgent it was for it to act in the clearest possible terms: If Fannie and Freddie “continue to grow, continue to have the low capital that they have, continue to engage in the dynamic hedging of their portfolios, which they need to do for interest rate risk aversion, they potentially create ever-growing potential systemic risk down the road,'’ he said. “We are placing the total financial system of the future at a substantial risk.'’

    What happened next was extraordinary. For the first time in history, a serious Fannie and Freddie reform bill was passed by the Senate Banking Committee. The bill gave a regulator power to crack down, and would have required the companies to eliminate their investments in risky assets.

    If that bill had become law, then the world today would be different. In 2005, 2006 and 2007, a blizzard of terrible mortgage paper fluttered out of the Fannie and Freddie clouds, burying many of our oldest and most venerable institutions. Without their checkbooks keeping the market liquid and buying up excess supply, the market would likely have not existed.

    But the bill didn’t become law, for a simple reason: DEMOCRATS opposed it on a party-line vote in the committee, signaling that this would be a partisan issue. Republicans, tied in knots by the tight Democratic opposition, couldn’t even get the Senate to vote on the matter.

    That such a reckless political stand could have been taken by the Democrats was obscene even then. Wallison wrote at the time: “It is a classic case of socializing the risk while privatizing the profit. The Democrats and the few Republicans who oppose portfolio limitations could not possibly do so if their constituents understood what they were doing.'’

    Now that the collapse has occurred, the roadblock built by Senate DEMOCRATS in 2005 is unforgivable. Many who opposed the bill doubtlessly did so for honorable reasons. Fannie and Freddie provided mounds of materials defending their practices. Perhaps some found their propaganda convincing.

    But we now know that many of the senators who protected Fannie and Freddie, including BARACK OBAMA, Hillary Clinton and Christopher Dodd, have received mind-boggling levels of financial support from them over the years.

    Will “60 Minutes” do a Special on this?
    Will TV investigage?
    You know the answers…this mess goes back to the Clinton administration so expect zero coverage by the biased media. They are the spin-filters.
    God bless the alternate “new media”. FOX
    (more)
  • +2 raves
    solarGil Ayla September 25, 2008 01:41:06
    solarGil
    Oh puhleeeze - the GOP had control of the house & the senate and the executive branch in 2005. Don't try and blame this on the Dems!
  • +3 raves
    Lynn Ayla September 25, 2008 02:51:43
    Lynn
    OMG will you people ever leave Clinton alone ! 6years of a rupublican president and congress and ther deregulationd is what caused this now they say it was Clinton are you kidding me!
  • +1 raves
    Stix Lynn September 25, 2008 05:54:36
    Stix
    You are totally correct Lynn. I guess some people disliked the fact that Clinton took our deficit from Red to BLACK. Must upset some that he would do that and now they are happy that Bush has us so far in the RED that the next 3 generations will pay for his mistakes.
    GO FIGURE.
  • +3 raves
    Brenda September 24, 2008 21:40:01
    Brenda

    A bailout for the rich!

    It's is not for the people nor will it ever be we will pay for this and that a crime. Wait till after the election and see what happens all our asses might be kicked to the curb this is just a pin hole in the bubble and the bubble will bust and guess what we will fall
  • +1 raves
    diaverde08-MolecularGastron... September 24, 2008 21:37:16
    diaverde08-MolecularGastronomer

    I'm so confused I don't know what street I'm on anymore!

    I'm not sure, but it could have been avoided if we were more responsible.
  • +2 raves
    Iamfree September 24, 2008 21:24:39
    Iamfree

    Undecided

    I've read reasoned arguments both for and against the bailout. It's a bad situation no matter what is done at this point.
  • +4 raves
    SMOKEY Iamfree September 25, 2008 03:35:53
    SMOKEY
    THE DEREGULATOR GUTTED THE DEPRESSION ERA REGULATIONS PUT IN PLACE TO KEEP THIS FROM HAPPENING
    THERE ARE STILL DEBT MARKETS TRADING RIGHT NOW THAT NOE ENTITY NOT EVEN THE SEC CAN LEGALLY POLICE
    NO TRANSPARENCY AT ALL.
    WHEN YOU LEVERAGE 100.OO TO GET A MILLION THOUSANDS OF TIMES OVER WITH IMPUNITY
    NOW THE TAXPAYERS NEED TO PONY UP SO THEY CAN EXTEND MORE CREDIT ON THIS OVER DRAWN CREDIT CARD
    HUMMNNN
    DOESN'T SOUND FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE TO ME
  • -1 raves
    tracie 'American patriot" September 24, 2008 21:23:34 (edited)
    tracie 'American patriot

    None of the above

    Don't worry Mcain will save our ass while obama is sitting on his..Just like the democrats on their 5 week vacation. Maybe could have done something if they were doing their jobs this whole time. Obama is a self serving ass.. He does not care about you. people need to wake up!
  • +4 raves
    LPE tracie ... September 24, 2008 21:47:18
    LPE
    Yeah, deregulation should help a lot. Ya think?
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