PAULSON WANTED FULL AUTONOMY TO MAKE DECISIONS, READ SECTION 8 OF HIS PROPOSAL, WANTED NO RESTRICTIONS TO CEO BONUSES OR PAY.
NO RESTRICTIONS ON HIS POWERS OR DECISION MAKING ABILITY
AND NO REPRESUSSIONS TO HIS ACTIONS
WHEN ASKED ABOUT ALTERNATIVE AND SAFER METHODS, HE (PAULSON) REPEATEDLY SAID "THAT CONSTRAINTS OR PENALTIES WOULD DISCOURAGE PARTICIPATION IN THIS VOLUNTARY PROGRAM."
WHAT---COMPANIES, THAT ARE IN TROUBLE, WILL NOT TAKE THE HAND OUT IF THEY MUST PAY IT BACK, OR MUST GIVE AN EQUITY POSITION IN THE COMPANY, NO STOCK FOR THIS MONEY, OUR MONEY..
IF THEY WILL NOT PARTICPATE IN THIS PROGRAM DUE TO RESTRICTIONS AND REGUALTIONS ON CONDUCT....I SAY LET THEM FAIL...GO AT IT ON YOUR OWN.......FREE MARKETS BAABY..YOU ASKED FOR IT AND HERE YOU GOT IT RIGHT IN THE TEETH...YOUR OWN KIND ATE YOU ALIVE, AND YOU WERE NOT EVEN FINISHED EATING UP THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASSS
NOT HINT AT A RETURN ONT HE INVESTMENT OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS EITHER.
HE KEPT REPEATING THAT IT NEEDED TO BE DONE NOW, RIGHT NOW, FIGURE OUT THE LEGISLATION LATER.
GARBAGE, HE WILL NOT IMPLEMENT THIS THING TO THE BENEFIT OF ALL.
HE IS FORMER CEO OF GOLDMAN SACHS, HE JUST LEFT 3 TO 4 YEARS AGO
AND THEY STAND TO BENEFIT FROM THE BAILOUT AS WELL
HE WAS THERE IN THE PRIME OF THIS DEBACLE.
HIS EXCUSE IS HE DID NOT DEAL WITH THE REGULATORY ASPECT.
HIS GOAL SI TO RESTORE LIQUIDITY SO PEOPLE CAN EXTEND MORE CREDIT.
NO MENTION FO PEOPLE KEEPING THEIR HOMES AS A PRIORITY, MAYBE A GOOD MESSAGE, BUT NOT A PRIORITY.
HE SAYS TAXPAY DOLALRS NEED TO PURCHASE WORTHLESS PAPER, AT COST OR PREMIUM, PAPER THAT NO ONE CAN TELL US IS TIED TO ANYTHING AND IF IT IS, NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IT IS TIED TO.
SUPPOSEDLY REAL ESTATE, BUT WHERE IT IS, WHO IS IN TROUBLE, WHO WILL $700 BILLION ACTUALLY HELP OTHER THAN THE BALANCE SHEETS OF THE CORPORATIONS, THERE IS NO DETAIL, NO SUGGESTION, NO HINT AT ANY INTENTIONS IN THIS DIRECTION
I SAY LET THEM FAIL THEN BUY THE MORTGAGES FOR .25c ON THE DOLLAR
LIKE A SMART BUSINESS DOES
SAVE US ABOUT $450 BILLION IN THE PROCESS.....
FREE MARKETS BABY
NO ONE BUYS DEBT AT COST
NO ONE
ASK ANY COLLECTION AGENCY
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Is this 700B, a bailout for the rich or a rescue for all Americans?
Gramma Lil September 24, 2008 20:38:17
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A bailout for the rich!
PAULSON WANTED FULL AUTONOMY TO MAKE DECISIONS, READ SECTION 8 OF HIS PROPOSAL, WANTED NO RESTRICTIONS TO CEO BONUSES OR PAY.(more)View thread
NO RESTRICTIONS ON HIS POWERS OR DECISION MAKING ABILITY
AND NO REPRESUSSIONS TO HIS ACTIONS
WHEN ASKED ABOUT ALTERNATIVE AND SAFER METHODS, HE (PAULSON) REPEATEDLY SAID "THAT CONSTRAINTS OR PENALTIES WOULD DISCOURAGE PARTICIPATION IN THIS VOLUNTARY PROGRAM."
WHAT---COMPANIES, THAT ARE IN TROUBLE, WILL NOT TAKE THE HAND OUT IF THEY MUST PAY IT BACK, OR MUST GIVE AN EQUITY POSITION IN THE COMPANY, NO STOCK FOR THIS MONEY, OUR MONEY..
IF THEY WILL NOT PARTICPATE IN THIS PROGRAM DUE TO RESTRICTIONS AND REGUALTIONS ON CONDUCT....I SAY LET THEM FAIL...GO AT IT ON YOUR OWN.......FREE MARKETS BAABY..YOU ASKED FOR IT AND HERE YOU GOT IT RIGHT IN THE TEETH...YOUR OWN KIND ATE YOU ALIVE, AND YOU WERE NOT EVEN FINISHED EATING UP THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASSS
NOT HINT AT A RETURN ONT HE INVESTMENT OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS EITHER.
HE KEPT REPEATING THAT IT NEEDED TO BE DONE NOW, RIGHT NOW, FIGURE OUT THE LEGISLATION LATER.
GARBAGE, HE WILL NOT IMPLEMENT THIS THING TO THE BENEFIT OF ALL.
HE IS FORMER CEO OF GOLDMAN SACHS, HE JUST LEFT 3 TO 4 YEARS AGO
AND THEY STAND TO BENEFIT FROM THE BAILOUT AS WELL
HE WAS THERE IN THE PRIME OF THIS DEBACLE.
HIS EXCUSE IS HE DI...
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A bailout for the rich!
A bailout for the rich!
A bailout for the rich!
To add insult to injury Bush comes on t.v. and tells everyone that we as taxpayers must pitch in and pay higher taxes to keep the mortgage people afloat, and the guy that lost his house of course must pitch in to save these people and help pay the CEO'S their couple hundred thousand bonus checks, plus their big salaries.
What is wrong with this picture, I ask you? As Hillary and Bill said, "Refinance the home loan ,so the person won't lose his house, and the payment will be going into the bank to keep it afloat instead of taking a loss on it with a stranger." Get rid of the ridiculous amount these companies are paying management. I have no doubt many qualified people would replace these big money people and take the job for a lot less money.
A bailout for the rich!
A bailout for the rich!
A bailout for the rich!
None of the above
do i like it...no
will i suport it...no
will it happen...probably
A bailout for the rich!
A bailout for the rich!
A bailout for the rich!
NO RESTRICTIONS ON HIS POWERS OR DECISION MAKING ABILITY
AND NO REPRESUSSIONS TO HIS ACTIONS
WHEN ASKED ABOUT ALTERNATIVE AND SAFER METHODS, HE (PAULSON) REPEATEDLY SAID "THAT CONSTRAINTS OR PENALTIES WOULD DISCOURAGE PARTICIPATION IN THIS VOLUNTARY PROGRAM."
WHAT---COMPANIES, THAT ARE IN TROUBLE, WILL NOT TAKE THE HAND OUT IF THEY MUST PAY IT BACK, OR MUST GIVE AN EQUITY POSITION IN THE COMPANY, NO STOCK FOR THIS MONEY, OUR MONEY..
IF THEY WILL NOT PARTICPATE IN THIS PROGRAM DUE TO RESTRICTIONS AND REGUALTIONS ON CONDUCT....I SAY LET THEM FAIL...GO AT IT ON YOUR OWN.......FREE MARKETS BAABY..YOU ASKED FOR IT AND HERE YOU GOT IT RIGHT IN THE TEETH...YOUR OWN KIND ATE YOU ALIVE, AND YOU WERE NOT EVEN FINISHED EATING UP THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASSS
NOT HINT AT A RETURN ONT HE INVESTMENT OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS EITHER.
HE KEPT REPEATING THAT IT NEEDED TO BE DONE NOW, RIGHT NOW, FIGURE OUT THE LEGISLATION LATER.
GARBAGE, HE WILL NOT IMPLEMENT THIS THING TO THE BENEFIT OF ALL.
HE IS FORMER CEO OF GOLDMAN SACHS, HE JUST LEFT 3 TO 4 YEARS AGO
AND THEY STAND TO BENEFIT FROM THE BAILOUT AS WELL
HE WAS THERE IN THE PRIME OF THIS DEBACLE.
HIS EXCUSE IS HE DI...
NO RESTRICTIONS ON HIS POWERS OR DECISION MAKING ABILITY
AND NO REPRESUSSIONS TO HIS ACTIONS
WHEN ASKED ABOUT ALTERNATIVE AND SAFER METHODS, HE (PAULSON) REPEATEDLY SAID "THAT CONSTRAINTS OR PENALTIES WOULD DISCOURAGE PARTICIPATION IN THIS VOLUNTARY PROGRAM."
WHAT---COMPANIES, THAT ARE IN TROUBLE, WILL NOT TAKE THE HAND OUT IF THEY MUST PAY IT BACK, OR MUST GIVE AN EQUITY POSITION IN THE COMPANY, NO STOCK FOR THIS MONEY, OUR MONEY..
IF THEY WILL NOT PARTICPATE IN THIS PROGRAM DUE TO RESTRICTIONS AND REGUALTIONS ON CONDUCT....I SAY LET THEM FAIL...GO AT IT ON YOUR OWN.......FREE MARKETS BAABY..YOU ASKED FOR IT AND HERE YOU GOT IT RIGHT IN THE TEETH...YOUR OWN KIND ATE YOU ALIVE, AND YOU WERE NOT EVEN FINISHED EATING UP THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASSS
NOT HINT AT A RETURN ONT HE INVESTMENT OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS EITHER.
HE KEPT REPEATING THAT IT NEEDED TO BE DONE NOW, RIGHT NOW, FIGURE OUT THE LEGISLATION LATER.
GARBAGE, HE WILL NOT IMPLEMENT THIS THING TO THE BENEFIT OF ALL.
HE IS FORMER CEO OF GOLDMAN SACHS, HE JUST LEFT 3 TO 4 YEARS AGO
AND THEY STAND TO BENEFIT FROM THE BAILOUT AS WELL
HE WAS THERE IN THE PRIME OF THIS DEBACLE.
HIS EXCUSE IS HE DID NOT DEAL WITH THE REGULATORY ASPECT.
HIS GOAL SI TO RESTORE LIQUIDITY SO PEOPLE CAN EXTEND MORE CREDIT.
NO MENTION FO PEOPLE KEEPING THEIR HOMES AS A PRIORITY, MAYBE A GOOD MESSAGE, BUT NOT A PRIORITY.
HE SAYS TAXPAY DOLALRS NEED TO PURCHASE WORTHLESS PAPER, AT COST OR PREMIUM, PAPER THAT NO ONE CAN TELL US IS TIED TO ANYTHING AND IF IT IS, NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IT IS TIED TO.
SUPPOSEDLY REAL ESTATE, BUT WHERE IT IS, WHO IS IN TROUBLE, WHO WILL $700 BILLION ACTUALLY HELP OTHER THAN THE BALANCE SHEETS OF THE CORPORATIONS, THERE IS NO DETAIL, NO SUGGESTION, NO HINT AT ANY INTENTIONS IN THIS DIRECTION
I SAY LET THEM FAIL THEN BUY THE MORTGAGES FOR .25c ON THE DOLLAR
LIKE A SMART BUSINESS DOES
SAVE US ABOUT $450 BILLION IN THE PROCESS.....
FREE MARKETS BABY
NO ONE BUYS DEBT AT COST
NO ONE
ASK ANY COLLECTION AGENCY
Do we want to give that much power to someone yet to be choose?
A bailout for the rich!
ISEE YOUR TACTICS PUNK
HOW MUCH DO THEY PAY YOU TO SPIT THIS GARBAGE
ANYONE WATCHING KNOWS WHO HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON THE SIDE OF WALL STREET
THE RNC
I WATCHED THE CONVENTION OF THE RNC
ALL BIG BIG BUSINESS MEN
THE DEMS HAD ALL I MEAN ALL REGULAR WORKING MIDDLE CLASS FOLKS
SPEAKING AT THEIR CONVENTION
I suppose you are foolish enough to think this administration isn't up to their necks in this debacle. Think again or better yet look up the facts.
A bailout for the rich!
MCCAIN POLICY ADVISOR TOP DOGG
NEXT IN LINE FOR PAULSONS JOB PEOPLE
THE REGULATION TERMINATOR
-GRAMM LEACH BAILEY ACT
THE COMMODITIES FUTURES MODERNIZATION ACT OF 2000
KNOW THE PLAYERS KNOW THEIR GAMES
GET THESE GUYS OUT OF THERE
ADN KEEP THEM FAR AWAY FOR A LONG LONG TIME
and guess what Phil Gramm the "Regulation Teminator"
is Mccain's top choice for Paulson's position.
A bailout for the rich!
A bailout for the rich!
A bailout for the rich!
THAT'S ALL I AM SAYING
I CANNOT GET A LOAN A GRANT OR NOTHING TO GET MINE UP OFF THE GROUND.
THEY CONDUCTED HORRIBLE IMMORAL BUSINESS PRACTICES MADE BILLION AS WE CONTINUED TO GET HIT WITH EARNINGS RE STATEMENTS
AND GOLDEN PARACHUTES
REMEMBER ENRON,
GOLDMANSACHS
LEHMAN HAS 2.5 BILLION FOR NEW YORK BIG BOY BONUSES AND THEY JUST DECLARE BANKRUPTCY.
WHO FILES BANKRUPTCY AND GETS A BONUS
MY GODDDDDDDD
A bailout for the rich!
A bailout for the rich!
I'm so confused I don't know what street I'm on anymore!
A bailout for the rich!
A bailout for the rich!
I'm so confused I don't know what street I'm on anymore!
How did this happen?
Much as I hate Bush he did try to warn us and so did McCain but they were ignored along with
Allen Greenspan’s Warning
The clear gravity of the situation pushed the legislation forward. Some might say the current mess couldn’t be foreseen, yet in 2005 Alan Greenspan told Congress how urgent it was for it to act in the clearest possible terms: If Fannie and Freddie “continue to grow, continue to have the low capital that they have, continue to engage in the dynamic hedging of their portfolios, which they need to do for interest rate risk aversion, they potentially create ever-growing potential systemic risk down the road,'’ he said. “We are placing the total financial system of the future at a substantial risk.'’
What happened next was extraordinary. For the first time in history, a serious Fannie and Freddie reform bill was passed by the Senate Banking Committee. The bill gave a regulator power to crack down, and would have required the companies to eliminate their investments in risky assets.
If that bill had become law, then the ...
How did this happen?
Much as I hate Bush he did try to warn us and so did McCain but they were ignored along with
Allen Greenspan’s Warning
The clear gravity of the situation pushed the legislation forward. Some might say the current mess couldn’t be foreseen, yet in 2005 Alan Greenspan told Congress how urgent it was for it to act in the clearest possible terms: If Fannie and Freddie “continue to grow, continue to have the low capital that they have, continue to engage in the dynamic hedging of their portfolios, which they need to do for interest rate risk aversion, they potentially create ever-growing potential systemic risk down the road,'’ he said. “We are placing the total financial system of the future at a substantial risk.'’
What happened next was extraordinary. For the first time in history, a serious Fannie and Freddie reform bill was passed by the Senate Banking Committee. The bill gave a regulator power to crack down, and would have required the companies to eliminate their investments in risky assets.
If that bill had become law, then the world today would be different. In 2005, 2006 and 2007, a blizzard of terrible mortgage paper fluttered out of the Fannie and Freddie clouds, burying many of our oldest and most venerable institutions. Without their checkbooks keeping the market liquid and buying up excess supply, the market would likely have not existed.
But the bill didn’t become law, for a simple reason: DEMOCRATS opposed it on a party-line vote in the committee, signaling that this would be a partisan issue. Republicans, tied in knots by the tight Democratic opposition, couldn’t even get the Senate to vote on the matter.
That such a reckless political stand could have been taken by the Democrats was obscene even then. Wallison wrote at the time: “It is a classic case of socializing the risk while privatizing the profit. The Democrats and the few Republicans who oppose portfolio limitations could not possibly do so if their constituents understood what they were doing.'’
Now that the collapse has occurred, the roadblock built by Senate DEMOCRATS in 2005 is unforgivable. Many who opposed the bill doubtlessly did so for honorable reasons. Fannie and Freddie provided mounds of materials defending their practices. Perhaps some found their propaganda convincing.
But we now know that many of the senators who protected Fannie and Freddie, including BARACK OBAMA, Hillary Clinton and Christopher Dodd, have received mind-boggling levels of financial support from them over the years.
Will “60 Minutes” do a Special on this?
Will TV investigage?
You know the answers…this mess goes back to the Clinton administration so expect zero coverage by the biased media. They are the spin-filters.
God bless the alternate “new media”. FOX
GO FIGURE.
A bailout for the rich!
I'm so confused I don't know what street I'm on anymore!
Undecided
THERE ARE STILL DEBT MARKETS TRADING RIGHT NOW THAT NOE ENTITY NOT EVEN THE SEC CAN LEGALLY POLICE
NO TRANSPARENCY AT ALL.
WHEN YOU LEVERAGE 100.OO TO GET A MILLION THOUSANDS OF TIMES OVER WITH IMPUNITY
NOW THE TAXPAYERS NEED TO PONY UP SO THEY CAN EXTEND MORE CREDIT ON THIS OVER DRAWN CREDIT CARD
HUMMNNN
DOESN'T SOUND FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE TO ME
None of the above