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Bakery Threw Out Employee's Severed Arm: Should they have to pay?

W_C June 10, 2009 20:51:56

A bakery is being sued for throwing out an employee's arm after it had been chopped off accidentally. The employee, Franns Rilles was being taken to the hospital after accidentally severing his arm off in a kneading machine accident. However, while on his way to the hospital, another bakery employee just discarded the severed arm. Rilles had been working ILLEGALLY at the bakery for 2 years, only earning $32 a day, and was never properly trained on how to use the kneading machine. Should the bakery have to pay?
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 Yes, the bakery should pay for Rilles accident, after throwing away his arm.
No. Rilles was working illegaly, the bakery is not at fault for his severed arm.
WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital?
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  • +5 wolfshadow June 10, 2009 22:45:22 (edited)
    wolfshadow

    Yes, the bakery should pay for Rilles accident, after throwing away his arm.

    Apparently they never taught people to NOT throw away severed limbs either. While he was working illegally at the bakery, the bakery was working him illegally therefore any argument that he isn't entitled to compensation by the bakery based on his status is moot. Just because the bakery hires illegals, they can't expect protection from work related injuries nor are they exempt from giving proper training to the employees. The bakery should also now be owned by the Federal Government since it should not be able to pay all the fines...

    OSHA
    INS
    LABOR

    just to name three...
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  • kittykatabcde June 29, 2009 19:25:33
    kittykatabcde

    WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital?

    what the crap? um, they really shouldnt have thrown his arm away, not cook! >O
  • pdshanny June 26, 2009 16:01:35
    pdshanny

    Yes, the bakery should pay for Rilles accident, after throwing away his arm.

    Justice does not depend on your legal status. If you think it does, then join with Iran, North Karea and the other countries that choose who receives justice and who doesn't.
  • xLacyx June 22, 2009 19:18:16
    xLacyx

    WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital?

    Wtf? I don't think I would even go NEAR a severed arm.
  • cy June 20, 2009 23:33:48
    cy

    Yes, the bakery should pay for Rilles accident, after throwing away his arm.

    he was working for them so yes
  • +1
    Billy Joe Bob June 18, 2009 03:23:55
    Billy Joe Bob

    WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital?

    pay.....pay .....PAY $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital? the lawyers will make "DOUGH" on this ...
  • +1
    Death Faerie June 12, 2009 02:08:47
    Death Faerie

    Yes, the bakery should pay for Rilles accident, after throwing away his arm.

    Of course they should pay! He may have been working there illegally but they hired him...besides, he's a human being and should be respected as such.
  • +1
    Essie June 11, 2009 18:54:59
    Essie

    Yes, the bakery should pay for Rilles accident, after throwing away his arm.

    Absolutely they should ahve to pay....was there some incriminating evidence on the arm??? How utterly disgusting...
  • +2
    cjj June 11, 2009 18:40:20
    cjj

    WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital?

    Didn't the EMS guys know to take it with? Jeez, seems like the response team was at real fault here. Look, losing an arm is a human issue not an immigration issue.
  • +1
    polyushkin_ June 11, 2009 18:18:05
    polyushkin_

    WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital?

    It is a pity this man. He worked illegally not because of a good life. It is necessary to institute criminal proceedings against owners of a bakery for a negligence
  • +1
    littlelee June 11, 2009 17:46:26
    littlelee

    WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital?

    that is so messed up
  • +1
    Racefish June 11, 2009 13:00:22
    Racefish

    Yes, the bakery should pay for Rilles accident, after throwing away his arm.

    Kind of a silly question. However, I suppose the court would require payment.
    What has working "illegally" got to do with anything and why was it illegal for him to be working there? It doesn't say where this took place either so you can only assume it was here.
  • +1
    Mejink June 11, 2009 07:30:40
    Mejink

    WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital?

    BUT they needed to keep the bakery sanitary. And his employment conditions don't matter. How the fuck do you stick your arm down a kneading machine. Besides, he'd worked there 2 years. He should know how to do shit by that time, don't ya think?
  • +1
    emmettfanggirl June 11, 2009 04:12:47
    emmettfanggirl

    WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital?

    ...not really sure how to reply to this one..o-o;
  • +1
    alegra::Anti-Choice:: June 11, 2009 02:09:24
    alegra::Anti-Choice::

    WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital?

    just like to say that $32 a day (or $448) every two weeks was more then what I was making at my job, I am legal, and I was working over 32 hours...$32 a day is nothing to laugh at, thats pretty decent actually.
  • +1
    1oct1 "Marko" June 11, 2009 02:09:07
    1oct1 "Marko"

    WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital?

    Those idiots hired a illegal? Yep they should have to pay. They also should get a pretty good fine from the government also.
  • +1
    Vital June 11, 2009 01:40:16
    Vital

    Yes, the bakery should pay for Rilles accident, after throwing away his arm.

    Besides throwing the guys arm away, they were employing illegal immigrants AND paying employees below minimum wage.
  • +1
    iguanamind June 11, 2009 00:59:31
    iguanamind

    Yes, the bakery should pay for Rilles accident, after throwing away his arm.

    yes
  • +1
    Cal June 11, 2009 00:29:12
    Cal

    WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital?

    Whoa! I guess he wasn't well liked on his job.
  • +3
    mike June 11, 2009 00:01:41
    mike

    WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital?

    What kind of callous dumbasses work at this place. Even out here in the sticks of Chino Valley, Arizona we have heard of reattachment surgery. Damn right they should pay!!!
  • +3
    Bill June 10, 2009 23:41:18
    Bill

    Yes, the bakery should pay for Rilles accident, after throwing away his arm.

    Not only yes but oh hell yes they should have to pay.
    They used the guy, they had to know his status, thats
    why they got him so cheap and not even bother to train
    the guy on machinery, he should own the bakery when
    he's done with them.
  • +3
    Bushit June 10, 2009 23:25:47
    Bushit

    No. Rilles was working illegaly, the bakery is not at fault for his severed arm.

    lol! That is what you get for working for a greedy Republican who utilizes illegal labor. Thanks for playing.
  • +1
    Texoma June 10, 2009 23:22:26
    Texoma

    No. Rilles was working illegaly, the bakery is not at fault for his severed arm.

    If it was in his contract that the designated employee was responsible to babysit his arm if it was severed, then he has a case. If not, then I would not hold him accountible.

    The exception would be if he tossed the arm into the garbage instead of the arm recycling bin.
  • +4
    Brosia June 10, 2009 23:18:48
    Brosia

    WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital?

    That is kind of fucked up. But the bakery absolutely pay, they knew he was working there illegally, they only paid him a pittance, and they failed to train him properly. They are at fault for this.
  • +5
    wolfshadow June 10, 2009 22:45:22 (edited)
    wolfshadow

    Yes, the bakery should pay for Rilles accident, after throwing away his arm.

    Apparently they never taught people to NOT throw away severed limbs either. While he was working illegally at the bakery, the bakery was working him illegally therefore any argument that he isn't entitled to compensation by the bakery based on his status is moot. Just because the bakery hires illegals, they can't expect protection from work related injuries nor are they exempt from giving proper training to the employees. The bakery should also now be owned by the Federal Government since it should not be able to pay all the fines...

    OSHA
    INS
    LABOR

    just to name three...
  • +3
    Thanos "In Darwin I trust" June 10, 2009 22:29:58
    Thanos "In Darwin I trust"

    No. Rilles was working illegaly, the bakery is not at fault for his severed arm.

    They shouldnt have to pay him but they should be punished for letting him work there illegaly
  • +1
    wolfshadow Thanos ... June 10, 2009 22:47:07
    wolfshadow
    Of course they should pay him... They hired him, paid him $32 a day do you think they thought he was legal? Just because you hire illegals doesn't mean you are protected from suit or that you don't have to train them.
  • +1
    Thanos ... wolfshadow June 11, 2009 01:23:52
    Thanos "In Darwin I trust"
    Thats like saying that someone who overdoses on heroin should be able to sue the drug dealer. He was breaking the law just as much as they were. He knew the risk. The point is, they had NO obligation to him and he knew it. They SHOULD be punished, but not for what happend to him but for hiring him in the first place.
  • wolfshadow Thanos ... June 11, 2009 01:55:35 (edited)
    wolfshadow
    A employer has every obligation. They had an obligation to train him and to ensure that he safely operated the equipment. They are also obligated to pay the minimum wage for hours worked. Your analogy of the drug dealer is dumb. That has nothing to do with wage and labor laws. They, like ALL employers are responsible for injuries that are work related. He was doing the job not skateboarding on the roof.
  • +1
    Thanos ... wolfshadow June 11, 2009 14:46:15
    Thanos "In Darwin I trust"
    My point is, they are BOTH in the wrong and need to be punished accordingly. I dont feel sorry for the guy at all. And you bringing up his pay is just stupid. He KNEW what he was getting paid. If he didnt want to do it he shouldnt have gotten that job.
  • +2
    Kevman June 10, 2009 21:35:11 (edited)
    Kevman

    WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital?

    Damn... and I thought that crunchiness was because my wife used
    chunky peanut butter in my PB&J; sam'ich!!
  • +3
    Hobbit June 10, 2009 21:28:16
    Hobbit

    Yes, the bakery should pay for Rilles accident, after throwing away his arm.

    And they should be closed down and fined for having an illegal employee in the first place. Trying to cover it up huh? Morons.
    accident throwing arm closed fined illegal employee cover huh morons
  • +3
    Cedar Creek Crony June 10, 2009 21:27:44
    Cedar Creek Crony

    Yes, the bakery should pay for Rilles accident, after throwing away his arm.

    They should pay an arm and a leg!
  • +1
    HeliAce June 10, 2009 21:18:04
    HeliAce

    WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital?

    Everybody is at fault, enough said.
  • +3
    NotWithoutAFight June 10, 2009 21:03:22
    NotWithoutAFight

    WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital?

    Who the hell took him to the hospital? The Keystone Ambulance Corps? Duh - you take it with you.

    And they could have dug it out of the trash.

    Karma sucks sometimes.
  • +1
    NotWith... NotWith... June 10, 2009 21:04:28
    NotWithoutAFight
    Sometimes - Stupidity should be a crime.
  • +5
    Simply Cara June 10, 2009 21:02:19
    Simply Cara

    WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital?

    Why didn't they take it with them to the hospital? They might have been able to reattach it.
  • +1
    wolfshadow Simply ... June 10, 2009 22:48:37
    wolfshadow
    Maybe the Ambulance company hires illegals too....

    ambulance company hires illegals
  • +3
    Spider20 June 10, 2009 21:01:25
    Spider20

    WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital?

    How do you just "throw away" somebody's severed arm? What were the bakery people, especially the manager, thinking?
  • +3
    SARAH PALIN FOR WASILLA DOG... June 10, 2009 20:58:44
    SARAH PALIN FOR WASILLA DOG CATCHER ~ 2012

    WTF? They threw away his severed arm on the way to the hospital?

    I hope he threw it away....I'd hate to find it in my baguette...
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